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everyday

谢谢会计大牛了

Halsey

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han020573

这些活儿，我们单位是Financial controller干

求高人指点

zhuye1123

这么高端，学习了

tuxiaobao

土澳的招聘广告太多基本看不懂，因为太多HR和中介啥都不懂，如果说要求revenue和billing, 那么项目应该和Utility(Public Utility), Energy或者电信有关，Billing牵涉business support system， 涵盖了charging, billing和revenue, 及revenue assurance. 但这又是accounting的工作，到底雇主要求啥呢？个人理解 ROI是否应该指这项目和Revenue和Billing有关，投入和回报及风险的分析模型？又或者现有系统或者新系统上线后的收费模式及回报分析？

仅供楼主参考。

tuxiaobao

偶不是会计滴，只是给银行做过marketing campaign，但电信行业的revenue和billing,以及mobile plan，这类项目做的可不少。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

bjaulxj

楼主，按这个职位要求，你AA做不了的。先找个FA做是正道。这个要求给你职位，你去了也过不了试用期的。

bt123123

do u know the industry?
Telecommunication?

Some of the responsibilities look like more business analysis than normal account

ctal

Project accounting is in a niche market. If you don't have specific skill or experience, it is very hard to get in.

For example, base on the Key Responsibility 3, there could be a question for you "How does the month end cost accrual impact on the WIP?"

atianyi

国内做过项目BA的来说说
我在制造业，所有的售价和成本都由costing部门提供，你需要开会和工厂探讨成本模型是否可行
根据预算先出P&L看看是否盈利，然后根据turnover days推算出B/S,最后推算cash flow
大多数的回报率都是根据cash flow来算的

关键就是各部门的沟通来获得准确的数据
然后reporting的时候需要回答各种来自management的刁钻问题
还需要presentation和PPT的能力
报表需要熟练用一些Excel的

PS.本人现在在小公司做bookkeeper

feilafeila

好高级，进来学习！

oldrrr

Project accountant对行业的经历比较看重

比如说我做工程类的，换个industry，就不行了。很单一。

KKei

开玩笑..这个是very high end 工作.

一般FA/MA也做不了.

csq84

你投了也不会有戏的，

起码要从 AA - MA - Senior MA 再会考虑去做这个，而且模型能力又要很强

memeyu

在国内的时候，和financial controller 和部门的其他2个人，4个人整整忙了2个月改了40版才能把一个group 的项目模型做出来,交给董事会审核。其中的assumption, logical,三大表之间的关系相当复杂。模型的目的是要做出cash flow forecast.

hj1985

楼主说实话这个很难，1还好，2和3就难很多了，你们公司如果现在你做过Project Accounting可以试试，要不然就算了

hj1985

1Project Accounting tasks including project budget and performance management
- setting up project budget can start from what is the projected revenue and associated costs, then reviewing budget on a regular basis based on a set of KPIs, then re-forecast based on current variances

2Project Analysis – Revenue & Billing arrangements / ROI Analysis
- You may have time billing which bills the revenue based on how many billable hours are put against the project or billing by milestone which you bill customer based on the % of completion as per contract. or sometimes can be pre-billing, you need to have exposure on WIP, deferred revenue etc.

3WIP and accruals for month end management accounting
- WIP basically means unbilled revenue, my old company will do jnl like Dr WIP Cr Unbilled revenue, then Dr Unbilled Revenue Cr Revenue when actual billing occurred. Accrual is very general, can be anythign relating to the project, you can either accrue based on actual or acrue based on budget, etc

PPCC

hj1985 发表于 2014-9-18 14:33
1Project Accounting tasks including project budget and performance management
- setting up project b ...

佩服！

learner5

hj1985 发表于 2014-9-18 15:33
1Project Accounting tasks including project budget and performance management
- setting up project b ...

对project accounting，BA很感兴趣，能否多赐教些？

zliybyc1

第2条 说难不难 说简单不简单
具体的billing和行业有很大关系 每个工程的billing系统也不一样
得参考签订合同时对于各项的收费guide来做billing
主要种类有labour和material
Labour里有design，install，engineer，subbie等等 各有各的rate 还要考虑有些有overtime
material里也有各个分项 每个mark up rate都不一样
Billing的东西是要给客户的 所以绝对不能出错 得很细心

分析的话 我们一般每个project每月都要做contract forecast,
我们得和engineer讨论各项cost 工程进度等等
全部Contract forecast完成后需要review
由此take up相应的revenue和margin
全部project完成后需要对各个sector进行分析 对比预算
为Management做好报告

并不是high end才能做的活 我是AA
一点浅见