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[行情讨论] 重磅:维多利亚政府在一年内调高土地税近12倍! [复制链接]

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商业地产这么搞,居民住的house也提高地税吗
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这个标题翻译有错啊。
Land tax涨12倍仅仅是讲文章一开头Brian O'Neill那个例子。
而且说的是过去12个月涨了那么多。估计之前是一直低估,现在只不过是把valuation回归到价值。
税率一直还是那么多,只不过之前很多valuation都是understated而已。

这样的文章标题 有哗众取宠的嫌疑啊。

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沧海一粟a 发表于 2017-6-12 12:54
商业地产这么搞,居民住的house也提高地税吗

都是一样的。

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维洲有多少是富人? 新州工党永远上不了台。
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astina 发表于 2017-6-12 12:53
这种转帖的不注明出处,是对原作者和译者的不尊重

另外告诉楼主,新闻版不欢迎转帖 ...

明显胡喷放屁的文章,哪个版也不能留吧

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astina 发表于 2017-6-12 12:53
这种转帖的不注明出处,是对原作者和译者的不尊重

另外告诉楼主,新闻版不欢迎转帖 ...

http://www.afr.com/personal-fina ... ths-20170607-gwm9pp
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另外我也觉得不可能,但是新州已经对海外人士开始征收额外土地税了(本来0.5%增加4倍到2%,并且没有免额)

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icac 发表于 2017-6-12 14:03
另外我也觉得不可能,但是新州已经对海外人士开始征收额外土地税了(本来0.5%增加4倍到2%,并且没有免额) ...

海外人士没有选举权,本地的property owner 有, 若只是商业地产打击面小有可能,但如果是所有的residential 的 投资房,打击面就广了,政客自己也受不了影响。
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Coolbananas 发表于 2017-6-12 14:08
海外人士没有选举权,本地的property owner 有, 若只是商业地产打击面小有可能,但如果是所有的resident ...


自住的毕竟不用交l多少and tax,澳洲有两成人士拥有超过2套以上物业就不错了。但是首次置业以及想换房的人士可能会支持这个政策。

最重要的是墨尔本明显apartment过多但是house不足。这样做可以把空置业apartment价值提升,同时对开发商继续盖公寓打一强心针。一箭双雕

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icac 发表于 2017-6-12 14:00
http://www.afr.com/personal-finance/disastrous-land-tax-soars-1200-per-cent-in-12-months-20170607- ...

译者呢?这不是抄别人的劳动吗?
于无声处听惊雷
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astina 发表于 2017-6-12 14:56
译者呢?这不是抄别人的劳动吗?

没说是谁翻译的…只有公众号名字已经写上去了

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讨厌这种标题党

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假新闻

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Jun 8 2017 at 11:00 PM
Updated Jun 8 2017 at 11:00 PM

  License article

"Disastrous" land tax soars 1200 per cent in 12 months




Massive land tax rises are forcing investors to sell their properties. Jim Rice

by  Duncan Hughes
A 73-year-old grandfather may have to sell his retirement property nest egg after a near-1200 per cent increase in land tax in 12 months, or a rise from $5300 to more than $67,900.

Brian O'Neill's astonishing tax bill rise is being repeated across Victoria where recent state government revaluation of land is forcing many property-owning paper millionaires to sell off their assets. O'Neill, a father of eight and grandfather of 23, bought and renovated the two-shop, seven-office complex 40 years ago. The property is located in Martin Street, Brighton, about 12 kilometres south-east of Melbourne.

Investors across Victoria are being forced to consider the sale of houses or small commercial properties that were often bought cheaply decades ago and have rapidly escalated in value during the current property boom. This could be a bellweather for property owners in other states where prices are also skyrocketing.

Daren McDonald, a partner with property advisory group ShineWing Australia, says: "It is a disaster that will have significant impact. It is going to create cash flow problems, which means many might have to sell."
  
Rorey James, head of Melbourne strip retail investments with CBRE, a global property group, says some investors are attempting to avoid the tax rises by investing in strata title that allow individual ownership of part of a property, combined with shared ownership in the remainder, such as foyers and gardens, through an owners' corporation or body corporate. That means the tax is spread across several owners.

"It's premature to predict outcomes and we are weighing up what the tax increase means," says James. "But we are already seeing some investors planning to sell their holdings rather than pay the tax, which likely means an increase in stock in the second half of the year."

Look out for other changes

Investors in other states also need to be aware of tax changes, such as reinstatement of stamp duties and changes to self-managed superannuation fund (SMSF) rules, which will impact returns.

In Queensland and Tasmania, for example, first home buyers' grants will revert back to $15,000 from $20,000 for new properties.
  
Investors considering off-the-plan apartments are losing generous tax incentives and depreciation allowances and facing tougher borrowing conditions, rent falls in some cities and increased competition for tenants as supply rises.

In Victoria, off-the-plan stamp duty concession will no longer be available for investors. That means an investor in a $2 million off-the-plan apartment in Melbourne might have to pay another $110,000. Some concessions have been switched to regional Victorian investors.

But there is some good news for  SMSF property investors.

SMSF trustees have been given a reprieve from a rule that would have curtailed their ability to borrow to buy property and potentially resulted in forced sales of houses, apartments and business premises.
  
Treasury officials this week  told super industry participants they will undertake further consultation on a measure that would force self-managed fund members to include the value of a loan when calculating their total super balance.

SMSF tweak

Peter Hogan, head of technical services for the SMSF Association, says he is "reasonably confident" the federal government will have the amendments approved by parliament by the end of June. Hogan says no decision has been made but Treasury is sympathetic, Opposition parties are unlikely to block the amendments and there are enough sitting days remaining to get it through, he adds.

"The government has acknowledged the issues raised and the potential for unintended consequences," he says.
  
The federal government's speedy response contrasts with that of the Victorian state government, which has failed to explain to investors like O'Neill the steep increase in land tax. Property investors are angry that they are being penalised by the state government because of increases in their property values.

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"What's the point of keeping my investment," says O'Neill who also has to pay 30 per cent tax on rental income, maintenance and administrative costs. "No-one gave me anything. I've had to work for everything. "But we have a government that wants to grab your money and run."

Tax officials responded to his complaints about the increase and size of the tax by recommending he pays the full amount and then lodges an application for a review.
  
Flawed process

Property specialists claim the state government land tax grab is hitting existing and new property investors, particularly business people and dentists, doctors and lawyers  who have purchased their surgeries and chambers.

The size of the tax bite has been hidden in previous years because Victoria revalues land every two years, which means this year's tax assessments are based on 2016 council valuations.

Land tax on properties in Melbourne's central business district is increasing by up to 400 per cent, or more than 26 times the state average increase of 15.8 per cent for commercial valuations in 2016.

Tom Tuxworth, senior director of CBRE, adds: "Most owners are objecting to the new assessments and believe that the valuation process is flawed with councils taking a sweeping approach to these valuations and not factoring in such things as heritage restrictions on sites"

Big property funds, such as DEXUS, Charter Hall and GPT, own multiple commercial properties in different states and can spread the rising costs across their portfolios.

But smaller private investors in commercial properties  who cannot diversify are feeling the impact.

Justin Lawrence, a partner and property specialist with  legal firm Henderson & Ball, warns it is also catching investors who buy a property unaware of the increased tax liability, particularly those who are stretched financially.  "This is a huge trap," Lawrence says.
  
Many investors could be forced to raise rents to cover rising costs, which might make it tougher to find tenants.

ShineWing's McDonald warns many landlords will not be able to pass on the extra cost to their tenants.

"Property investors need to review the net return on their properties and decide whether it is worth retaining in its current form or has a better use (such as converting a house into apartments)," he says.

The Victorian state government is planning to increase the tax from every two years to every year.


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仔细看原文,原来是过去被极度低估价值的一些商业物产,最近被政府重新估价,导致了地税的攀升。

LZ贴的中文译文,题目和第一段都是无中生有的!
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工党总是出台各种政策

惩罚上班交税的人

去讨好不上班的垃圾

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misleading topic

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浮出好多中介

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really?

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我也觉得文章标题 有哗众取宠的嫌疑啊。根本不是这么回事儿
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这类帖子竟然没有大胸和司令的评论,不正常啊

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原版已经没有了。。。

这个新闻是有问题吧???


自问自答:原版在 估计这个网站是注册后才可以看此类文章!!
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如果一个屁放的太响,那很可能是有人把一个气球捏爆了。

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fuyao 发表于 2017-6-12 21:46
原版已经没有了。。。

这个新闻是有问题吧???

Afr原版有啊

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fuyao + 1 谢谢!好像是注册用户才可以看.

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不用注册,内容出来以后浏览器按停止就有了
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Griffon 发表于 2017-6-12 21:38
这类帖子竟然没有大胸和司令的评论,不正常啊

我们空军司令好像投降买了房,现在成多军了。
我们大胸叔(大舒胸)最近在准备考试和谈恋爱。

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Griffon + 4 你太有才了

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fantom 发表于 2017-6-12 21:24
浮出好多中介

呵呵,可能不止中介,还有一些杠杆比较高的。
这文章指出了外部因素变化会引起Cashflow的紧张,一两套投资房有些问题一般人都顶得住,再多就头疼。

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https://extranet.sro.vic.gov.au/SRO/calcs.nsf/landtax.xsp

自己去算算不就知道了。 1M 的 3000, 3M的2w5  呵呵,涨再多都喂给政府了   

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Land tax rates rise steeply once land values surpass $1.8 million. Sites valued under $250,000 do not attract tax and, unlike local council rates, land tax is not capped.

Melbourne, Port Phillip, Yarra, Stonnington, Bayside, Whitehorse, Manningham and Boroondara saw rises between 14 and 25 per cent.

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