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白雲山民

原帖由 ZKM2010204 于 2012-1-3 16:52 发表

How about the wite/pink insulation staff above the ceiling---﹣﹣應該不是，有疑問可發個圖給專業人士，看看人家願不願報价／報多高的价就知道是不是了，http://www.ceilingsuckers.com.au/contact.html
請看第九／十樓：http://www.woodworkforums.com/f7 ... eplace-batts-66742/
There certainly is asbestos roof insulation. It's loose fill - so no panic if you have batts. Note however that most loose fill is NOT asbestos - it's rockwool, shredded newspaper or less commonly one of a few other materials including fibreglass.

How to identify it? Assuming you're not absolutely sure what the loose fill is (product / brand name or the actual material) then you'll need someone who knows what they're doing.

DO NOT remove some yourself. Get a licensed asbestos removalist to come and identify it for you. You will have to pay for this even if it's not asbestos (insurance etc costs these guys a fortune so don't expect any of their time to be free - got to make $ to pay all the overheads) but it's money very well spent in my opinion.

Ask how much you will be chaged before you get them to come to your home. Get several quotes if it seems to high.

If the removalist tells you that it is asbestos then get them to put a sample in a sealed bag that you get analysed. The analysis should cost around $70 if you take it to the lab. I suggest using a 35mm film canister (the plastic bit the film comes in) and putting that in a snap lock sandwich bag. Then put that bag into another sealed bag (first rule of asbestos disposal - always double bag it). A decent lab should dispose of the sample for you and not give it back since it is a dangerous material (and you don't want it back anyway).

Only reason for you getting the analysis is to make sure they're telling the truth and not simply trying to get some $ out of you for removal. Actual removal of the asbestos will be $$$ so make sure it really is asbestos before going ahead.

You'd be amazed at just how common asbestos is in Australia. Everything from roof tiles to electrical cables to heater gaskets has been made with it in the past. Even bakealite (spelling?) plastic was often "fibre" (asbestos fibre) reinforced as was the tar wrapping on underground pipelines and even concrete. Several thousand products contained it - even some of the old ice chests. And of course there's always "fibro" - that's an asbestos and cement mixture.
第十二樓：
Unfortunately you can't tell by just looking. But in Melbourne it is highly unlikely to be asbestos. There was only one major installer using absestos loose fill and for the most part he worked in the ACT and region and did some on the NSW south coast. He imported his stuff from South Africa over about 10 years in the 70s and 80s.

Testing is the only sure way to know. Most asbestos in the uses described by Smurf are not dangerous so long as they remain undisturbed ie: the fibres are retained within the cementitious or other material they are bound up with. If you cut, drill, sand or otherwise create dust then it becomes extermely dangerous stiff.

As the loose fill insulation was pure asbestos fibres it is highly dangerous at all times - so $75 or so to get test is worth it. As Smurf said though arrange it yourself, but take the usual precautions with masks etc and double bagging.

I never enter a roof space without a mask and mostly wear good protective clothing that I remove and wash afterwards. Roofs are full of dust of various types and glass fibres and dust generally are not good for human airways.

Plenty of web info on asbestos - some of the best on insulation is on the ACT site as it had the most houses done with loose fill.

See:http://www.asbestos.act.gov.au/

and the Vic govt site is at:

http://hnb.dhs.vic.gov.au/dsonline/d...os_in_the_home

I am pretty sure the small vinly tiles in the toilet is "Shi Main",﹣﹣﹣-----請看：http://inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/asbestoslookB.htm

then the cement sheet around the bath and shower could be "Shi mian" in b ...

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[ 本帖最后由 白雲山民 于 2012-1-3 17:33 编辑 ]

shangpin

原帖由 ZKM2010204 于 2012-1-3 16:52 发表
How about the wite/pink insulation staff above the ceiling
I am pretty sure the small vinly tiles in the toilet is "Shi Main", then the cement sheet around the bath and shower could be "Shi mian" in b ...

天花上的是隔热棉, 和BUNNINGS卖的隔热棉是一样的.我对照过了.

  其余房间,洗手间 ,厨房,都没有.只是石膏板和水泥板.


这房子在近10年内装修过的,天花上有更换过的梁.

shangpin

原帖由 ZKM2010204 于 2012-1-3 15:30 发表
I have to shout at you: stop your work immediately.
Your house is 1950s building full of Asbestoes ---"Shi mian". stop, stop, stop !!!

房子是1963年建的.康嫂的文件显示.

shangpin

原帖由 lqq1025 于 2012-1-3 11:48 发表
不明白为什么板与板之间要5mm 的缝？ 到时不是要补灰吗？

那是伸缩缝.

rcspeed

石棉和保温棉不是一样，好像不会用石棉来做保温层的吧

zcwhy

旧房子如果有石棉一般是用在什么地方？

huniii

请教lz，石膏板堵洞腻子抹多了，干了后很厚怎么弄平啊

shangpin

1月3日
  
  工时:  3人 8小时
  
   项目: 石膏板安装. 拆厨房.

[ 本帖最后由 shangpin 于 2012-1-3 21:33 编辑 ]

shangpin

原帖由 huniii 于 2012-1-3 21:16 发表
请教lz，石膏板堵洞腻子抹多了，干了后很厚怎么弄平啊

打磨.

如果多,用电动打磨机.

kongtiao

原帖由 shangpin 于 2012-1-3 21:16 发表
12月3日
  
  工时:  3人 8小时
  
   项目: 石膏板安装. 拆厨房.

楼主累晕了，应当是2012年1月3日，呵呵

shangpin

前几天是上天花, 今天是下地:

   厨房拆除后,冷热水管要截流 ,去BUNNINGS 买了材料,就钻地牢了:

shangpin

原帖由 kongtiao 于 2012-1-3 21:26 发表

楼主累晕了，应当是2012年1月3日，呵呵

哈哈,饭后打盹....

shangpin

地底黑秋秋的,  唯一的好处: 清凉


  先用木板垫好,要准备2-3块木板,做移动用.

  然后准备一把扫把 , 先把陈年蜘蛛网给扫了.

  然后,向着前方5米的地方爬行:

shangpin

冷热水管都截住了, 测试了20分钟,没有漏水, 撤退

FOR

顶顶级DIY

shangpin

今天去买了支电笔 ,不用刨电线皮,就能知道是否带电, 给力!!

shangpin

买了个切铜管的刀,  国内卖25块,这里卖7刀 ,还算合理.

  把旧的铜管都切下来 , 备用.

yan52033

mark(paopaobing(79))

shangpin

新加的马桶的供水, 做好了,用原来浴缸的冷水进水管改的:

shangpin

这个拆不出来, 磨两个平口, 用扳手拆.搞定.

shangpin

澳洲铜水管的连接方式, 有几种: 焊接 ,做喇叭口连接, 用铜环的连接.

  其中,用铜环受力变型, 以达到连接水管的方式, 我在国内已经使用了10几年.

第一次使用的时候, 和工人一起研究了一套使用方法,  一套与众不同的方法,

10几年来, 没有出现过问题.

所以, 在澳洲, 我还是选择了这种配件.

虽然10几年前动过手, 今天再次自己动手, 做了3个连接, 都是一次PASS. 检测无漏水.

kieren

原帖由 魅影妖瞳 于 2011-12-23 10:17 发表
http://www.bookabin.com.au/stati ... nlq0CFWdLpgodGHdrnA

租垃圾箱的网站，输入邮编就可以了

好像不便宜哦，12立方的箱子一个星期要840刀呢，还不包括concuil permit fee

shangpin

原帖由 kieren 于 2012-1-3 22:39 发表



好像不便宜哦，12立方的箱子一个星期要840刀呢，还不包括concuil permit fee

我查是AUD $510 (incl GST).

kieren

原帖由 shangpin 于 2012-1-3 22:53 发表


我查是AUD $510 (incl GST).

看来还是跟区有关系的，我查的是悉尼

yesli168

楼主忙了半个月了吧，花费上一万了吗？

rb

lz下地上房还是应该有个给力点的头灯，并注意防虫防蜘蛛

ouyanglimi

原帖由 shangpin 于 2011-12-17 20:17 发表
买了个破房, 终于可以重披战袍, 自己动手装修.

  房子 :  3房改4房 ,墙面,地面,天花 重做, 洗手间,厨房重新装修 ,门全换.室外的暂时先不做, 先搞好室内.

  工具:  简单的家庭工具, 边做边买, 缺啥补啥.

  人员: ...

俺也奇怪你怎么有空往新房子跑啊，原来在拾房子，厉害！佩服得五体投地!
你大儿子和你真像，他们肯定为有你这样的爸爸骄傲的。以后向你们夫妻俩取经如何教育孩子！

shangpin

原帖由 yesli168 于 2012-1-4 00:46 发表
楼主忙了半个月了吧，花费上一万了吗？

买工具2000, 材料4000左右.

seaview

原帖由 shangpin 于 2012-1-3 22:21 发表
澳洲铜水管的连接方式, 有几种: 焊接 ,做喇叭口连接, 用铜环的连接.

  其中,用铜环受力变型, 以达到连接水管的方式, 我在国内已经使用了10几年.

第一次使用的时候, 和工人一起研究了一套使用方法,  一套与众不 ...

讨教一下楼主，用过那个和铜环搭配在一起的白色塑料环吗？

白雲山民

ＬＺ請問那電筆從那買的？多少刀？