关于建筑行业的疑惑～

芝麻绿豆

对了，DA嘛意思？

好歹算同行吧，怎么隔着几公里就听不你们说得话。

注意回答上页最后一个问题。白条打上先。

tld128

DA=development application，相当于国内的施工报建图？

芝麻绿豆

澳，那DA = Building Permit

老猫晒太阳

原帖由 芝麻绿豆 于 2010-8-5 21:55 发表
澳，那DA = Building Permit

DA approval = building permit

tld128

DA之后是CC或CD

芝麻绿豆

这下明白了。万能的足迹啊，熬夜的大虾们，感概啊。。。

tld128

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov. ... entControlPlans.asp

这是sydney CBD范围council的DCP，里面包括了很多细则，general来说包括set-back，height control等

老猫晒太阳

原帖由 芝麻绿豆 于 2010-8-5 21:58 发表
这下明白了。万能的足迹啊，熬夜的大虾们，感概啊。。。

我家LG还没回家呢。 (paopaobing(58))

芝麻绿豆

原帖由 tld128 于 2010-8-5 21:56 发表
DA之后是CC或CD

还没完

芝麻绿豆

原帖由 老猫晒太阳 于 2010-8-5 21:58 发表

我家LG还没回家呢。 (paopaobing(58))

安慰

tld128

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov. ... hhardtDCP/PartB.pdf

这个是leichhardt地区的DCP。你简单看一下就大概知道什么是DCP了

老猫晒太阳

原帖由 芝麻绿豆 于 2010-8-5 22:00 发表


还没完

DA approval以后就没council的事情了，但是就是建好后，必须是DA 报给council的样子，否则又要请planner了，这边的planner真想个扯皮的律师。。。。

tld128

The DA is required so Council can assess how much impact the proposed changes will have on the environment, neighbourhood and other properties. Issues such as pollution, shadowing, traffic and privacy are taken into account.

DAs are lodged by the property owner or architect, town planner, engineer, builder or other person acting on the owner’s behalf.

When considering a DA, Council assesses whether the requested development fits with the regulations and guidelines for the area. Council can refuse, grant consent, grant consent with conditions or grant a ‘Deferred Commencement’ consent (meaning more information needs to be supplied before a final consent will be given).

If your DA is approved, Council is agreeing that the plans you have made are satisfactory. A Construction Certificate is still needed to begin building.

tld128

After a development application is approved, a Construction Certificate is needed before building actually begins. A Construction Certificate is an approval that。

council的website上写的很清楚，在获得CC之后才能施工

不过CC可以由PAC发出：
A Construction Certificate can be issued by Council or a private Accredited Certifier. If issued by a private Accredited Certifier, a copy of the certificate, associated plans and specifications must be forwarded to Council within two days after the date of determination.

[ 本帖最后由 tld128 于 2010-8-5 22:09 编辑 ]

老猫晒太阳

是，但是CC是不需要图纸了。

芝麻绿豆

谢谢。这个很想Rescode。

也许社会发展到一定程度就是这样，在一定的限制下，大家都自己立法，立规。想想这玩意创造多少就业机会啊。每个州都有无数的人来做这些事，然后是教育的，商业的，行业的要跟要求相配套。

这是自由还是浪费？

tld128

开工后需要PCA的介入，或者QS（quantity surveyor）
Once you have development consent and have then obtained a Construction Certificate, you need to appoint a Principal Certifying Authority (PCA) before starting work. A PCA is either Council or a private Accredited Certifier who oversees the construction or subdivision process. Council must be told who has been appointed PCA at least two days before building starts.

老猫晒太阳

DCP是urban design很重要的一部分啊，urban design的实施就是倚靠DCP.

芝麻绿豆

这样说DA = Town planning Permit
CC = Building Permit

CC不需要图纸吗？

在维州，Town planning 有town planning drawing + report
Building Permit 有 working drawing + engneering drawing + energy report ....

MINIBOAT

原帖由 tld128 于 2010-8-5 21:54 发表
DA=development application，相当于国内的施工报建图？

咳咳。。。应该是国内的初设报建。
离开太久了，很多对应名词还真一下想不起来了。。。

老猫晒太阳

小房子CC要的图纸，详细一点的DA图都可以用，是不需要很详细的节点的，跟传统意义的CC还是有差距。

老猫晒太阳

原帖由 MINIBOAT 于 2010-8-5 22:17 发表

咳咳。。。应该是国内的初设报建。
离开太久了，很多对应名词还真一下想不起来了。。。

嘿嘿。。。。。。他还把CC叫结构图呢。

tld128

我印象中是需要：
A Construction Certificate is an approval that:

Makes sure that the detailed construction plans and specifications comply with the Building Code of Australia (BCA) and any other relevant Australian standard.
Certifies that the detailed construction plans and specifications are consistent with the Development Consent.
Certifies that the relevant development consent conditions have been complied with.
Certifies that all necessary contributions and fees have been paid.

tld128

CD是结构图，construction document

MINIBOAT

原帖由 tld128 于 2010-8-5 22:20 发表
CD是结构图，construction document

咳咳，哎，看来大家都走的太久了。。。这好像叫施工图把

tld128

我以前旧公司，CD大部分是交给别的公司做，我做了一年半，才做过一份CD document。

老猫晒太阳

原帖由 MINIBOAT 于 2010-8-5 22:23 发表


咳咳，哎，看来大家都走的太久了。。。这好像叫施工图把

咔咔，是啊。就是叫施工图。。。。。。。。。。。。我已经提醒他很多次了。

tld128

呵呵，是啊

老猫晒太阳

原帖由 MINIBOAT 于 2010-8-5 22:23 发表


咳咳，哎，看来大家都走的太久了。。。这好像叫施工图把

嘿嘿，CC我就要请教miniboat了。
我觉得在这里做CC的人才厉害。。。。。。

tld128

DA是不是应该叫扩初？