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[会计] 分分急问 FBT-LAFHA 的问题 [复制链接]

发表于 2014-6-3 21:45 |显示全部楼层
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以下是去年的资料。我们公司工资里付了LAFH allowance 给员工。但会计 说不用付FBT。我百思不得其解。请高手指点一下吧。明天就要交报告了。


  Name
  
   LAFHA paid
  
   $320 per day
  
  
Weeks
  
   $70 award entitlement
  
  
Weeks
  
  Title
  
  A
  
   $          595.60
  
          1.86
  
  
0
  
                   8.51
  
  
1
  
  
  
  B
  
   $          446.70
  
          1.40
  
  
0
  
                   6.38
  
  
1
  
  
  
  C
  
   $      1,340.10
  
          4.19
  
  
1
  
                 19.14
  
  
3
  
  
  
  D
  
   $          670.05
  
          2.09
  
  
0
  
                   9.57
  
  
1
  
  
  
  E
  
   $      7,099.11
  
        22.18
  
  
3
  
              101.42
  
  
14
  
  
  
  F
  
   $      5,062.60
  
        15.82
  
  
2
  
                 72.32
  
  
10
  
  
  
  G
  
   $      3,682.31
  
        11.51
  
  
2
  
                 52.60
  
  
8
  
  
  
  H
  
   $      2,903.55
  
          9.07
  
  
1
  
                 41.48
  
  
6
  
  
  
  I
  
   $      2,421.05
  
          7.57
  
  
1
  
                 34.59
  
  
5
  
  
  
  J
  
   $      2,007.58
  
          6.27
  
  
1
  
                 28.68
  
  
4
  
  
  
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发表于 2014-6-3 22:10 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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To determine LAFHA exemption amount, you need to
First : determining whether the employees leaving away from home or travelling
Second: Are they  fly in fly out or LAFHA for a fixed term
Third: is LAFhA offered to cover accommodation or food or both
.............
And many more other facts to consider to determine the tax treatment of LAFHA
Note, FBT ruling for LAFHA was changed from 1 Oct 2012

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发表于 2014-6-3 22:33 |显示全部楼层
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Yue72 发表于 2014-6-3 21:10
To determine LAFHA exemption amount, you need to
First : determining whether the employees leaving  ...

以上就是去年全部的workpaper. 能否指点一下这张表 谢谢了

发表于 2014-6-4 00:52 |显示全部楼层
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Yue72 发表于 2014-6-3 21:10
To determine LAFHA exemption amount, you need to
First : determining whether the employees leaving  ...


Oct 2012之后有一个12个月的期限。是什么意思呢? 如果LAFHA paid 的期间不超过12个月就可以免FBT吗?

比如, ROB is seconded to another location for 9 months. And he get paid of LAFHA for 9 months which is $4500. 我的问题是公司需要为这$4500付FBT吗?
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发表于 2014-6-4 11:16 |显示全部楼层
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wlu 发表于 2014-6-3 23:52
Oct 2012之后有一个12个月的期限。是什么意思呢? 如果LAFHA paid 的期间不超过12个月就可以免FBT吗?

...


从我以前的记忆里如果paid out的LAFHA是4500。其中可以减免的是employee真正花在食物和住宿上的支出,必须要附receipt。 改了后12个月就是说,超过这12个月是全部taxbale,少于12个月,其中employee真正的支出可以作为reduction value。实际上报的就是4500 - employee actual expense = XXX

我理解是这样的。有大神知道的话希望有错纠正下。很少有机会接触LAFHA的东西,很想知道处理方法。。。谢谢

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发表于 2014-6-4 21:18 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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Why all LAFHA payments are for less than 21 days? Are you sure they are not travel allowance  in nature although they sometimes are named as LAFHA in EBA agreement
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发表于 2014-6-4 21:20 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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Based on you spreadsheet , noone can tell you whether they are Fbtable as there are so many information missing

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In addition, if the payment is travel allowance in nature, its not subject to FBT, but may need to be taxed in employees hand. Some income tax exemption  may apply

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发表于 2014-6-4 23:18 |显示全部楼层
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Yue72 发表于 2014-6-4 20:28
In addition, if the payment is travel allowance in nature, its not subject to FBT, but may need to b ...

谢谢 明天我去和payroll 确认一下。表很大最长的是六周。

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Yue72 发表于 2014-6-4 20:18
Why all LAFHA payments are for less than 21 days? Are you sure they are not travel allowance  in nat ...

请指点一下 啥是EBA?

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亚雷特 发表于 2014-6-4 10:16
从我以前的记忆里如果paid out的LAFHA是4500。其中可以减免的是employee真正花在食物和住宿上的支出,必 ...

看这么多小数点的 没什么整数 不象allowance 到像是reimbursement
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你看一下具体LAFHA都包括的是什么,就是在前面同学说的EBA里面
有可能包含accommodation,food,out of pocket expense
food我记得好像是233一周以下是tax free,accommodation分职位,前两种要receipt并且需要员工填表
最后的pocket exp基本上都taxable

再考虑进去前面同学提过的12mth transition period
基本上就这样子了

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发表于 2014-6-5 00:04 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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EBA is Enterprise Bargainning Agreement

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zippo0307 发表于 2014-6-4 22:36
你看一下具体LAFHA都包括的是什么,就是在前面同学说的EBA里面
有可能包含accommodation,food,out of poc ...

谢谢。只要请问有链接吗?关于$230的,还有职位有关的住宿的?

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发表于 2014-9-10 12:10 |显示全部楼层
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There are basically two steps when dealing with LAFHA at the time of FBT return.

1.        Determine whether the payment qualifies for LAFHA exemption. With the dramatic reform effective from 1 October 2012, the LAFHA exemption is now very limited. Generally, the employee must living away from usual place of residence due to employment duty. So permanent relocation does not qualify, such as an overseas employee applies PR in Australia. The employee must have an “owned” home elsewhere in Australia for immediately use. That means the accommodation cannot be under parents’ name, cannot be rent out when living away from home. Literally, no overseas employees such as 457 visa holders will have this type of arrangement.

The employment contract should be specific regarding the payment that is to compensate the employee for the inconvenience. It is also recommended to state that the employee will be offer a position in the office near the usual place of residence once the assignment is conducted. Keeping silent in the contract about the nature of the payment may lead to the LAFHA exemption being invalid.

The new LAFHA exemption only applies for 12 months per location. 12 months is the total period and can be paused when the employee is on holiday. The law does not define “location” but the ATO expressed that suburbs like Sydney CBD and North Sydney will be treated as one location, so simply moving office within the same  municipal will not qualify.

2.        Once you determine the LAFHA exemption may apply, the second step is to find out the THREE components of the payment: accommodation, food and beverage, and all others. No exemption for all others so if the employment contract does not state the components, the exemption is hanging on the edge.

The accommodation is entirely exemption, if the total figure is substantiated. No limit about the figure. If no rental agreement, there will be no exemption and the payment is fully taxable.

The food component is complicate. Refer to this TD http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/vie ... AT%2FATO%2F00001%22

If the employer is paying a total amount of $236 per week for one single employee, the exemption will be $236-$42, where the $42 is statutory amount for an adult. If the employer is paying only the amount on top of $42 up to the reasonable cap (must be specific in the contract), i.e. $236-$42=$194, the entire amount is exempt.

If the employer is paying a total amount more than $236 per week, the excessive amount will be subject to FBT as well. Say the employer pays $250 per week, the taxable amount is ($250-$236) + $42 = $56 per week. If the employee can provide substantiation for all $250, the taxable amount will be reduced to $42 per week. The reasonable cap is the amount that no substantiation is required. You can still go over and get higher exemption.

To sum up, regardless how much your employer has paid to an employee, after determining the exemption can apply, you need to split the payment into these three categories. If no description, too bad as it may not enjoy the exemption. They apply the exemption based on substantiation and contract.

It is too late for 2013/14 return, but let me know if you need to submit an amendment. And you may suggest your boss to review LAFHA due to 12 months restriction.

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21 days is an indication of LAFHA vs Travel Allowance but not conclusive. MT 2030 is a good guide in this case. http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/vie ... T2030/NAT/ATO/00001

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