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[其他讨论] 如果租客因为得了新冠,或者失业,而无法付房租,land lord insurance 是否可以理赔呢? [复制链接]

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edwin17 发表于 2020-3-22 10:38
你自己去打电话把所有的保险公司问一边吧。

跟你这种在CentreLink排队的烂人浪费时间,简直在侮辱我的智 ...


拿证据说话
你有证据,拿出来讨论讨论,看看哪个合理?
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heavenzhu 发表于 2020-3-22 09:43
不懂没问题,似懂非懂的就半瓶子醋在那边还乱说就是你这种人。好好去看看wording不会吗? ...

如果你还没有和保险公司打过交道,那么我恭喜你,说明你的房子一切完美没有任何事故。我的投资房每个都有过,同样的事情结果各不相同,赔偿的也是拖拉近一年中间各种game 耗时耗精力陪一圈人玩,两三年前陪偿的,同类事情现在就各种推委,业主没精力就只有放弃自认倒霉不是吗?保险公司不是慈善家,只可能拿大多数人的保险费用补尝级少案例。如果有30% 房东去要求赔偿,结果会怎样?wording 再美好也是镜花水月看得见摸不着,当然你可以去花钱打官司,可是远水解不了近渴,Cash flow is king ... 浪费点时间倒完了半瓶子醋哈哈哈
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ARACT 发表于 2020-3-22 10:20
澳航下岗2w 员工,如果交不起房租,算不算industrial unrest?  从世界卫生组织宣布- 世界大流行开始,是不 ...

目前所设想的租客付不起账单,其赔付流程都是正常流程。另外Industrial Unrest不是你对目前情况所认定的意思。

By industrial unrest is meant conflict between employers and workers in industries. The industrial labour display their protests in the form of strikes, gheraos, go slow tactics, demonstrations and so on, whereas the employers show their might by retrenchment, dismissals, lockouts etc.
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逆鳞龍 发表于 2020-3-22 10:57
目前所设想的租客付不起账单,其赔付流程都是正常流程。另外Industrial Unrest不是你对目前情况所认定的 ...

谢谢分享,
如果这个不算的话。 Coles Landlord Insurance disclosure statement 上恐怕就没有定义
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谢谢分享,
如果这个不算的话。 Coles Landlord Insurance disclosure statement 上恐怕就没有定义 ...


不保的几个方面明显都指向是社会混乱,产生骚动暴乱。就单纯租客不付租金行为,而房东又有齐备手续来看,房东保险是要赔付的。房东保险的作用也正是在此
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有不同看法很正常,即使明白的心平气和的讨论,还是要请大家注意控制情绪,没必要上升到人身攻击的程度上面。

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Terri 的免责条款,

General exclusions
General exclusions applying to this policy
You are not covered under any section of this policy for
damage, loss, cost or legal liability that is caused by, arises
from or involves:
1. 7 Revolution, hostilities, war or other acts of foreign
enemy, war like activity (whether war is declared or
not), military coup; or
7 Any looting or rioting following these incidents.
2. 7 Radioactivity or the use, existence or escape of
nuclear fuel, nuclear material or waste; or
7 Action of nuclear fission including detonation of any
nuclear device or nuclear weapon; or
7 Any action taken by a public authority to prevent,
limit or remedy the actual or threatened release of
any radioactive or nuclear materials; or
7 Any looting or rioting following an incident
described above.
3. Any intentional act committed by you, your family or any
person acting with your express or implied consent.
This policy also excludes any loss, destruction, damage,
death, injury, illness, liability, cost or expense of any nature
directly or indirectly caused by, contributed to by, resulting
from or arising out of or in connection with any action taken
in controlling, preventing, suppressing, retaliating against, or
responding to or in any way relating to 1, 2, or 3 above.
Additional exclusions applying to all sections of
this policy
a) We will not pay a claim under any section of this policy
when the claim is caused by or arises directly out of:
✗ A bushfire, storm, flood or tsunami that occurs within
72 hours of the start of this insurance policy.
However we will cover these incidents (to the extent
cover is provided by this policy) if your policy began
on the same day:
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• You bought the property; or
• Another policy covering the property expired. If
this is the case, we pay up to the sum insured
covered under the expired policy.
✗ Actions or movements of the sea;
✗ Water seeping through a wall or floor;
✗ Water entering the building through an opening made
for the purpose of alterations, additions, renovations
or repair;
✗ Erosion, vibration, subsidence, landslip, landslide,
mudslide, collapse, shrinkage or any other earth
movement, but we will cover landslide or subsidence
that occurs within 72 hours of, and directly because
of one of the following insured events:
• Storm;
• Flood;
• Earthquake or tsunami;
• Explosion.
✗ Poor housekeeping by your tenants or a member of
your tenant’s family or your tenant’s guests (poor
housekeeping includes costs associated with the
tenants untidy, unclean or unhygienic living habits);
✗ Rust, wear, tear, mould or mildew, oxidation, change
of colour, the action of light, atmospheric conditions
or vibration unless caused by an insured event;
✗ Damage caused by insects or vermin (such as
termites, rats, mice or wildlife) but we will pay for
resultant damage to the property caused by an
insured event listed under Section 2 and Section 3;
✗ Scratching, denting or chipping;
✗ The actions of cleaning;
✗ Damage from heat, smoke, or soot when the
building or contents have not caught fire;
✗ Tree roots;
✗ Inherent defects, faulty workmanship, structural
defects, faulty design or any gradual process;
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✗ You, or someone with your knowledge or permission,
committing or trying to commit an unlawful or criminal
offence, such as assault or malicious damage;
✗ Your possession, supply, manufacture or consumption
of any illegal substances or illegal drugs;
✗ You not obeying any commonwealth, state, territory
or local government law, including laws relating to:
• installing smoke alarms;
• pool fencing;
• failing to install a balcony railing or balustrade
when required;
• dangerous goods and liquids;
• firearms;
• control and safekeeping of dangerous or
restricted breeds of dogs, including not obeying
any legal requirement to restrain a dog in public
or keep it fenced in.
✗ An act by the tenant, where consent for the act was
given to them by you;
✗ Any loss or damage arising out of or connected with
keys being provided for the purpose of property
inspections;
✗ The tenant utilising the property for trade,
manufacturing or childcare with your knowledge and/
or consent;
✗ Mechanical or electrical breakdown or electrical power
surge, other than the burning out of electric motors;
✗ Damage to swimming pools or similar structures
caused by hydrostatic pressure;
✗ The removal or weakening of supports or foundations
for the purpose of alterations, additions, renovations
or repair;
✗ Settling, shrinkage or expansion in buildings,
foundations, walls or pavements;
✗ Consequential loss, such as having to hire a washing
machine because one provided by you for the
tenants use, was stolen;
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✗ Expropriation, lawful seizure, resumption,
confiscation, nationalisation or requisition of any
property by any lawfully constituted authority or
persons; or
✗ Destruction of, or damage to the building by any
government, public or local authority.
b) We will not pay a claim under any section of this policy
from the point in time that:
✗ You take over private management of the property; or
✗ You, your family or your non-paying guests take up
residence in the property; or
✗ The property is vacant, is not advertised for sale and:
• No effort is made to prepare the property for a
new tenant; or
• No effort is made to replace the tenant.
This effort must be within a reasonable period of:
• The tenant’s departure from the property; or
• You or your property manager becoming aware of
their departure,
whichever occurs later; or
✗ Your property is vacant and advertised for sale.
However we will provide the following cover under
your policy:
• ‘Section 1: Loss of rent’, providing you can
demonstrate a continuing reasonable effort was
made to obtain a new tenant (such as advertising
for a tenant), whilst you were simultaneously
marketing the property for sale; and
• ‘Section 2: Contents’ and ‘Section 4: Liability to
others’ while the property is advertised for sale
and vacant for a maximum period of 90 days.
After the property has been vacant for 90 days,
we will not pay a claim under any section of the
policy unless you have obtained our prior written
agreement for cover to be provided.
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c) We will not cover any loss, damage or liability:
✗ that occurred prior to the commencement of the
initial period of insurance; or
✗ arising from any existing circumstance that may lead
to a claim that you or your property manager were
aware of on or before the commencement of the
initial period of insurance.
d) There is no cover for loss of or damage to water in
swimming pools, spas or water tanks.
e) Despite any provision of the policy, we will not cover and
will not make any payments or provide any services or
benefit to you or to any other party to the extent that
such cover, payment, service or benefit would
contravene any applicable trade or economic sanctions,
law or regulation.

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heavenzhu 发表于 2020-3-22 11:06
不好意思,作为保险行业的从业者,我真的在耻笑你的无知。如果你无法claim,那我只能说你一不懂怎么看wor ...

省了premium 谁给保险行业从业者发工资?你太年轻太naive 火气太大哦……大家只是讨论而以,成年人做自己的选择,信保险公司不如信自己的cash flow, 能赔就是个bonus, 不能赔也不要哭爹喊娘,相信100%能赔如同信病毒在澳不会传播,也是有那么丁点可能的

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同问

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好奇怎么所谓的多方发言都被屏蔽
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打电话咨询保险公司啊

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chingwu 发表于 2020-3-22 11:41
好奇怎么所谓的多方发言都被屏蔽

因为她骂人

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这事问了都不一定有用,换个员工说法可能都不一样,以最后理赔为准。
在这说一定怎么样的,恐怕都是没经验的。

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ahnet 发表于 2020-3-22 08:42
电话确定了EBM和Terri Scheer都可以赔

Terri最多陪几周?

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formatc 发表于 2020-3-22 08:33
请问是哪家

EBM

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好像就赔几周。你如果发现好的保险公司告诉我一声

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房东保险理赔的,购买的时候确认过了

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如果地主险赔付的话,估计要亏惨了。面太大了。
我的房客通知我他失业了。我心头一紧,劝他赶紧找个访客分租,但这世道也难找到人

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ahnet 发表于 2020-3-22 08:42
电话确定了EBM和Terri Scheer都可以赔

EBM 网站关于新冠的FAQ里面说了如果租客得新冠不工作是不能赔偿的。hardship也要court 批准

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我估计保险公司是不会赔的,一旦大规模理赔发生,保险公司肯定会甩锅的,那么多的免责条款,总有一条适合你。
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跟保险公司联系过,如果买家不是直接得到新冠而不付租金保险是可以赔偿的。

在保险的条款里面有写明什么情况下不赔偿(包括海啸山火之类的)。但是没有一条说因为全球性病毒导致金融危机然后失业所以不赔(估计以后保险公司会加上这一条)

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担心保费上升

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ahnet 发表于 2020-3-22 08:42
电话确定了EBM和Terri Scheer都可以赔

请问Terri Scheer你电话确认因为新冠失业可以赔偿?

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isawang2000 发表于 2020-3-22 14:27
Terri最多陪几周?

20周
买了很多年
一直没用过
希望不要用到
但新冠是不是陪我不清楚哦

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Chimpanzee 发表于 2020-3-24 21:42
20周
买了很多年
一直没用过

会有这么多吗?记得有人说过6周的样子

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isawang2000 发表于 2020-3-24 21:43
会有这么多吗?记得有人说过6周的样子

也可能记错了
记得刚买的时候14
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