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[其他信息] 为了父母来澳坐移民监也是操碎了心 [复制链接]

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lan_how 发表于 2022-5-13 20:44
是的,我要花点时间,沟通下。

一定要好好沟通,争取让父母过来团聚
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强扭的瓜不甜。就算来了也是不情不愿。

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这个要看老人自身情况了,我18年前就张罗着申请排队移民,我爸妈每次来不到一个月就要喊着回国,恨不得立刻飞回去(他们大学读的都是俄语,英语就停留在读得出banana 这种程度)来玩可以,移民是绝对不愿意,现在老了绝对不来了,说中国民俗里上了70岁就不出远门了。
[b]任凭风吹浪打,胜似闲庭信步
我志随风潇洒,世人又奈何得了[/b]

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多生几个娃,他们就过来了

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可能父母未老 又很健康,又不考虑以后
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玉堇 发表于 2022-5-13 17:43
我只是推己及人,我在澳洲生活大半辈子了,如果我退休后我的孩子想我搬去一个非英语国家,我也不会很愿意 ...

请问来澳洲多少年了啊?
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lan_how 发表于 2022-5-13 20:04
感觉有点可惜,但是具体可惜在哪里又说不上来

????????
可惜什么?
你到底懂不懂什么是PR 什么是rrv???

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grace181 发表于 2022-5-13 20:57
这个要看老人自身情况了,我18年前就张罗着申请排队移民,我爸妈每次来不到一个月就要喊着回国,恨不得立刻 ...

是的, 有点固执
不喜勿喷,口下积德

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yl002 发表于 2022-5-13 22:40
????????
可惜什么?
你到底懂不懂什么是PR 什么是rrv???  ...

不太懂,你给我科普下
不喜勿喷,口下积德

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觉得是坐监就别勉强,就是苦了楼主了

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这种情况,就算勉强来了,以后的苦日子也够你受的
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父母不想过来,你为什么要强迫他们来澳洲,你父母强迫你回中国你觉得如何。
父母不稀罕,你可惜个啥,他们才是利益最相关者。

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如果真的把移民当成“监”那还是别来的好,对你对他们都好。。。。。

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yl002 发表于 2022-5-13 22:40
????????
可惜什么?
你到底懂不懂什么是PR 什么是rrv???  ...

同样求科普

2021年度勋章获得者

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随他们好了。别费力不讨好。

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他们不愿意来就算了。PR不会过期的,23年7月之后 等他们哪天想来,海外申请RRV,解释一下可以批的,最少也给他们3个月RRV入境
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别强迫,你尽到了你的责任就好。成年人应该为自己的决定负责。

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如果是独生子女的话, 父母和你都想好了以后他们养老怎么办吗? 周围的朋友有由于国内独居母亲患癌症, 自己必须两头住两头跑,工作三天两头的请假辞职再找工, 病情一反复就又得回国陪伴,折腾了5,6年,最后直到老人去世。 想好这些, 自然就有决定了。 父母现在身体健康当然在自己熟悉的环境里最好,一旦生病,你天高路远的该如何应对呢? 好不容易排队有了免费的移民, 还是考虑清楚再说, 以后不要后悔。

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ylia4349 发表于 2022-5-14 14:54
他们不愿意来就算了。PR不会过期的,23年7月之后 等他们哪天想来,海外申请RRV,解释一下可以批的,最少也 ...

如今只能这样了,因为肯定是7月之前住不满了
不喜勿喷,口下积德

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zl5431 发表于 2022-5-14 14:54
别强迫,你尽到了你的责任就好。成年人应该为自己的决定负责。

我也在反省我自己, 到底该不该,怎么办?
不喜勿喷,口下积德

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lilygong 发表于 2022-5-14 14:55
如果是独生子女的话, 父母和你都想好了以后他们养老怎么办吗? 周围的朋友有由于国内独居母亲患癌症, 自 ...

我也很同意,现在的情况就是一,如果他们生病我就打包自己回去伺候着,二,威逼利诱,叫他们来
不喜勿喷,口下积德
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顺其自然吧。。有些长辈们的想法是很难改变的。。








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楼主妈妈厉害。天天健身的老太太来了会适应很快吧

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lan_how 发表于 2022-5-14 16:25
我也很同意,现在的情况就是一,如果他们生病我就打包自己回去伺候着,二,威逼利诱,叫他们来 ...

时间换空间,不用太沮丧 情况会变的,反正现在由着他们 之后有情况了再申请RRV

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ylia4349 发表于 2022-5-14 17:41
时间换空间,不用太沮丧 情况会变的,反正现在由着他们 之后有情况了再申请RRV ...

好的, 现在只能这样了,到时候我就辛苦点吧
不喜勿喷,口下积德

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缓缓 发表于 2022-5-14 17:18
楼主妈妈厉害。天天健身的老太太来了会适应很快吧

老太太只喜欢有氧,不喜欢交际
不喜勿喷,口下积德
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静好如初 发表于 2022-5-14 17:12
顺其自然吧。。有些长辈们的想法是很难改变的。。

是的, 我心里是很不开心的, 但是表面还是顺从了

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退役斑竹 2012年度奖章获得者 2009年度奖章获得者

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lan_how 发表于 2022-5-14 19:08
老太太只喜欢有氧,不喜欢交际

不爱交际就更简单了。这里更合适

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我网上看了下,是这个

Resident Return Visas (RRV)
The Purpose Of A RRV Is To Facilitate The Re-Entry Into Australia Of Non-Citizen Permanent Residents; And To Ensure That Only Those People Who Have A Genuine Commitment To Residing In Australia, Or Who Are Contributing To Australia’s Well-Being, Retain The Right To Return To Australia And Remain Permanently.
The applicant must be:

a permanent resident holding a valid permanent visa
a former permanent resident whose last permanent visa was not cancelled, or
a former Australian citizen who has lost or renounced his or her Australian citizenship.
For a five- year RRV, applicants must have spent two years out of the last five years in Australia as a permanent resident or have substantial and beneficial ties to Australia. Applicants who have been absent from Australia for more than five years must also have compelling reasons for their absence of more than five years.

A three-month RRV may be granted to persons who don’t yet qualify for a five-year RRV but have strong reasons to go overseas, such as the severe illness of a family member. Applicants must have spent at least one day in Australia in the last five years as a permanent resident, and have compelling and compassionate reasons for departing Australia.

Spouses and family members of an RRV holder who are or have been permanent residents may be granted RRVs on the basis that their family head holds an RRV. An RRV granted on this basis will have the same validity period as the family head’s, whether the family member applies for an RRV at the same time as the family head or later.

If the family member meets one of the other criteria for an RRV in their own right, they will be granted an RRV with the full five-year validity.

What Is A Resident Return Visa (RRV)?
a Resident Return Visa (RRV) facilitates the re-entry into Australia of non-citizen permanent residents. The RRV ensures that only those people who have a genuine commitment to residing in Australia or who are contributing to Australia’s well being, retain the right to return to Australia and remain permanently.

RRVs are usually issued with a validity of 5 years or 3 months. An RRV allows Australian permanent residents to travel from, and return to Australia as often as they wish within the validity of the visa, whilst maintaining their status as permanent residents.

Do I Need A Resident Return Visa (RRV)?
Everybody, except Australian citizens and New Zealand citizens travelling on their New Zealand passport, must have a visa to travel to Australia. If you are a permanent resident of Australia and intend to travel away from Australia, you should ensure that you have a visa, which is valid for re-entry, on your return to Australia. This visa can be your original permanent resident visa, or a Resident Return Visa, as long as it authorises travel to Australia on the date you return. The visa can be in your current passport or in an expired passport that you also carry with you while you travel.

Permanent Residents should obtain their RRVs before leaving Australia, to avoid travel delays and the need to obtain an RRV through an Australian diplomatic office overseas.

What Are The Visa Requirements For A Resident Return Visa (RRV)?
To apply for a Resident Return Visa (RRV) you must be:

a permanent resident holding a valid permanent visa,
a former permanent resident whose last permanent visa was not cancelled, or
a former Australian citizen who has lost or renounced their Australian citizenship.
For a five-year RRV:

you must be lawfully present in Australia for a total of at least 2 years in the 5 years immediately before lodging the application for the visa;
you must have substantial and beneficial business, cultural, employment or personal ties to Australia; and
if you have been absent from Australia for more than five years, you must also have compelling reasons for your absence.
If you do not meet these criteria, but have to leave Australia for compassionate and compelling reasons, you can apply for a 3 month RRV.

If you are unable to meet the RRV requirements in your own right, but you are a member of the family unit of a person who holds an RRV, you may be granted an RRV with the same validity period as the family head’s.

Can I Continue To Use My Permanent Residence Visa When My Passport Expires?
When your passport with a valid Australia permanent residence visa expires, the visa does not become invalid. You may choose to have your existing visa reprinted into your new passport (processing fee applies), or you may merely carry your old passport (with valid visa) and your new passport together, whenever travelling in or out of Australia.

What Do I Do Once I Migrate To Australia And The Re-Entry Component Of My Permanent Residence Visa Expires?
Once in Australia, permanent residents only need to obtain a subsequent resident return visa if and when they wish to leave Australia. Permanent resident visas provide for an indefinite stay in Australia

My Passport Will Expire Before My Visa Is Due To Expire?
This is not a problem you may travel with both your new passport and your old passport with the visa attached. Alternatively you may approach any DIBP office in the world and get your visa re-evidenced in your new passport. There may be a charge for this.

Emergencies Overseas
A permanent resident overseas who is unable to prove their status, eg if his or her passport has been stolen and they have obtained a new one, may apply for a temporary RRV if they have an urgent and compelling reason to return.

People who return to Australia on temporary RRVs must apply at a DIBP office to regain their permanent status within three months of their arrival. People who do not will become unlawful non-citizens, subject to detention and removal from Australia.

Applying For RRVs
Any DIBP office will accept an application for an RRV. In Australia, RRV applicants do not need to fill in a form if they:

attend an office in person, present a valid passport and pay the application charge, or
mail a request for an RRV with their passport and payment of the application charge.
Such applications are usually decided within 24 hours, and applicants then make a brief visit to a DIBP office to have the visa label placed in their passports.

If more than one person is travelling on the same passport, only one application and one charge is needed. Family members with separate passports must apply and pay separately.

RRV
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lan_how 发表于 2022-5-14 19:12
我网上看了下,是这个

Resident Return Visas (RRV)

谢谢。看下来楼主父母危险了,拿了pr就呆几天,除了疫情还有啥有力的“证明”?现在澳洲这情况还是不要轻易和他们弄这个,分分钟就给你取消了。

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