建筑行业继续惨淡啊

tld128

刚刚收到中介关于最近一段时间市场的报告：

Architecture:
建筑设计行业

There is no doubt that the Architectural Market is really struggling in NSW at the moment with many companies looking at reducing staff numbers or hours in order to help them through a tough period.

Larger Architectural firms in Sydney are still very cautious in regards to long-term recruitment strategies with even the most positive groups not committed on growth over the next six months. Once again, this lack of confidence has meant more contract positions for highly skilled and flexible candidates. These contract roles tend to focus on documentation skills and CAD experience and to those candidates who can start immediately.

Similar to the past three months, Revit remains in demand as the pool of candidates with strong Revit experience slowly grows but is still relatively small. A number of firms understand that BIM is something that will play a big part in their future but have found it hard to bring in candidates with high level BIM experience.

Project experience is also something that is more important than ever in the selection criteria. Architectural practices understand that they can wait for the right candidate to come along, who has exactly the right experience. Areas that we have had the greatest demand over the last three months have been those candidates with Multi-Unit Residential, Aged Care and Infrastructure project experience.

The overall feeling amongst groups is that things will continue to be tough over the next six months with the market being very competitive and this will have negative impact on employment opportunities.  A number of larger groups have commented that this tough market is also having an impact on salary increases and promotion opportunities for existing staff.

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室内设计：

Interior Design:

As has been the case for most of 2012 to date, the majority of our new positions have come from within the Interior Design market and pleasingly this seems to remain busy across most sectors. Certainly the commercial, hospitality and retail markets have all remained relatively buoyant since the New Year. Clients, however, are still in a position to be very particular in their selection criteria when listing new positions, especially for permanent roles.

Our interior clients have been much more receptive to looking at candidates for strategic roles and in some cases are confident enough about the market to look at strong (especially senior) candidates when they come along. Many of our interiors clients are feeling fairly positive about the rest of the year but because of the turnover of smaller scale projects, will have to reassess the situation on a regular basis.  

The corporate fit-out sector continues to lead the way with a number of new positions coming through in this particular market over the last few months. We have seen that whilst this area is particularly competitive, some firms are feeling very positive, particularly design and build firms.

Other promising new is that the retail sector continues to show strong signs with a number of new positions being made available in this sector during March and April. As with Architecture, the majority of positions coming through are contract roles but they tend to be longer term. Candidates that are immediately available and also flexible in regards to location and rates are finding they are not unwanted for long!

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墨尔本的情况如下：

Market conditions are still sending mixed signals as we approach the second half of 2012. Whilst there are good levels of activity in some sectors, a larger proportion of the market is showing signs of uncertainty when it comes to new projects commencing.

This continued uncertainty is most apparent in mid to larger scale developments upwards of $50M. Now that both the State and Federal budgets have been released, groups who operate in these institutional project areas are anticipating a difficult 12-months ahead based on limited industry related outcomes from both budgets. There are some positives though and with several project initiatives due to commence, these projects are hotly sought after.

As a result of the uncertainty, recruitment trends are difficult to quantify and indeed vary from month to month. A tangible trend has been the increase in the proportion of contract roles over permanent positions, with many positions being listed as a result of new projects commencing and offering short term engagement to people with relevant skills to the projects’ needs. Given the tight time frames that many projects are demanding, employers are leaning towards contract engagements due to the flexibility this allows. The ability to extend contract duration, should further projects commit, is also being noted as a positive by clients, as they would prefer to transition previous or existing contract personnel into an ongoing or permanent role when workflow permits.

Permanent roles are tending to be more strategic in nature; for instance, a practice will isolate specific skill sets that do not currently exist within their mix of personnel. Based on the softer market conditions, a number of these strategic roles have resulted in strong outcomes for the practices and relevant applicants alike.

Interestingly, these strategic roles have targeted relatively junior people right through to senior level professionals, and this perhaps gives us some insight into the broader market place in general. Prominent in these requests has been strong concept design capabilities, particularly with broadly based project sector experience, suggesting that these practices expect to remain active in feasibility and concept stages into the medium term. Importantly, many are indicating that they are not confident of projects gaining the necessary financial commitment to progress to construction stages.

Second to design capabilities are requests for those with strong client management experience, however many of these roles remain on hold until projects are 100% confirmed.

There have been fewer strategic enquiries for project delivery and documentation personnel; again suggestive that the focus of many practices’ is to win projects at the current time, rather than deliver them.

Similar to our update in February, approximately 20% of clients are comfortable with their current and upcoming project flow, 60% are anticipating project commitments and 20% are voicing strong concern as to the forthcoming workload. Of that 60% in the middle, a strong proportion are noting concern as to the elongated time frames associated with projects gaining commitment. The next few months will be critical to see what type and scale of projects move forward into construction stages, and as a result, determining overall market activity levels for the latter part of 2012 and heading into 2013.

As has been the case over the past twelve months, broader economic scenarios internationally continue to impact confidence levels locally. Reasons for projects having long lead in times range from overall market confidence levels being low, stringent financing requirements from lending institutions, planning issues and limited projects emanating from the Public Sector.

Recent drops in interest rates (and the expectation of more to come), along with the drop in the Australian dollar in recent weeks are seen as positives from many, although not yet enough to have an immediate tangible impact.

In positive terms, projects that we are seeing move forward are coming from “pockets” within different project sectors and are broadly based, with evidence that quality apartments, institutional, health, commercial refurbishment, retail and hospitality projects are moving forward, having gained both regulatory and financial commitments. A number of these projects are Revit based and as a result, demand has remained consistent for capable, industry experienced Revit skilled Architects, Technicians and Interior Designers.

The Interior Design market is similar to Architecture, in that activity levels are varied with some retail, commercial and residential projects moving forward. A large number of practices continue to indicate long lead in times and tight fee levels which are key issues in determining levels of future workload. Whilst a number of larger commercial tenancy projects are “potentials”, the industry is still keen to see these move into the “definite” territory.   

Hourly rates and salaries have not seen any tangible increase during 2012 so far, but given that a number of practices will soon be conducting mid-year reviews, determining increases for staff and essentially looking to balance CPI increases with future fee and project forecasts is proving difficult.  

Given the increasing competitiveness for available roles, we note that there has been a level of flexibility from immediately available applicants when entering new positions, but in the majority of instances, contract rates and salaries have held at a similar level to early 2012.

tld128

我们公司刚刚请了2个人，一个是3D的，一个是建筑设计的

但是我知道其他公司的情况还是很差很差

寒冬

dudu1

建筑行业一直都如此。

summer-dong

什么时候寒冬才能过去？

tld128

准确来说，应该是主要面向澳洲本地的设计公司，大部分都很惨淡，除了那些做学校，医疗有关的

site architect应该还可以的

会Revit，并有过做整套图纸经验的朋友还是可以找到工作的。

做国际项目的，例如：中国、东南亚的目前还是很忙。只不过大部分公司都不敢大幅请人，就算目前不够人用，还是不敢

据说7月1号之后，政府开始放松银行关于商业的贷款，年底到明年年初可能才会有所好转。有工作的朋友，捉紧时间提高自己的revit水平，没有工作的朋友，最好去tafe报读一个revit的课程吧。

不过revit只是一个敲门砖，关键还是对建筑设计的理解。工作了10年，发现公司裁员，选择的人，一个是工作态度不好的；一个是不能将设计转化成图纸的（documentation ability），年纪轻的，就是不能画图，对结构不了解，年纪大一点的就是documentation management的能力有欠缺的。

对于华人来说，除非presentation ability很强很强，不然，做设计的机会基本等于零。有点可悲，看国内的大学同学，到现在这个阶段基本都是可以参与设计，甚至主管设计了。

cavenn

建筑行业惨淡是因为什么原因呢？是指商业建筑，还是民用建筑？

西边雨

政府也有问题，一个项目拿permit多费劲，市场不好大家就耗不起了

2bnot2b

分析的很好。

但能不能參與設計，與你和客戶之間的溝通分析能力，及你和其他專業的協調能力更加有關。

watermoon

lz 一定是在大公司。 我们公司一共就10多个人，好多项目我都是从concept阶段开始就参与设计的，有几个project甚至从设计到doco都是我一个人来， 所以华人参与设计不是不可能。 这个圈子里ABC华人设计师还是很多的， 只不过象我们这样第一代移民的比较少。对于室内设计这个工作本身我很有满足感，但看了这次DIA的industry income report, 感觉自己＂钱＂途渺茫。不知这种精神上的满足感能在吃不饱也饿不死的状态下兴奋多久。

dudu1

revit是什么？我们做基建和矿山，对建筑不是很熟悉。但知道CIVIL这行，在建筑业工资最低。

Collins

是Autodesk的一个软件，有点像Archicad. 挺好用，就是易学难精。那个族不太容易。

曾家大少

go back china..

feiyu299

那现在盖民宅是不是便宜呢？

T-shirt

BIM  / REVIT光靠培训没用，得打真军，做实战~

不是说不少中资开发了很多住宅项目么？不叫华人雇员参与设计，恐怕不好8~

shangpin

我都是找华人的设计公司.

Collins

是Autodesk的一个软件，有点像Archicad. 挺好用，就是易学难精。那个族不太容易。

菜田

楼主是建筑设计的。我是building services的，大公司的design engineer和drafting person还是分的比较明显的，BIM一般都是drafting team做的，engineer则集中精力在design, computation,documentation等方面。小公司倒是可能一个人全做，但小公司的项目用不着Revit MEP。所以Recruiting Agency发出来的要求BIM经验和REVIT要求的都是draftperson的职位。

[ 本帖最后由 菜田 于 2012-6-12 00:02 编辑 ]

tld128

原帖由 2bnot2b 于 2012-6-9 11:26 发表
分析的很好。

但能不能參與設計，與你和客戶之間的溝通分析能力，及你和其他專業的協調能力更加有關。

我说的是，公司很少会给这样的机会给华人跟客户之间直接沟通，除非是华人的客户，或者是一些公司不太重视的客户。

我如果做中国国内项目，或者台湾的项目，是有机会去做project architect的。

我做过中型公司做了1年半，4、50人的，ABC是有机会出去直接面对客人的，大陆出来的基本没有机会

做过小型公司，加上parttime的会计一共5个人，项目不多，一般见客人就是老板亲自去，我就只是呆在公司画图。

可能我做过的公司还不算多吧，我可以在大型基建项目上跟其他专业协调，PB、arup、thesis和 TJH（Thesis John Holland），都有协调合作过，也和一些海外的local design institute合作过。

我在澳洲9年了，工作满了9年，华人，特别是本科是国内学历的华人，能当上project archtiect的不多。做小house， residential的机会会大一些，不过做residential的，注册了的华人建筑师，还不如自己跳出来帮人做更能赚钱。

tld128

原帖由 watermoon 于 2012-6-11 22:00 发表
lz 一定是在大公司。 我们公司一共就10多个人，好多项目我都是从concept阶段开始就参与设计的，有几个project甚至从设计到doco都是我一个人来， 所以华人参与设计不是不可能。 这个圈子里ABC华人设计师还是很多的， 只不过象 ...

你说的是室内设计？interior design吧，我了解不多

这一行，我见过的华人也有，听说Hassell里面有个很厉害的香港女孩，据说是她的设计赢了香格里拉酒店的室内设计，据说如果她是本地人的话，应该已经可以升级到associate 级别了，但是因为是华人，所以做着associate的活，但是职位却低一级。这个完全是道听途说，是否真事，还请Hassell的朋友澄清一下

小麦麦

lz说的很对，现在建筑公司一般只有做university and public project的才有活，做residential的好多都在亏本，惨淡阿，刚考完了注册，全无用武之地~

xyliu925

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watermoon

那个女生我有过几面之缘， 这里真的会有同学是Hassell 的吗？可能我们见过哦：）前一阵子 instyle 有个跳舞比赛， 一个人看着很像足迹上的 如果知道我在说什么的话请一定现身，太搞笑了！