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NSW - My School 中小学的NAPLAN排名 [复制链接]

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今天SMH作为一个“好事者”,动作神速的公布了根据MYSCHOOL所披露的NAPLAN数据,作出了NSW的小学,中学的排名。

这是在预料之中的事情。。。

看看今天的新闻
http://www.smh.com.au/national/e ... s9.html?autostart=1

Local primaries go head to head with high-rollers

ANNA PATTY EDUCATION EDITOR
January 29, 2010

THE My School website is pitting the likes of the Scots College against Newtown North Public, Trinity Grammar with Bulli and Kiama high schools and Concord West Public with The King's School and Kincoppal-Rose Bay.

The school results data, which went online yesterday, provide the first statewide comparison of primary schools, based on their results in last year's national literacy and numeracy tests in years 3 and 5.

St Francis of Assisi Primary School in Paddington ranked first, followed by St Mary's Preparatory School in North Sydney, Artarmon Public School, John Colet School in Belrose and Woollahra Public School.

Primary schools A-Z

Secondary schools A-Z

Top of the class - the 50 top primary and secondary schools by key measures
(revised)


Twenty public selective schools dominate the rankings, along with the selective private school Sydney Grammar.

A number of independent girls' schools, including Queenwood and Ascham, follow closely.

James Ruse Agricultural High, which dominates HSC performance lists, is placed first for numeracy, grammar, spelling and reading. But when it comes to writing, James Ruse is nudged into second place by the selective school St George Girls High.

Primary and secondary principals complained yesterday that the measure of social disadvantage, on which groups of ''statistically similar'' schools were based, had allowed for some unfair comparisons.

The president of the NSW Primary Principals' Association, Geoff Scott, said the omission of each school's financial resources was a big flaw in the database.

''That has such a huge impact on schools such as mine in Blacktown South,'' he said.

''We struggle to get money in this school for 800 kids.''

Jim McAlpine, head of the Secondary Principals Council, said: ''ICSEA [the Index of Community Socio-Educational Advantage] might be a good measure of educational advantage, but it is not a good way of describing schools that are similar.''

Tim Hawkes, the headmaster of The King's School, described the index as ''a secret herbs and spices thing''. While it was easy to find absurdity in comparing public schools with wealthier ones, he said the ''far greater absurdity is having selective schools compared with non-selective schools''.

Peter Hill, chief executive of the Australian Curriculum Assessment Reporting Authority, said the index was an accurate predictor of performance based on National Assessment Program - Literacy and Numeracy tests.

''It is one of the best predictors of results we've ever had,'' he said. ''Because we don't have lots of detailed background information on every student in Australia, we make use of ABS data related to the census collection district in which the student lives.''

But Mr Hill said there were some exceptions - including remote schools in the Northern Territory where the index was skewed by a wealthy cattle station near an Aboriginal community.

Angelo Gavrielatos, president of the Australian Education Union, said schools were threatened by league tables ''driven by totally bizarre mind-boggling school comparison data''.

''If this is transparency, heaven help us,'' he said.

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作为经常和州政府作对的媒体,SMH还发表了一篇编者按,向公众说明为什么SMH要公布排名


http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/editorial/why-we-are-publishing-a-league-table-20100128-n1ly.html

Why we are publishing a league table

January 29, 2010

This newspaper has been a consistent supporter of quality education. That is not the same, of course, as unquestioning support for whatever education lobby groups and teachers may have demanded at a given point. It is rather support for whatever promotes a flexible and responsive system that challenges young people, enriches their experience, enlarges their imagination and horizons, and equips them where appropriate with vocational skills. Above all, it is support for raising the status of education - of schools and teachers, of teaching and learning - in Australia's priorities. The clever country is a much overused slogan, but it does express a worthwhile aim. If Australia is indeed to become the clever country, we believe greater variety, and greater choice in education, informed by accurate information, are essential.

Today, consistent with that historic support for quality education, the Herald publishes a league table of NSW schools. We do so fully aware of the controversy it is likely to raise - and in full knowledge that what we do contravenes the absurd, inconsistent and oppressive law of this state. Published online the same tables infringe no law; printed on these pages they are illegal. Such laws bring the law itself into contempt. But we take this risk believing that publishing this information is in the public interest.

The Federal Government is right to want to rank all schools in the country according to their performance in standardised tests. That information is already known to education administrators, of course. Why then does making it public make a positive contribution? We believe there are three main reasons.

The first is, as the Education Minister, Julia Gillard, states, the impetus it will give to parental action on standards at their school. A more important aspect of this will be the political pressure the information will prompt to improve standards at underperforming schools. To point out that a school is not performing as well as its peers is essential if problems are to be addressed. It is not to stigmatise the school; still less is it to stigmatise students at the school. It is to effect change where necessary. As the Herald reported yesterday, figures obtained by the state Opposition show that as things stand poorly performing schools do not necessarily receive the remedial funding they need. Leaving things up to the experts - keeping performance data secret within the bureaucracy, as the critics of publication want - does not result in action. We believe publishing the data will increase the pressure to fix problems. Moreover, we believe there is a strong case for a national body - a bureau of education statistics - to publish and analyse the information in an impartial and apolitical way.

The second reason for publishing the figures is to give parents better information on which to base their choice of a school. Simple aggregates of results in basic skills tests say a little about what a school is achieving, but they do not reflect the full experience that each school offers. They provide a necessary basis, though, on which comparisons can be made, which, with other information provided by schools, other parents and the community, will give parents more confidence.

As with any radical change to past practice, there are, of course, dangers in publishing comparative data. As critics of publication have stated, there exists a risk that schools will be prompted simply to teach to the test and neglect a broader education. There is a related danger if poor performance is allied to increased funding: might underperforming schools close to a cut-off point for assistance not be tempted to depress their performance so as to boost school funds? Damaging trends such as these have been observed in Britain and the United States where school performance data has been published.

The Federal Government has yet to explain how it will counter practices that would undermine its attempt to improve educational quality. However, we believe that awareness of the traps will help education professionals - and parents - avoid them. We believe too that on balance the benefits of transparency in this case outweigh its possible costs.

The third reason is both more general and more fundamental. The Government's decision to go ahead with the MySchool website, despite widespread criticism from teachers - a core Labor constituency - hints at a broader agenda. The advantage for a government that wants genuinely to transform education is that publishing the information in this way may create a political groundswell for change - in education funding in particular.

Funding arrangements in education obscure problems as much as they fix them. Because, in broad terms, state governments fund public schools and the Commonwealth funds private schools, politicians from different levels of government are easily able to push different priorities to suit local or sectional interests. The result is a confused mess of funding policies. By making public the comparative performance data on all schools it is allowing all Australians to see, in effect, how each school, public and private, is using its funding, and to judge how well taxpayers' funds are being spent. It should lead eventually to thoroughgoing reform of education funding. In a field where public debate about the distribution of funds between public and private schools has for too long been conducted in a thick fog of rumour and prejudice, accurate comparisons will for the first time shine a clear light.

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再附SMH关于产生这些排名的进一步解读

现在没时间来翻译,大家先看着,讨论下。。。

http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/how-the-tables-were-produced-20100128-n1x6.html

How the tables were produced

January 29, 2010 - 2:16AM

THE Federal Government's publication of national test scores allows parents, principals, teachers and students to compare for the first time how schools across the country are performing in literacy and numeracy.

To produce the tables, the Herald collected all the results for NSW schools from the myschool.edu.au website. For each school there are results in five areas: reading, writing, spelling, grammar and punctuation, and numeracy.

Primary schools A-Z

Secondary schools A-Z

Top of the class - the 50 top primary and secondary schools by key measures

The tests are conducted in years 3, 5, 7 and 9. So for each NSW primary school, there are 10 test results (year 3 and 5 results in five subjects). And for each secondary school, there are 10 test results (year 7 and 9 results in five subjects).

We aggregated these into a single number by taking a simple average of these 10 results. This provides a statewide ranking of primary and secondary schools.

The Government's measure of socio-economic status is the Index of Community Socio-Educational Advantage (ICSEA) number. This takes into account 16 variables that have influenced educational outcomes, including levels of income, employment and educational attainment in the census districts where students live and the proportion of people who come from non-English speaking backgrounds.

We have given each school a rank based on its ICSEA score, with the highest numbers indicating high levels of disadvantage.

If the number of students sitting the test was below a particular threshold, the My School website does not report grades. If only one or two of the 10 test scores were missing, we included the school in our tables. But if more than two tests were missing, we dropped it entirely.

A handful of schools did not report an ICSEA score, so the adjustments were not performed for them.

Special schools are dropped from the study (only a handful of them reported tests).

Combined schools are treated as two schools – a primary school (based on their year 3 and 5 results) and a secondary school (based on their year 7 and 9 results).

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读完上面三篇新闻和看了排名表,大家可以随便发表意见。
支持和和反对的来畅所欲言

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artarmon public  :  state  ranking  3  / ICSEA 13

牛!

怪不得, 我住ARTARMON的时候 那么破得要命的房子租金要 ***/周

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两个RANK 都能进各位数的  有 MOSMAN CHURCH OF ENGLAND PREPARATORY SCHOOL  6/6
MOSMAN 果然是精英地区精英云集阿 MOSMAN公校就差多了 当然,都住MOSMAN了谁会送公校啊
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chatswood周边几个学校排名差别很大啊

退役斑竹

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原帖由 lo@syd 于 2010-1-29 09:50 发表
artarmon public  :  state  ranking  3  / ICSEA 13

牛!

怪不得, 我住ARTARMON的时候 那么破得要命的房子租金要 ***/周


Artarmon,除了三个电视塔和靠近大路之外,其他方面都是很有优势的区。我在学校边上租过房,房东就是为了送孩子上那学校而买的房子。

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奇怪,Sydney Grammar Edgecliff 应该是第一呀,怎么会榜上无名呢?

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smh就是精英中学出来的多啊,每回读文章都顶费解,能学好多生词。a handful of, 学到了,看什么时候能第二次遇到。

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原帖由 garysu 于 2010-1-29 10:06 发表
Artarmon,除了三个电视塔和靠近大路之外,其他方面都是很有优势的区。我在学校边上租过房,房东就是为了送孩子上那学校而买的房子。

在Artarmon,就为了孩子上学买房租房的人多如牛毛。
五年前我刚来的时候就听老移民们说过了,呵呵。
很多人一直说Chatswood很贵,其实和Artarmon综合相比,还算可以啦。
要说原因,这个小学从来就是个主要因素。
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50名之后的小学就没有排名了

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估计会导致50名内小学周边房子变贵

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ICSEA Rank

什么意思

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原帖由 joyayaya 于 2010-1-29 10:50 发表
估计会导致50名内小学周边房子变贵

应该不会突然变贵,好的公立私立学校旁边(除了要考的精英中学)本来就很贵。

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artarmon的精英班还是很不错的

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EPPING的房价肯定只升不降了,附近几个区的小学都在50名之内
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原帖由 patrickzhu 于 2010-1-29 10:47 发表

在Artarmon,就为了孩子上学买房租房的人多如牛毛。
五年前我刚来的时候就听老移民们说过了,呵呵。
很多人一直说Chatswood很贵,其实和Artarmon综合相比,还算可以啦。
要说原因,这个小学从来就是个主要因素。 ...

artarmon 小学牛啊,估计artarmon的房价将会很火

退役斑竹

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原帖由 patrickzhu 于 2010-1-29 10:47 发表

在Artarmon,就为了孩子上学买房租房的人多如牛毛。
五年前我刚来的时候就听老移民们说过了,呵呵。
很多人一直说Chatswood很贵,其实和Artarmon综合相比,还算可以啦。
要说原因,这个小学从来就是个主要因素。 ...


2006年看房的时候也没觉得chatswood贵,当时burwood已经和chatswood差不多了

问题是chatswood抢的人太多,市场上冒出个unit,一堆华人大叔大婶围上去,电梯跑了可能10趟才把所有人拉上去,中介嗓子都冒烟了。于是,我就不敢再看chatswood了。

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好小学都在富人区,好中学穷区比例大幅升高

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原帖由 gandu 于 2010-1-29 10:58 发表

artarmon 小学牛啊,估计artarmon的房价将会很火


School                               Suburb              State Ranking   ICSEA Rank
Artarmon Public School      Artarmon                         3                13
Chatswood Public School     Chatswood                    62               55

Artarmon得确牛,NAPLAN的综合平均分在NSW所有的公立小学里是冠军,民间过去的赞誉称赞“它是新南威尔士州最好公立小学”名符其实。

Chatwood Public也算不错了,ICSEA是55,名次是62,反映了其真实的水平。

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原帖由 garysu 于 2010-1-29 11:12 发表
2006年看房的时候也没觉得chatswood贵,当时burwood已经和chatswood差不多了
问题是chatswood抢的人太多,市场上冒出个unit,一堆华人大叔大婶围上去,电梯跑了可能10趟才把所有人拉上去,中介嗓子都冒烟了。 ...

的确是。我也是一堆华人大叔大婶里的一个。
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是不是这样解读? artarmon 小学, 有钱人也很好学, chatswood, 比较没有那么有钱(因为有’我是穷人‘? ) 但是也很好学

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嘿嘿,昨天我就说, artarmon最好

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Epping,Eastwood,Carlingford三角区有6所小学上榜,算上附近的Beecroft就是7所,所以是华人买房的大热门。
Artarmon是好,可是那里买不起House,对我来说就没有吸引力

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原帖由 BOC 于 2010-1-29 13:00 发表
Epping,Eastwood,Carlingford三角区有6所小学上榜,算上附近的Beecroft就是7所,所以是华人买房的大热门。
Artarman是好,可是那里买不起House,对我来说就没有吸引力


华人和韩国人都重视教育,倒过来又促进了这些学校更好.

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华人和韩国人都重视教育,倒过来又促进了这些学校更好.

良性循环吧
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南区的小学好像差了好多啊,排名最靠前的是hurstville public 了,才66,大家传说的carlton 300以后了

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原帖由 joyceliu 于 2010-1-29 13:21 发表
南区的小学好像差了好多啊,排名最靠前的是hurstville public 了,才66,大家传说的carlton 300以后了



你知道吗,不是因为hurstville public 5年级有精英班的话,排名至少退后100名.

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刚才去公司另一个堆场,办公室里读了下the daily telegraph的报道。
作为另一个经常和州政府作对的悉尼报纸,daily telegraph今天也大幅报道了MYSCHOOL开站的盛况,把这个网站运行称之为“家长们的胜利”,报纸教育的专栏记者Maralyn Parker一向说话尖刻,这次也大力赞扬了政府的网站,很难得,呵呵。

Public students at the top of the class as My School website kicks in

PUBLIC schools across the state have emerged as beacons of academic success, with the historic release of literacy and numeracy data showing some are out-performing high-fee private colleges.
The Federal Government's revolutionary website My School crashed almost instantly when it was deluged by 290,000 hits in the first hour after launching at 1am yesterday.

But huge numbers of Australians kept trying to log on to the website throughout the day in their hunger for comprehensive information about almost 10,000 schools across the country.

Education Minister Julia Gillard defended the website's viability and said the unprecedented demand for access had caused the meltdown.

Tell us what you think of the site. How does your school rate?

By 10am there had been 2.5 million hits and by 2pm 4.5 million hits - massively higher than expected.

The Australian Curriculum, Assessment and Reporting Authority said last night it had increased the website's capacity to handle the volume. "It is clear that there are many interested in accessing school performance information," chairman Barry McGaw said.

"The site will provide a basis for school improvement that we have not had in this country before."

Public release of national test data has thrown up success stories such as Boggabilla Central School on the NSW-Queensland border and Glebe Public School in inner-Sydney which are set to become templates for improving struggling schools around the state.

Boggabilla, the poorest school in NSW with a 99 per cent Aboriginal student population, returned a raft of impressive scores compared with statistically similar schools.

Glebe Public, another school with high Aboriginal enrolments, was celebrating a sea of green representing top results in reading, writing, spelling, grammar and punctuation and numeracy.

But the data also presents some major challenges to improve struggling schools in remote or disadvantaged areas where scores remain desperately low and student attendance can be as low as 65 per cent.

While many of the most prestigious fee-charging colleges did well, some were out-performed by local comprehensives.

Cranbrook School at Bellevue Hill, where media mogul James Packer attended classes, was below Bronte Public School, Balmain Public and Willoughby Girls High in some subjects. Knox Grammar at Wahroonga in Sydney's north was below Artarmon Public School and Gordon West Public School in some areas.

Beauty Point Public School in Sydney's north, Middle Harbour Public, Chatswood High, Concord West Public and Darlinghurst Public recorded higher scores than some private colleges.

The Association of Independent Schools said people should be careful about "placing too much store"on the figures. Executive director Geoff Newcombe said: "We feel independents have performed extremely well, especially traditional schools such as Ascham and Abbotsleigh."

Top government selective James Ruse Agricultural High School in Sydney's north performed substantially above average on all measures, outpacing its main rivals.

Teacher unions and some parents attacked My School, claiming it would be used to create simplistic league tables stigmatising poorly performing schools.

The website compares average test results from public and private schools with 60 "statistically similar" schools nationwide and 20 nearby schools.

About 45 per cent of schools had literacy and numeracy test results close to those of other statistically similar schools.

About 9 per cent were either substantially above or substantially below similar schools.

Premier Kristina Keneally said the website provided parents with essential information about their child's school.

"This is information parents have been telling us they want more of, not less," she said.

"It's a new era of transparency which will help us better identify schools that are underperforming to ensure all students are receiving the education they deserve."

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你知道吗,不是因为hurstville public 5年级有精英班的话,排名至少退后100名.

同感,退后200名都可能

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