SMH社论：特朗普再次竞选总统，对美国和世界带来的危险

Mr.Right

特朗普确实问题多多。但他是唯一有可能不同于其它那些精致利己的政治官员。所以我支持

虽然对世界的确麻烦多和风险大些，没球办法

rb

说好的民主自由独立呢？这么骂懂王还有没有点民主意识了？如果人民选出来就要尊重民主的意志，坐地炮撒泼也阻挡不了人家上台啊，SMH真是脸都不要了。

hgaox

seawhale 发表于 2024-1-11 13:21
新冠爆发以后, 川普立即就要求发布了针对疫情高发地旅行禁令, 但是民主党包括纽约州州长库默和佩洛西站出 ...

【新冠爆发以后, 川普立即就要求发布了针对疫情高发地旅行禁令, 但是民主党包括纽约州州长库默和佩洛西站出来反对禁令, 还把这些和歧视挂钩.
从疫情爆发之后的3个月, 川普就已经着手鼓励疫苗公司开发疫苗了, 写这篇文章的人估计以为选民都像傻子一样好骗

当然了, 这论坛还真有傻子】

有专业的学术论文论证了川普对疫苗的态度

Donald Trump and vaccination: The effect of political identity, conspiracist ideation and presidential tweets on vaccine hesitancy

是两位昆士兰大学的学者 和一位英国大学的学者合著的

文章的简介第一句话就是

Donald Trump is the first U.S. President to be on the record as having anti-vaccination attitudes.

In both Study 1 (N = 518) and Study 2 (N = 316), Trump voters were significantly more concerned about vaccines than other Americans.

The United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have described vaccines as “our most effective and cost-saving tools for disease prevention” (CDC, 2011, p.7). At the same time, the current President of the United States has a history of making statements that support the widely-debunked myth that vaccines cause autism.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/sc ... i/S0022103119302628

你可以做川普的拥趸 这没有问题 但是不能毫无根据的乱讲吧？

否则你的帖子中的最后两个字不就是在说你自己吗？

夏虫语冰

哈，可是川普是美国少有的和平总统，任内无战争。这在美国两百多年只有16年不打仗的好战历史上，可不多见啊

艾泼斯坦的萝莉岛的200多人名单里，也没有他，简直政坛清流。毕竟奥巴马克林顿夫妇都榜上有名

hgaox

jacey 发表于 2024-1-11 15:49
这句有失公正啊！好歹特朗普给疫苗研发拨了大量的款。而且，拜登在任期间新冠死亡人数更多啊。

根据现 ...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/sc ... i/S0022103119302628

川普是有记录以来第一个反对疫苗的总统

有学术文章为证

Donald Trump is the first U.S. President to be on the record as having anti-vaccination attitudes. Given his enormous reach and influence, it is worthwhile examining the extent to which allegiance to Trump is associated with the public's perceptions of vaccine safety and efficacy. In both Study 1 (N = 518) and Study 2 (N = 316), Trump voters were significantly more concerned about vaccines than other Americans. This tendency was reduced to non-significance after controlling for conspiracist ideation (i.e., general willingness to believe conspiracy theories) and, to a lesser degree, political conservatism. In Study 2, participants were later exposed to real Trump tweets that either focused on his anti-vaccination views, or focused on golf (the control condition). Compared to when the same respondents were sampled a week earlier, there was a significant increase in vaccine concern, but only among Trump voters who were exposed to the anti-vaccination tweets. The effects were exclusively negative: there was no evidence that anti-vaccination Trump tweets polarized liberal voters into becoming more pro-vaccination. In line with the social identity model of leadership, Study 2 indicates that some leaders do not simply represent the attitudes and opinions of the group, but can also change group members' opinions.

hgaox

夏虫语冰 发表于 2024-1-11 19:27
哈，可是川普是美国少有的和平总统，任内无战争。这在美国两百多年只有16年不打仗的好战历史上，可不多见啊 ...

cathyqk

夏虫语冰 发表于 2024-1-11 19:27
哈，可是川普是美国少有的和平总统，任内无战争。这在美国两百多年只有16年不打仗的好战历史上，可不多见啊 ...

川普任期内美国军事行动没有停过。
轰炸叙利亚沙伊拉特：2017年
轰炸叙利亚大马士革和霍姆斯：2018年
轰炸青年党 (索马里)：2018年－
轰炸巴格达国际机场（突袭卡西姆·苏莱曼尼）：2020年

AFL123

violots 发表于 2024-1-11 15:19
搞不懂为什么美国人民喜欢选他

因为有许多的美国人民能亲身体验他的政策合理不合理，比如建墙，旅行禁令，开采石油，不大撒币等等。
不像论坛里的许多被媒体洗得跟红卫兵似的

明月星光

SMH表演什么叫“主流媒体”睁眼说瞎话。

seawhale

AFL123 发表于 2024-1-11 23:38
因为有许多的美国人民能亲身体验他的政策合理不合理，比如建墙，旅行禁令，开采石油，不大撒币等等。
不 ...

建墙那个事情是最明显的，民主党的选民真切的表现了什么叫“我真的有一头牛”。一直以来都是边境州饱受非法移民的困扰给边境州的治安和财政系统都造成了巨大的压力，但是不在边境州的蓝州却一直都在鼓励非法移民涌入美国。反转就是德州和佛州州长用大巴车把非法移民送去更适合他们的地方例如纽约和波士顿，这对比边境州非法移民的总量还不到冰山一角，没想到这就把这些蓝色屎坑真的到了“我真的有一头牛”的时刻，一下就把它们左派虚伪的面纱接下来了

hgaox

seawhale 发表于 2024-1-12 07:51
建墙那个事情是最明显的，民主党的选民真切的表现了什么叫“我真的有一头牛”。一直以来都是边境州饱受非 ...

wiki竟然也有Trump Wall这个词条

哈哈

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall#

至少我知道美国很多州 非法移民可以领取驾照 可以上学

wst9

tyler_kwok 发表于 2024-1-11 08:31
我去，这啥记者写的文章，一边倒把董王喷得体无完肤，屁股歪的太明显了。 ...

+1

12oz

seawhale 发表于 2024-1-12 07:51
建墙那个事情是最明显的，民主党的选民真切的表现了什么叫“我真的有一头牛”。一直以来都是边境州饱受非 ...

左派们最擅长：整人，慷他人之慨，对别人讲道德，对自己讲法律底线

你说的非常对，总结下来就是 ”虚伪“ 两个字

XIE

哈哈????，特朗普的所有可能的危险 都被能干的囧败灯提前实现了。

jacey

hgaox 发表于 2024-1-11 20:27
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103119302628

川普是有记录以来第一个反 ...

我也讨厌川普。但是我更讨厌谎言，误导性的陈述片面事实。报道中那句有失公正。

hgaox

jacey 发表于 2024-1-12 17:16
我也讨厌川普。但是我更讨厌谎言，误导性的陈述片面事实。报道中那句有失公正。 ...

这不是报道 这是学者写就的学术文章

12oz

hgaox 发表于 2024-1-12 17:32
这不是报道 这是学者写就的学术文章

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唐纳德·特朗普总统是反疫苗的吗？
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截至我最后更新的信息（2023年4月），唐纳德·特朗普总统并不被视为反疫苗人士。实际上，他在COVID-19大流行期间鼓励了疫苗的快速开发，特别是通过“行动曲速”计划。特朗普本人也公开接种了COVID-19疫苗，并在不同场合鼓励人们接种疫苗。然而，他在疫苗政策和疫苗接种率提升方面的立场可能受到了他的政治立场和目标的影响。总体而言，特朗普总统的公开言论和行动显示他支持COVID-19疫苗的使用。

在COVID-19大流行期间，美国政府在唐纳德·特朗普总统领导下启动了名为“行动曲速”（Operation Warp Speed）的项目。该项目旨在加速COVID-19疫苗、治疗方法和诊断工具的开发与分发。政府为此投入了大量资金，以促进疫苗的研发，其中包括向多个疫苗制造商提供资金支持，以加快疫苗的研发、测试和生产过程。这些努力最终促成了几种有效疫苗的快速开发和批准使用。

--- 充分说明那个“学者”在造假，如果真是学术文章，那就是学术造假

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 18:00
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唐纳德·特朗普总统是反疫苗的吗？
ChatGPT

别人是有名有姓有地址的严肃学者 你随便用网络的ai就想比拼严肃学者的专业工作

呵呵

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 18:00
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唐纳德·特朗普总统是反疫苗的吗？
ChatGPT

Despite his involvement in spurring their development via Operation Warp Speed, Trump largely downplayed vaccines during his final months in office, and both Trump and First Lady Melania Trump received the vaccine in private before Joe Biden took office as the new president in January 2021.[71][72][73]

你去修改wiki吧

川普都不愿意做示范 公开接种疫苗 对比其他总统 你如何解读？

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CO ... n_the_United_States

很多时候AI提供的信息会有偏差 要注意

12oz

hgaox 发表于 2024-1-12 18:57
Despite his involvement in spurring their development via Operation Warp Speed, Trump largely down ...

不愿公开打疫苗就是反疫苗？就凭这个就得这个判断？请使用常理和逻辑。同一个wiki:

The U.S. government began the campaign under the presidency of Donald Trump with Operation Warp Speed, a public–private partnership to expedite the development and manufacturing of COVID-19 vaccines. Joe Biden became the new President of the United States on January 20, 2021. Biden had an immediate goal of administering 100 million vaccine doses within his first hundred days in office, and signed an executive order which increased supplies for vaccination.[13][14][15] This goal was met on March 19, 2021.[16] On March 25, 2021, he announced he would increase the goal to 200 million within his first 100 days in office.[17] This goal was reached on April 21, 2021.[18]

还有这个wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed

Operation Warp Speed (OWS) was a public–private partnership initiated by the United States government to facilitate and accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of COVID-19 vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics.[1][2] The first news report of Operation Warp Speed was on April 29, 2020,[3][4][5] and the program was officially announced on May 15, 2020.[1] It was headed by Moncef Slaoui from May 2020 to January 2021 and by David A. Kessler from January to February 2021.[6] At the end of February 2021, Operation Warp Speed was transferred into the responsibilities of the White House COVID-19 Response Team.[7]

The program promoted mass production of multiple vaccines, and different types of vaccine technologies, based on preliminary evidence, allowing for faster distribution if clinical trials confirm one of the vaccines is safe and effective.[citation needed] The plan anticipated that some of these vaccines will not prove safe or effective, making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially leading to the availability of a viable vaccine several months earlier than typical timelines.[8]

12oz

hgaox 发表于 2024-1-12 18:34
别人是有名有姓有地址的严肃学者 你随便用网络的ai就想比拼严肃学者的专业工作

呵呵 ...

欺世盗名的“学者”可多了，只看论据和事实

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 20:22
不愿公开打疫苗就是反疫苗？就凭这个就得这个判断？请使用常理和逻辑。同一个wiki:

The U.S. government ...

【不愿公开打疫苗就是反疫苗？就凭这个就得这个判断？请使用常理和逻辑。同一个wiki:

The U.S. government began the campaign under the presidency of Donald Trump with Operation Warp Speed, a public–private partnership to expedite the development and manufacturing of COVID-19 vaccines. Joe Biden became the new President of the United States on January 20, 2021. Biden had an immediate goal of administering 100 million vaccine doses within his first hundred days in office, and signed an executive order which increased supplies for vaccination.[13][14][15] This goal was met on March 19, 2021.[16] On March 25, 2021, he announced he would increase the goal to 200 million within his first 100 days in office.[17] This goal was reached on April 21, 2021.[18]】

总统是行政最高级别民选官员 具有典型的表率作用 如果真心推荐疫苗 自然需要公开注射疫苗带头表率

其他总统奥巴马 布什 克林顿都是公开注射疫苗的 媒体现场报道

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 20:22
不愿公开打疫苗就是反疫苗？就凭这个就得这个判断？请使用常理和逻辑。同一个wiki:

The U.S. government ...

Trump largely downplayed vaccines during his final months in office,

如何解读呢？

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 20:27
欺世盗名的“学者”可多了，只看论据和事实

你不认同这学者的观点 不等于他们的文章是欺世盗名的 对吧？

现在已知的事实是川普作为现任总统 私下注射疫苗

其他卸任总统公开注射疫苗接受媒体采访 拜登也是公开注射疫苗

这个事实你不能否认吧？

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 20:27
欺世盗名的“学者”可多了，只看论据和事实

In recent years, President Trump has composed over two dozen Twitter messages that are anti-vaccination in nature, frequently linking the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccinations to diagnoses of autism (Brown, 2018).

现任总统的发推是定期被国家档案馆收藏的 Trump法发过的二十多条实质反疫苗的推 而且还包含早就被辟谣的自闭症与疫苗的谣言

这是事实吧？需要给你罗列川普作为总统时的发推吗？

信息来源同上 都是同一篇学术文章

12oz

hgaox 发表于 2024-1-12 21:18
Trump largely downplayed vaccines during his final months in office,

如何解读呢？

有啥好解读的？

making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially leading to the availability of a viable vaccine several months earlier than typical timelines

算算这救了多少人了，这是真正的事实

所以说左派就会挑毛病整人，成事寥寥

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 21:39
有啥好解读的？

making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially l ...

川普发了二十多条反疫苗的推 这是事实吗？

12oz

hgaox 发表于 2024-1-12 21:40
川普发了二十多条反疫苗的推 这是事实吗？

making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially leading to the availability of a viable vaccine several months earlier than typical timelines

-- 救了成千上万的人是事实吗？

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 21:45
making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially leading to the av ...

是疫苗的功劳吧

hgaox

12oz 发表于 2024-1-12 21:45
making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially leading to the av ...

The program promoted mass production of multiple vaccines, and different types of vaccine technologies, based on preliminary evidence, allowing for faster distribution if clinical trials confirm one of the vaccines is safe and effective.[citation needed] The plan anticipated that some of these vaccines will not prove safe or effective, making the program more costly than typical vaccine development, but potentially leading to the availability of a viable vaccine several months earlier than typical timelines.[8]


拯救人命的是疫苗