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Salala

xingbu 发表于 2014-1-17 12:26
Fairwork Act 的National Employeemnt Standards里对carers leave有明确的规定，用于employee's taken ti ...

我搜索了一下fairwork的网页，没有找到你说的Carer's certificate，能不能给个链接？最近在学习有关方面内容，希望了解得透彻些，谢谢！

personal leave和carer's leave是一起每年10天，超过了就只能是unpaid carer's leave,  2 days per occasion。不知道你说的长一点时间的carer's leave是指的什么？

henda

老实说，如果一个员工在诺大的公司里能收到 official warning， 基本可以归类到以下几点：

（1）真的犯下了很大的错误，而且事先已经有人再三提醒和警告的情况下。
（2）小虾米，此人可有可无，无人问津
（3）有人要你离开，而且此人和你上司或高管关系不错

是时候想想后路了

Salala

关于怎么请假有效，要什么证据，fairwork是这么说的：

Notice

Employees have to let their employer know as soon as possible if they can’t work and are taking personal or carers leave. They also have to let their employer know how much time they’re taking off, or how much time they expect to take off.

If an employee doesn’t give their employer as much notice as possible, they’re not entitled to take leave.

Evidence

An employer can ask an employee to give them proof to verify the reason for taking personal or carers leave.

An employee isn’t entitled to the leave if:

the employer asks them for evidence, and
the employee doesn’t provide evidence that would ‘satisfy a reasonable person’.
If the employee provides the evidence, the employer has to give them the leave.

An award or agreement can include terms about when and the kind of evidence an employee has to provide to be entitled to take leave. Check your award or agreement for details.

What types of evidence are acceptable?
A medical certificate or statutory declaration is generally considered an acceptable form of evidence.

不知道lz当时写email的时候有没有符合请假的要求。

更多关于personal/carer's leave的信息，大家可以看这里：
http://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave ... /pages/default.aspx

ssbb

看关系，看后台，看人品

要裁掉你，不需要理由，但是有理由更容易。

hua01040225

wuthering 发表于 2014-1-16 18:11
买不到票的时候，我有发邮件告诉经理

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这种事情还是不仅要发email 还要口头通知，因为有时候email 是可能被miss 掉的。
以后LZ 好好表现吧！

abd

wuthering 发表于 2014-1-16 18:52
发了邮件的

两周假只发邮件不够, 肯定要打电话沟通, 解释原因交待好工作, 得到老板同意才可以. 毕竟没人喜欢替别人多干两周的工作, 老板很难安排.

abd

wuthering 发表于 2014-1-16 19:42
每个人都有家里人，每个人也都有不得已，我知道我回来晚了是不对，但是carer leave pay 是每个员工都enti ...

Carer Leave是不是只能用在自己, 小孩和Partner生病的情况? 父母能用吗?

karaoke_oz

这tmd 什么破公司。。。

小北极熊

abd 发表于 2014-1-17 14:38
Carer Leave是不是只能用在自己, 小孩和Partner生病的情况? 父母能用吗?

Carer's leave is available where an employee must look after sick or injured:

1, immediate family members: or
2, household members

Immediate family members include the employees' spouse, children, parents, grandparents, grandchildren and siblings or those of their spouse.

The whole of the balance of personal leave can be taken as carer's leave.

小北极熊

楼主这种情况其实还可以再用 Compassionate Leave 2 days per instance

Visiting a seriouly ill or dying relative, as well as the normal funeral situation.

abd

小北极熊 发表于 2014-1-17 14:43
Carer's leave is available where an employee must look after sick or injured:

1, immediate family ...

哦, 这样啊, 我还真不知道. 以为只能小孩和自己用呢. 不错

xlin8703

righttang 发表于 2014-1-16 20:14
首先，事情是你自己做的，当你决定延迟2周，下这个决定的时候，你其实已经做好心理准备被公司开掉了
矿工 ...

商务平常就要3-4千单程，更何况是圣诞。。。没有最贵只有更贵

2013whyregister

Start looking for the next job now!
Don't quit until you find the next job!
Meanwhile try to accommodate requests from existing employer!

xlin8703

what 发表于 2014-1-17 00:41
换位思考一下，你要是老板，员工一会妈妈生病一会爸爸生病，请了假不算还弄些证明来延期(我只是拿LZ打个 ...

那您还是趁早回天朝当雇主去

cdfei

xlin8703 发表于 2014-1-17 16:40
那您还是趁早回天朝当雇主去

同意，屌丝就按屌丝的位置思考，弄啥换位思维，就是那种吃地沟油的命，操中南海的心的人？傻人才这样做，不过法律和规则制度一定要遵守，LZ失败就是把买不起机票这种事情拿到台面上说了。

jw222

同学,你公司没有直接把你开除已经是很好的了.

回头看看你的合约是咋写的吧.

你也不能怪人家脸色不好.
你这样子,做你老板的那位估计也给他老板教训了.
而且这种行为影响是很坏的.
所以你老板肯定给你脸色看的.不然以后他怎么带人.

xlin8703

qqyang 发表于 2014-1-17 10:13
楼主，你以前多努力干活，和你未经批准逾期不回去上班，这是完全没有关系的两码事。

你如果觉得你以前一个 ...

总结楼上的一句好就是，做员工要是太老实，被老板欺负就是自找的。

另外，楼主的这个假是突发状况，不是annual leave, 是可以拿carer s leave. 没有回程机票是因为卡在圣诞，没有回来的机位。商务平常单程就是3-4千，圣诞没有最贵，只有更贵。

可以想像，楼主母亲高血压，父亲被转入重症病房，这边还要楼主乖乖的等经理批假回家嘛？这种情况下，提这种要求合理嘛？如果经理不批，万一发生什么大事，套用楼上的逻辑，也是要怪楼主的“不反抗，不作为”？是楼主不说，所以人家认为楼主很happy about it?

何况经理的本职工作就是要manage team,连这点基本的team member 需要cover 的突发问题都manage不好，要经理来做什么？经理难道就只是sit back and relax and watch the team work their ass off for him?

xlin8703

像楼主这样的team lead,只会让这个team更涣散。。。一有事，跑得更快。。。。

xlin8703

sdfacre 发表于 2014-1-17 09:44
from my point of view, if you need time to take care of your family, say it. otherwise, you have to  ...

From my point of view, that s the team lead's role and job to manage staff turn over and other unexpected issues. Team members are not being paid to think in the manager's shoe and should not certainly be expected to carry over their responsibilities.  Given LZ's situation, if the lead is genuine enough, should have told LZ his entitlement to carers leave at the first instance, let alone declining his leave application. That's totally unreasonable and outrageous. I certainly hope that you will not ever find yourself in the same situation as LZ and only to get told 'no' by your boss too.

xlin8703

Please remember that, despite our positions and differences, we are all humans, not cold blooded work machines at the end of day.

左手写她

是什么公司，你发了邮件有没有回，给你假了才行

左手写她

如果关系紧张，还是自己先找到工作，然后辞职

xlin8703

moshou 发表于 2014-1-17 11:56
大家注意：
LZ是因为没有便宜票，所以没有按时回来。
她也想改时间回来的，那么说明她不是为了照顾父亲的， ...

That delay was not without the relevant context, which was to care for the gravelly illed father overseas.......LZ certainly does not warrant a warning letter for his absence from work....the leave was not unexplained and without reasonable ground

mimiying

记了档案是公司内部的，一般三次书面警告才算，不过现在公司都挺聪明的，也怕惹麻烦被员工告呢，我看过manager写的一张纸上面什么六个步骤怎么炒人，后来炒了一个同事的，你这是第一步。不过我觉得可以跟hr反映的阿，你有医生证明，和manager的email书面证明可以argue的。

xlin8703

xingbu 发表于 2014-1-17 12:05
楼主我很同情你的情况，但是觉得你的理解有点问题。carers leave确实是你的entitlement，但是必须要满足 ...

Plz refer to the relevant fair work link provided earlier in the post.....you may wish to not keep misleading LZ as to the appropriate entitlement to carers leave..it applies to the person to whom the employee needs to look after not the circumstances to whichever that the employee is being subjected to

mimiying

澳洲人一般都会据理力争，绝不简单认错。而且这里是认为你一旦认错了就特别好欺负。

kov

wuthering 发表于 2014-1-16 17:16
书面，我还要签字的，说实话这几天上班心里挺难受的，经理看我不顺眼，一直在找我的麻烦，我觉得我是不是 ...

有好的去处，直接走人，没啥好留恋的。此处不留爷，后面你也懂！(paopaobing(3))

sdfacre

xlin8703 发表于 2014-1-17 17:24
That delay was not without the relevant context, which was to care for the gravelly illed father o ...

will you tell you boss that, the fuel is $100/L, I am not coming now, and still ask for salary? This sounds ridiculous to me.

xlin8703

sdfacre 发表于 2014-1-17 17:33
will you tell you boss that, the fuel is $100/L, I am not coming now, and still ask for salary? Th ...

That s a complete different scenario. You are comparing apple to bananas. What resemblance does the two have??

Delay is a delay is a delay, however it was not entirely without the relevant context. You may wish to refer to my early replies.