苹果iphone 6s 芯片版本不同，续航差俩小时！大家回去查查自己是不是中招。

thundom

http://www.bit.com.au/News/410357,the-iphone-6s-two-hour-battery-life-lottery-8211-it-could-be-you.aspx?eid=59&edate=20151012&utm_source=20151012&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter&nl=daily

The iPhone 6s two-hour battery life lottery – it could be you!

The iPhone 6s two-hour battery life lottery  it could be you!
The iPhone 6s is one of the best smartphones we've seen, but it hides a dark secret. A dark, annoying, aggravating, hair-tearing, unfair secret.

iphone 6s可能是我们见过最好的手机，但是藏着一个暗黑的秘密，一个黑暗，令人生气，愤怒，拔头发的不公平的秘密。

Apple has used two versions of the A9 chip – one manufactured by Samsung, and the other by TSMC – but reports are now suggesting they behave very differently. They may have near-identical power and performance, but, in certain tests, the TSMC A9 offers around two hours more battery life than the Samsung chip.

apple有两种A9芯片， 三星的和TSMC的，现在据报道表现完全不同。他们的性能可能差不多但是有些测试显示，两种芯片续航差了2小时。

This certainly isn't the first time Apple has sourced components from two different manufacturers, but it's the first time there's been such a noticeable difference in battery performance.

这不是第一次apple从不同的厂商采购部件，但是是第一次表现如此差异巨大。

The differences between the chips

While it's important to remember there are variables at work, testing by Engadget and users on Reddit and other forums indicates a big difference between the chips. In Geekbench 3 tests, the TSMC A9 produced a runtime of 7hrs 50mins and a score of 4,703, while the Samsung-chipped version lasted for a lowly 6hrs 5mins of running, and only scored 3,653. Whichever way you look at it, that's a big difference, and one that could change your purchasing decision.

根据各大论坛的测试，再Geekbench3的测试中， TSMC A9续航 7小时50分钟，得分4703. 三星续航6小时5分钟，得分3653.无论怎么看都是巨大的差异，可能改变你的购买决定。

How do you find out which A9 chip you have?
If you'd like the play the A9 chip lottery and work out which chip your phone uses, you'll need to download an app like Lirum Device Info Lite. As well as displaying all the usual model information, it'll also indicate if you have a Samsung or TSMC A9 chip.

如何找出你是什么芯片的A9？

要是你想试试自己的运气，可以下载Lirum Device INFO Lite软件。除了基本的部件信息也告诉你是三星还是TSMC的A9芯片

The code names for each are as follows.

芯片如下：

iPhone 6s Plus with Samsung chip – N66AP

6S加三星 N66AP

IPhone 6s with Samsung chip – N71AP

6S加三星 N71AP

iPhone 6s Plus with TSMC chip – N66mAP

6s plus加TSMC N66mAP

iPhone 6s with TSMC chip – N71mAP

6s加TSMC N71mAP

So why is this happening?

这是为什么发生的？

Some benchmarks have shown the Samsung A9 has another disadvantage: it runs a few degrees hotter. While this isn't good for your hand, it also suggests the Samsung A9 could be less efficient. Furthermore, John Poole of Primate Labs, the makers of Geekbench, told Macrumours that, while TSMC's 16-nanometer process could sip slightly more gently at the battery than Samsung's 14-nanometer process, it did not account for the big difference in battery life.

有些测试表明三星的A9芯片有另一个劣势，它温度高了几度。除了手感不好，可能显示三星A9不够有效率。 更多的是，Geekbench的发行方实验室说， TSMC的16纳米芯片比三星的14纳米可能对电池使用更温和，并不足以解释为何差异这么大。

Real-world uses and legal issues

实际使用和法律问题。

However, there is one important thing to remember. While benchmarks often try to emulate real-world usage, they may not account for features that help extract the longest battery life possible. Apple designs both its software and hardware, and it's possible that, in real-world usage, this software could nullify most of the difference.

但是实际生活中由于软件的作用，可能电池寿命差异没那么明显。

With such a discrepancy, Apple may have just entered a grey area in retail law. What would stop customers trading in their Samsung-equipped iPhone 6s for a TSMC one, just because of the benchmark figures? Worse still, what's to stop prospective iPhone 6s buyers checking the chip of their phones before purchasing?

这么明显的差异，苹果可能掉进一个消费者法的灰色地带。 如何组织消费者tradein 三星的A9换TSMC的A9？更糟糕的是，如何组织买家购买之前检查手机芯片？


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thundom

我怎么感觉三星把苹果玩了。。。棒子够阴的。 6s，还有plus都中招，要是真要从法律上可以换机，按照苹果的销量，简直要死翘翘。。。tmd几千万台。

alee79

产品交付苹果不验收吗？或者这个差异是在苹果允许范围之内？

thundom

alee79 发表于 2015-10-12 22:56
产品交付苹果不验收吗？或者这个差异是在苹果允许范围之内？

这个，只能怪库克太粗心大意了。。。

所以说是个很严重的问题，品控有问题，或者太急于上市捞钱。

苹果允许两种芯片同样情况下续航差距30%？那也是醉了。

鱼羊鲜

新闻爆出好几天了

garysu

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/iphone-6s-a9-battery-life/

Unless you find your iPhone dying halfway through your lunch break, though, don’t sweat it. Yes, the battery might crap out 2 or 3 percent sooner than the battery in the 6S held by the person sitting next to you. But that’s not a noticeable difference. “Actually,” volunteers Forrester’s Fichera, “I think getting two manufacturers within 2 to 3 percent is pretty good.”

陈叁

我的iPhone 6S+的CPU就是台积电代工的。用起来也没觉得有什么好或不好呀。不认为这个真的会有什么不同。

thundom

garysu 发表于 2015-10-12 23:13
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/iphone-6s-a9-battery-life/

Unless you find your iPhone dying halfway t ...

我的文是今天BIT邮件里收到的，根据文章的内容不是2-3 %，不然也不会叫annoying了。

当然我是转载，具体肯定苹果得出来澄清，公关，撕逼，就像大众。召回几千万台iphone和找几个大网站发发水贴，之间想想也知道苹果肯定不会束手就擒的。

具体发展静观其变好了。

thundom

陈叁 发表于 2015-10-12 23:19
我的iPhone 6S+的CPU就是台积电代工的。用起来也没觉得有什么好或不好呀。不认为这个真的会有什么不同。 ...

台积电是好的版本。

thundom

garysu 发表于 2015-10-12 23:13
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/iphone-6s-a9-battery-life/

Unless you find your iPhone dying halfway t ...

你可以去看看文章的comment，即使是美国的消费者也开始撕了。有人说很明显，有人说这是苹果的公关。

thundom

Stefan • 21 hours ago
"GeekBench is plenty helpful, but it’s typically used to measure processor performance, not battery life (though the two are obviously associated)."

Check your sources. GeekBench has a functionality that tests the battery performance of devices ("Run Battery Benchmark" test). And GeekBench recently put out a statement saying their battery benchmark test does, in fact, accurately reflect "real world" usage.

"There’s an exception to this. People who game intensively for hours on end will push their CPUs harder than an average user, in which case those hypothetical differences may become noticeable. Even then, though, it doesn’t appear that anyone has actually shared an example of it happening in real life."

Once again, check your sources. This guy (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... did a video exploring the differences to not only the battery life but also the time it took for each processor to complete certain tasks when shooting 4K video, exporting it to iMovie, and watching a video (some of which I think you can argue the "average user does). Extrapolating his data to going through a full charge, he found the Samsung processor saw 15-20% more battery drain than the TMSC one.

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Luke Hanson • a day ago
I wonder how much Apple paid WIRED to write this article lmao /s

thundom

Bilibala Bon • 2 days ago
How much did Apple Pay you to write this CRAP?

Shoot 4K videos for a while, or use google map to nevagiate, both are normal use, not lab test, anyone can easily find different battery drain between TSMC and Samsung version iPhone 6s, it's not only 2~3% difference. Try it before writing something like this.
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scud42  Bilibala Bon • a day ago
Here's a great youtube video that does exactly https://youtu.be/pXmIQJMDv68

malazhumao

这事儿我就不告诉我老婆了。蒙在鼓里挺好，用的挺happy,说了反而upset。。。。

samtheexpert

澳洲大部分都是TSMC的 16微米工艺
三星是14微米工艺
搞不懂为啥TSMC厉害点

thundom

身边有用iphone 6S的处女座的朋友的要小心，千万不要让他们知道。

garysu

thundom 发表于 2015-10-12 23:24
我的文是今天BIT邮件里收到的，根据文章的内容不是2-3 %，不然也不会叫annoying了。

当然我是转载，具体 ...

关于发表时间，Geekbench3测试不同芯片的新闻并不是这一两天的，只不过有的媒体现在才发

thundom

garysu 发表于 2015-10-13 00:00
关于发表时间，Geekbench3测试不同芯片的新闻并不是这一两天的，只不过有的媒体现在才发 ...

哦这个样子

cloud226

苹果说的2%-3%是在“正常使用“情况下的耗电区别 如果在CPU高负荷下 三星和台积电的功耗区别确实可以有很大的区别

刚爆出三星台积电两种CPU的时候 我手头2台6s刚好一个三星的一个台积电的 然后做了一个简单的评测 结果确实让人吃惊 http://bbs.feng.com/read-htm-tid-9933335.html

john420

澳洲基本都应该是台积电的芯片吧？

thundom

john420 发表于 2015-10-13 15:53
澳洲基本都应该是台积电的芯片吧？

你得问库克

kevsl

有人遇到这问题了？还只是传闻？

silvers

HOHO,手里的6s+是台积电的

gifox

thundom 发表于 2015-10-12 23:01
这个，只能怪库克太粗心大意了。。。

所以说是个很严重的问题，品控有问题，或者太急于上市捞钱。

那个是非常极端情况下的。有人做过日常使用测试，差距小多了。

cindy1000

幸亏还没有入手，不用烦恼这个问题

thundom

gifox 发表于 2015-10-13 21:14
那个是非常极端情况下的。有人做过日常使用测试，差距小多了。

没用过不清楚，不过楼上有人做过测试差距少说得有10%。  具体要看三星芯片用户的想法了，花同样的钱，发热大续航短，resale价格低。

tramplady

cloud226 发表于 2015-10-13 00:12
苹果说的2%-3%是在“正常使用“情况下的耗电区别 如果在CPU高负荷下 三星和台积电的功耗区别确实可以有很大 ...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iphone-6s-a9-samsung-vs-tsmc,30306.html

这次"门"比较奇怪，所有其他测试反而显示三星的有优势，　唯一出妖蛾子的是ｇｅｅｋｂｅｎｃｈ自身的ｂａｔｔｅｒｙ　ｔｅｓｔ，　也是这次的风暴中心。

yl19

完全不擔心
因為沒錢入手
到底該哭還是該笑

jiang0715

我的plus台积电的 我安心了

thundom

tramplady 发表于 2015-10-14 17:45
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iphone-6s-a9-samsung-vs-tsmc,30306.html

这次"门"比较奇怪，所有其 ...

你没仔细看吧，你贴的文章里面其他测试也有差10%的