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[行情讨论] 以前Camberwell & Boxhill的房价跟Ringwood是差不多的 [复制链接]

发表于 2011-3-26 19:42 |显示全部楼层
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原来以前Camberwell & Boxhill的房价跟Ringwood是差不多的。 。但现在要翻几倍了。 。 。

http://theage.domain.com.au/home-investor-centre/be-a-part-of-the-new-wave-20110325-1c9r0.html

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March 26, 2011 - 4:46AM
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Prices in cheaper suburbs rise off the back of more expensive areas. Photo: Virginia Star
Learn to ride the ripple effect to maximise your property profits.

Tim Fletcher believes in the ‘‘ripple effect’’. ‘‘It’s the most powerful driver of all in determining why suburbs increase in value,’’ the director of Fletchers Real Estate says.

What he means is that more buoyant housing conditions in upmarket suburbs eventually spread to adjoining lower-priced suburbs and then throughout the city.

Buyers and investors can exploit this trend if they stay ahead of the pack. One strategy is to give a wide berth to the best suburbs, where house prices are already sky-high, and instead look for good properties in the next-best areas.

In these areas you’re more likely to find wellpriced properties and you may achieve a high rate of capital growth.

You might be too late, though, Mr Fletcher says. The ripple effect has already swept though and changed the market in many areas of Melbourne.

‘‘A year or so ago, if you were looking at Surrey Hills or Camberwell, you could buy in Burwood pretty cheaply,’’ he says. ‘‘Now Burwood has changed and you have to move to another  suburb further out."

I think people underestimate the significance of the ripple effect. So many people aspire to live in a suburb of their choice and they can’t be accommodated. They end up having to go
elsewhere and that usually means moving further out.’’

Burwood isn’t an isolated case. Prices are now quite high in many middle-ring suburbs. This makes it harder to pinpoint areas that may be set to rise, though some property observers believe the ripple effect also works in reverse — when buyers, for instance, give up on the ‘‘pricey’’ middle ring and switch to buying ‘‘quality’’ in the inner city.

Others maintain it is a market influence at any stage of the property cycle. The same pattern can be seen in Melbourne’s west. Prices in Yarraville, Newport and Seddon have moved on the back of Williamstown’s rise.

Similarly, the evergreen popularity of Brighton has fired demand in Brighton East, Hampton and Sandringham. The best way to identify outperforming suburbs and the next best suburbs that haven’t yet surged is to analyse price data, available on the internet.

Many investors search out suburbs that have, in the past year, under-performed their five year growth averages. If these suburbs adjoin others with higher growth rates in the past year, they may be set to boom.

Phil de Fegely, a property advisor with MGI Melbourne, says buyers should check that a freeway is not about to slice through an area before they invest. You should also check whether shopping centres or schools are earmarked for closure.

‘‘That could affect the demographics of the area,’’ Mr de Fegely says. ‘‘But if you are backing on to a suburb that has some growth in it, you would think the neighbouring suburbs would also grow in a reasonable amount of time.’’

The ripple effect swept to prominence following the recession of the early 1990s. While many households have benefited from the surge in prices, low and moderate income earners are being priced out, according to Swinburne University housing studies academics, Terry Burke and Kath Hulse.

In a new study, the two compare house prices in real terms in 1981 and 2009 in five corridors of Melbourne, each stretching from the inner city to the outer suburbs. Dr Burke says that in 1981 prices were relatively flat for the entire length of each of the corridors.

For  example, prices in Ringwood were similar to those in Box Hill or Camberwell but, by 2009, prices in the inner to middle-ring suburbs were considerably higher than those in outer areas.

He says lower-income households in 1981 were able to buy into a large segment of the market but can now only afford to buy in a tiny segment: ‘‘What sits behind the ripple effect is that any low- or medium-income household has to move, either [to outer suburbs] or switch to a different type of accommodation,’’ he says.

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发表于 2011-3-27 15:15 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-3-27 20:44 |显示全部楼层
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1980年的时候3万澳元和4万澳元还是差很多的,相当于现在75万和100万之间的差距。

发表于 2011-3-28 00:03 |显示全部楼层
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以前没什么意义了,关键是现在。。。

发表于 2011-3-28 10:51 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 training 于 2011-3-28 00:03 发表
以前没什么意义了,关键是现在。。。


那以前都发生过的事, 现在一定还有这样的情况, 可能不是在墨尔本, 可能其他城市也有这样的情况及潜力, 大家觉得看好哪一个城市?!

发表于 2011-3-28 14:38 |显示全部楼层
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专家的The ripple effect, 其实就是the difference inner ct & outer ct roughly~~economic paper 可以总结这个trend, 可是不能准确预测trend

其实我觉得这个是很长线的~~30年的develop plan, 30年前的话, Camberwell & Boxhill跟Ringwood的infrastracture, traffic condition, population density&civil facility差不多, 所以地价可能也差不多, 可是一develop起来就不一样了...人口的增长幅度让内城和外城的概念模糊

举个例子, richmond以前的难民楼很多, 价格也和sth yarra差很远, 可是和springvale也是一样的, 可是今天richmond的房价像火箭一样起来了, springvale相比之下动了很小, 为神马richmond以前离CT最近房价最低, kew&sth yarra到现在OVERALL还是比richmond贵, 可是比richmond离CT的距离更远, 这个是social issue, ecomomic ripple effect好象not applicable

按这种理念发展的话, DARWIN, HOBERT将会是hot spot, 瓶颈是人口增长和交通~~
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发表于 2011-6-12 23:27 |显示全部楼层
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听鬼佬说以前真的是差不多,以前离市中心远近意义可能没现在那么大吧,主要是看房子怎么样,现在离市中心远近成为影响房子价格的第一要素

发表于 2011-6-13 01:03 |显示全部楼层
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springvale增长的一点也不少,用我一个老外朋友的话说,springvale wakes up. 我感觉从潜力讲springvale会很好!

发表于 2011-6-14 23:14 |显示全部楼层
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始终不看好Springvale,不管它怎么建,都感觉乱哄哄,买买菜还可以,买房子就算了。
就算只是买投资房,也得买个顺眼的

发表于 2011-6-15 00:51 |显示全部楼层

回复 philguo 8# 帖子

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算了把, springvale滴血统导致拉它不可能WAKE UP~~springvale确实没涨多少, 地价太便宜拉~~~~自住滴话治安很差比CLAYTON还要乱, 比FOOTSCRAY好一点而已, 就是买菜方便,   LOCAL FACILITY不够, 投资滴话也不好, 租金很不理想, 升幅也不多~~有朋友在springvale几年前买了一个地大滴烂HOUSE, 也没涨多少~~上一年也有朋友在springvale买了一个4 BEDROOMS BRAND NEW TOWNHOUSE, 才40多W~~~可想而知哪里有多贵~~

发表于 2011-6-15 00:55 |显示全部楼层
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哎。有啥呢。不说81年,就95年,Balwyn的房子才多少钱呀。10几万能买到的。现在10多万,能买啥呢?别比了,越比越气死人的事。
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