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[澳洲] 悉尼周末去哪玩——海岸线徒步:Cronulla beach [复制链接]

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-12 10:25
陪孩子玩是开心啊,不过我们从来没有给他找女朋友

那是啊,男孩女孩有很大的不同。
哈哈。
我发现养男孩跟女孩区别很大。
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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-12 08:30
是呢,澳洲的大海就是多,而且风景特别好。

认同
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koch 发表于 2016-7-12 10:32
半岛的另一边也很漂亮,可以走环线的其实,就不用走回头路了

走环线太长了,我们的时间不够。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-12 10:53
那是啊,男孩女孩有很大的不同。
哈哈。
我发现养男孩跟女孩区别很大。

当然啦,女孩男孩从小喜欢的东西就不一样
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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Pannytam 发表于 2016-7-12 11:04
认同 呢

所以有时间一定要多出去走走看看,不要浪费了这么美丽的风光。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-12 15:08
当然啦,女孩男孩从小喜欢的东西就不一样

我女儿一定很讨厌我。 妈妈总想让她做这个做那个, 呵呵。
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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-12 15:11
我女儿一定很讨厌我。 妈妈总想让她做这个做那个, 呵呵。

你总想让她做什么?如果是她喜欢的,那自然不会讨厌啊。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-12 15:27
你总想让她做什么?如果是她喜欢的,那自然不会讨厌啊。

你有没有看到钢琴老师的文章。
培养孩子特长的,不是天赋,不是兴趣。。而是家长的努力。。(paopaobing(52))

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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-12 17:43
你有没有看到钢琴老师的文章。
培养孩子特长的,不是天赋,不是兴趣。。而是家长的努力。。(paopaobing( ...

钢琴老师的文章?没看到哦,我又懒了,没有到处去逛
这句话我不认同,我觉得培养孩子特长的,除了孩子的天赋和兴趣,还要靠家长去发现和引导,也需要家长和孩子的共同努力。倘若孩子对这件事情完全没有天赋和兴趣,而只是家长一心情愿地去努力,这对孩子和家长都是一种折磨。而且,会扼杀掉孩子真正的天赋。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-12 19:32
钢琴老师的文章?没看到哦,我又懒了,没有到处去逛
这句话我不认同,我觉得培养孩子特长的,除了孩子 ...

要靠家长引导啊!
你看责任还在家长。
不过,一个孩子最后兴趣在哪里,家长是管不了的。一定要让孩子自己决定。并且努力。

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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-13 08:56
要靠家长引导啊!
你看责任还在家长。
不过,一个孩子最后兴趣在哪里,家长是管不了的。一定要让孩子自己 ...

对呀,引导很重要,家长的责任很重要。如果孩子的兴趣在音乐在舞蹈,家长非要孩子去考奥数比赛体育,那就是压抑了孩子的天赋,最后赔了夫人又折兵。所以要留意孩子对哪方面有兴趣,然后上相对应的兴趣班。而不是看别人孩子学什么,自己就让孩子学什么。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。
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关于男女女差异及教育。
慢慢读读。

In this section
The weaker sex


AT FIRST glance the patriarchy appears to be thriving. More than 90% of presidents and prime ministers are male, as are nearly all big corporate bosses. Men dominate finance, technology, films, sports, music and even stand-up comedy. In much of the world they still enjoy social and legal privileges simply because they have a Y chromosome. So it might seem odd to worry about the plight of men.

Yet there is plenty of cause for concern. Men cluster at the bottom as well as the top. They are far more likely than women to be jailed, estranged from their children, or to kill themselves. They earn fewer university degrees than women. Boys in the developed world are 50% more likely to flunk basic maths, reading and science entirely.

One group in particular is suffering (see article). Poorly educated men in rich countries have had difficulty coping with the enormous changes in the labour market and the home over the past half-century. As technology and trade have devalued brawn, less-educated men have struggled to find a role in the workplace. Women, on the other hand, are surging into expanding sectors such as health care and education, helped by their superior skills. As education has become more important, boys have also fallen behind girls in school (except at the very top). Men who lose jobs in manufacturing often never work again. And men without work find it hard to attract a permanent mate. The result, for low-skilled men, is a poisonous combination of no job, no family and no prospects.

From nuclear families to fissile ones
Those on the political left tend to focus on economics. Shrinking job opportunities for men, they say, are entrenching poverty and destroying families. In America pay for men with only a high-school certificate fell by 21% in real terms between 1979 and 2013; for women with similar qualifications it rose by 3%. Around a fifth of working-age American men with only a high-school diploma have no job.

Those on the right worry about the collapse of the family. The vast majority of women would prefer to have a partner who does his bit both financially and domestically. But they would rather do without one than team up with a layabout, which may be all that is on offer: American men without jobs spend only half as much time on housework and caring for others as do women in the same situation, and much more time watching television.

Hence the unravelling of working-class families. The two-parent family, still the norm among the elite, is vanishing among the poor. In rich countries the proportion of births outside marriage has trebled since 1980, to 33%. In some areas where traditional manufacturing has collapsed, it has reached 70% or more. Children raised in broken homes learn less at school, are more likely to drop out and earn less later on than children from intact ones. They are also not very good at forming stable families of their own.

These two sides often talk past each other. But their explanations are not contradictory: both economics and social change are to blame, and the two causes reinforce each other. Moreover, these problems are likely to get worse. Technology will disrupt more industries, creating benefits for society but rendering workers who fail to update their skills redundant. The OECD, a think-tank, predicts that the absolute number of single-parent households will continue to rise in nearly all rich countries. Boys who grow up without fathers are more likely to have trouble forming lasting relationships, creating a cycle of male dysfunction.

Tinker, tailor, soldier, hairdresser
What can be done? Part of the solution lies in a change in cultural attitudes. Over the past generation, middle-class men have learned that they need to help with child care, and have changed their behaviour. Working-class men need to catch up. Women have learned that they can be surgeons and physicists without losing their femininity. Men need to understand that traditional manual jobs are not coming back, and that they can be nurses or hairdressers without losing their masculinity.

Policymakers also need to lend a hand, because foolish laws are making the problem worse. America reduces the supply of marriageable men by locking up millions of young males for non-violent offences and then making it hard for them to find work when they get out (in Georgia, for example, felons are barred from feeding pigs, fighting fires or working in funeral homes). A number of rich countries discourage poor people from marrying or cohabiting by cutting their benefits if they do.

Even more important than scrapping foolish policies is retooling the educational system, which was designed in an age when most men worked with their muscles. Politicians need to recognise that boys’ underachievement is a serious problem, and set about fixing it. Some sensible policies that are good for everybody are particularly good for boys. Early-childhood education provides boys with more structure and a better chance of developing verbal and social skills. Countries with successful vocational systems such as Germany have done a better job than Anglo-Saxon countries of motivating non-academic boys and guiding them into jobs, but policymakers need to reinvent vocational education for an age when trainees are more likely to get jobs in hospitals than factories.

More generally, schools need to become more boy-friendly. They should recognise that boys like to rush around more than girls do: it’s better to give them lots of organised sports and energy-eating games than to dose them with Ritalin or tell them off for fidgeting. They need to provide more male role models: employing more male teachers in primary schools will both supply boys with a male to whom they can relate and demonstrate that men can be teachers as well as firefighters.

The growing equality of the sexes is one of the biggest achievements of the post-war era: people have greater opportunities than ever before to achieve their ambitions regardless of their gender. But some men have failed to cope with this new world. It is time to give them a hand.

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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-13 13:55
关于男女女差异及教育。
慢慢读读。

这么长的英文。。。。。我英文不行啊,有中文不?
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-13 14:08
这么长的英文。。。。。我英文不行啊,有中文不?

文章很新啊。 貌似要翻译会很累的。 呵呵。
不过写的挺不错。 描述了这个世界自二战后,男性虽然还在主导地位。但是一半男性失去了教育的优势,劳力工作的优势,失业又不肯做家务。社会家庭生活极度不平衡。最后,文章希望能把更多男性引入教育系统中,给低教育的男性更多的工作机会。为他们树立新的家庭生活模式,及其他。。

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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-13 14:35
文章很新啊。 貌似要翻译会很累的。 呵呵。
不过写的挺不错。 描述了这个世界自二战后,男性虽然还在主导 ...

成年的男人如何教育我就不管了,我就只管孩子怎么教育
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-13 14:41
成年的男人如何教育我就不管了,我就只管孩子怎么教育

其实文章还有一个思路,我觉得。
就是受过高等教育,工作好,达到中产的男性数量很少。
而一般女性都可以做到。
所以。。呵呵, 英国现在有女首相啦!~~
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水之灵 发表于 2016-7-12 08:11
海岸线景色很美

我就住在cronulla, 早晨沿着海边走走锻炼,很美的!

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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-13 15:04
其实文章还有一个思路,我觉得。
就是受过高等教育,工作好,达到中产的男性数量很少。
而一般女性都可 ...

这个说的是英国还是西方国家?中国是这样的吗?
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-12 10:29
一定要懂得生活才行啊,否则多浪费生命

谢谢Kevin 妈妈,把cronulla拍得这么美!

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kevin妈妈 发表于 2016-7-13 15:38
这个说的是英国还是西方国家?中国是这样的吗?


这是伦敦经济学人2015年的一篇文章。 当然是指全球的。
文章题目是
The weaker sex
也就是说男性世风日下。。

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jacky7777 发表于 2016-7-13 15:39
谢谢Kevin 妈妈,把cronulla拍得这么美!

不用谢我哈,是cronulla本来就这么美。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。
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alyssa 发表于 2016-7-13 15:46
这是伦敦经济学人2015年的一篇文章。 当然是指全球的。
文章题目是
The weaker sex

男性世风日下:o 惨了,男人要努力要加油了,帮他们打气
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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起司neko 发表于 2016-7-11 15:20
那边也挺美的 就是很少华人去印度人也少 不解为甚么


Google Cronulla riots, you will find out why

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SUORINA 发表于 2016-7-13 22:51
Google Cronulla riots, you will find out why

  我也往那想了一下,但是当年是中东人挑衅后来打起来的。没再多想。。反正那里鬼佬多,还算友好。其他地方的人数的过来。

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不是可以洗鞋吗?看来是路是太烂了

看来下雨后至少要等一周才能进山呀

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Shire那边,属于传统的白澳区。就跟Central Coast一样,所以华人比较少。

现在貌似在Janani附近开始华人也多了
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Bigman 发表于 2016-7-14 08:45
不是可以洗鞋吗?看来是路是太烂了

看来下雨后至少要等一周才能进山呀

是路给水淹了啊,不仅仅是路烂这么简单
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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Bigman 发表于 2016-7-14 08:47
Shire那边,属于传统的白澳区。就跟Central Coast一样,所以华人比较少。

现在貌似在Janani附近开始华人也 ...

估计是传统的白澳区,华人就不太愿意去那边居住,许多华人还是喜欢选华人区住,主要是方便。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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景色真美

发表于 2016-7-14 13:12 |显示全部楼层
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qingtian 发表于 2016-7-14 12:10
景色真美

澳洲的海景都很美,有时间多出去走走看看。
先付出,才会得到,不论是工作,爱情,家庭,还是友谊。

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