一个人可以同时申请两个ＡＢＮ吗？

Dr.Y.

一个ｓｏｌｅｔｒａｄｅｒ
另一个是ｐａｒｔｎｅｒ
交税没有影响的，是吧

LENNY_DONG

要是赚钱，交更多税

qwertyui

可以.一个生意一个ABN是正常的.但是报税的工作也多了.

爱吃糖的小猪

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-15 21:50
要是赚钱，交更多税

你把名字改过来了？一时还没适应呢。

LENNY_DONG

爱吃糖的小猪 发表于 2013-7-15 22:37
你把名字改过来了？一时还没适应呢。

花了好几百大洋，买三个月保护费看看效果

cycwong21

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-15 22:39
花了好几百大洋，买三个月保护费看看效果

花小錢進大財。

LENNY_DONG

cycwong21 发表于 2013-7-15 23:45
花小錢進大財。

IF THAT WORKS, I PAY YOUR DINNER

solow520

貌似报税的手续会多很多

lqyhannah

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-16 10:40
IF THAT WORKS, I PAY YOUR DINNER

我还以为是新人呢，原来是您老人家上纲上线了~

LENNY_DONG

lqyhannah 发表于 2013-7-16 10:21
我还以为是新人呢，原来是您老人家上纲上线了~

that is my old ID

JohnnySu

You and the partnership would have a separate ABNs
One entity can not have two ABNs although it may have a few ABN branchs

cycwong21

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-16 09:40
IF THAT WORKS, I PAY YOUR DINNER

希望能很快地吃到你请的dinner。

tingnishuo

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-16 10:38
You and the partnership would have a separate ABNs
One entity can not have two ABNs although it may  ...

你的意思是一个人不能有两个ABN?

allgone

可以

myaqk

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-15 21:50
要是赚钱，交更多税

请教个问题，一个LPO的生意，税务上不是能灵活处理的，放在family trust下好呢，还是公司名下好呢？

LENNY_DONG

myaqk 发表于 2013-7-22 22:54
请教个问题，一个LPO的生意，税务上不是能灵活处理的，放在family trust下好呢，还是公司名下好呢？ ...

如果生意长期会升值。
那么TRUST将来卖生意时会有DISCOUNT

公司结构没有DISCOUNT

家里成员多，可以分散利润。

myaqk

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-22 22:55
如果生意长期会升值。
那么TRUST将来卖生意时会有DISCOUNT

谢谢您。这discount是不是考虑了货币贬值的因素，若干年之后卖生意，升值部分打点折扣再上税？

不好意思，再问一个，用公司来买这个生意，有好处吗？

JohnnySu

tingnishuo 发表于 2013-7-22 18:20
你的意思是一个人不能有两个ABN?

No.
You could have branch numbers after an ABN but you can only have one ABN.
e.g.

12 345 678 123   
branch number 001
branch number 002
branch number 003..

JohnnySu

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-22 22:55
如果生意长期会升值。
那么TRUST将来卖生意时会有DISCOUNT

Depends,
If the business is sold as shares in a company. The business owner would still get the normal 50% CGT discount + small business CGT concessions. Which may potentially eliminate the whole Capital Gain.

LENNY_DONG

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-23 10:21
Depends,
If the business is sold as shares in a company. The business owner would still get the n ...

Thank you for your point

But Trust had more felxbility for capital gain although lots trust deed need update based streaming rule.

It could end up no tax for lots people, but in asian community, no one like rollover in to the balance of capital gain in to super fund.

So trust has flexbility to disctribute CGT to all family member.

That is my personal point. full stop

JohnnySu

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-23 10:41
Thank you for your point

But Trust had more felxbility for capital gain although lots trust deed  ...

if I am understanding you correctly :

It could end up no tax for lots people, but in asian community, no one like rollover in to the balance of capital gain in to super fund.
I believe you are trying to say the Small Business CGT Retirement exemption but bare in mind there sure will be other Small Business CGT concessions applicable before the Retirement exemption i.e. the SB 50% CGT reduction, replacement asset rollover, 15 years exemption. The retirement exemption is at the bottom of the list and is only optional

LENNY_DONG

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-23 10:59
if I am understanding you correctly :

It could end up no tax for lots people, but in asian commu ...

Please expand as much as you can

I do not know have you considered the tax culture in our community. especially here.

LENNY_DONG

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-23 10:16
No.
You could have branch numbers after an ABN but you can only have one ABN.
e.g.

I can have three ABN

I am sole trader have on ABN

I am trustee of trust, I have another ABN , why not. ATO will ask my personal TFN to apply this ABN

I am partner of partnership. then I have another another ABN, Why not, ATo need my TFN again.

so many option etc etc, If I understandng right, does not need to be different branches

JohnnySu

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-23 11:19
I can have three ABN

I am sole trader have on ABN

I can have three ABN  

I am sole trader have on ABN This is your own ABN and it is linked to your TFN

I am trustee of trust, I have another ABN , why not. ATO will ask my personal TFN to apply this ABN This is the ABN that belongs to the trust. It is linked to the Trust's TFN

I am partner of partnership. then I have another another ABN, Why not, ATo need my TFN again.This is the partnership's ABN and it is linked to the partnership's TFN

This is basic concept. I hope you are not confused.  

LENNY_DONG

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-23 11:29
I can have three ABN   

I am sole trader have on ABN This is your own ABN and it is linked ...

HOHO

LZ ask can I apply two ABN

when you apply abn for Trust, do you need fill trustee personal TFN if trustee is individual?

Same as partnership

That is basic step to apply, hope u understand chinese when LZ ask this question. do not confuse, CA

JohnnySu

STS-TAX 发表于 2013-7-23 11:31
HOHO

LZ ask can I apply two ABN

LENNY_DONG

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-23 11:33

Hey,Mate

plz keep going

I just follow your style .Do not stop

Dr.Y.

楼主傻眼了，大家这楼盖的。。。
按楼上说法，partnership也有tfn？请直白地告诉我吧
另外如果两个abn报税时是不是两分独立的报表，楼上说报税会复杂，是怎么个情况？

LENNY_DONG

Dr.Y. 发表于 2013-7-24 12:26
楼主傻眼了，大家这楼盖的。。。
按楼上说法，partnership也有tfn？请直白地告诉我吧
另外如果两个abn报税 ...

PARTNERSHIP HAS TFN

TAX RETURN ARE SEPARATELY

Dr.Y.

JohnnySu 发表于 2013-7-16 12:38
You and the partnership would have a separate ABNs
One entity can not have two ABNs although it may  ...

好像您的说法跟别的同学有出入？不明白。
那就是两个soletrader不能再组个新的partnership？同时有新的abn？