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[法规和安全] 没有左转右转only的丁字路口,左道能右转吗? [复制链接]

发表于 2018-1-31 11:12 |显示全部楼层
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harleyz 发表于 2018-1-31 09:50
你可以在右道右转进左道,也可以右道右转进右道再变道,但是不能在左道右转 ...


在右道右转进左道,也可以右道右转进右道再变道

距离太短,旁边的车又要竖中指,而且在弯道变线更易出事
是否赞赏,并不影响交流
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harleyz 发表于 2018-1-31 10:54
还有,如果住正对面那家的在右道直行和你撞了算谁的?

很简单,转弯的要让直行,
如果他聪明,减少出事机会,就应该占左道,绿灯亮(只有左转灯时不动)才直行。,唉,又是找骂的,不过真的不违规
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众生丸 发表于 2018-1-31 12:12
在右道右转进左道,也可以右道右转进右道再变道

距离太短,旁边的车又要竖中指,而且在弯道变线更易出事 ...

地上弯道没线!不存在弯道变线这一说。你的交规估计要重考了
敌羞,吾去脱她衣

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众生丸 发表于 2018-1-31 12:18
很简单,转弯的要让直行,
如果他聪明,减少出事机会,就应该占左道,绿灯亮(只有左转灯时不动)才直行 ...

“应该占左道,绿灯亮(只有左转灯时不动)才直行”

左道后面的一排车真得要竖中指了
敌羞,吾去脱她衣

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skylineau 发表于 2018-1-31 11:20
地上弯道没线!不存在弯道变线这一说。你的交规估计要重考了

开车很多都只是common sense。 都是双车道的路,没画虚线不代表双车并行(或并排转弯)是错,很多繁忙的路都是这样,司机自己把握好安全速度和距离。但这个如果是繁忙路口,应该画线,增加标记减少事故发生。
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发表于 2018-1-31 11:43 |显示全部楼层
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众生丸 发表于 2018-1-31 12:35
开车很多都只是common sense。 都是双车道的路,没画虚线不代表双车并行(或并排转弯)是错,很多繁忙的 ...

如果你要说common sense,那就不应该说出 “应该占左道,绿灯亮(只有左转灯时不动)才直行” 这种话,你要继续坚持你的观点可以,good luck bro。
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众生丸 发表于 2018-1-31 12:12
在右道右转进左道,也可以右道右转进右道再变道

距离太短,旁边的车又要竖中指,而且在弯道变线更易出事 ...

Multi Lane turning rule 本来是很清晰,大家遵守一个路规,而不是想当然,才不容易出事。

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两条lane,右转必须靠右lane。除非地上画箭头可以转

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没有左转箭头,右道不能左转,反之亦然
找个专业教练好好学一下路权概念。

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这种参照双线的roundabout吧,右道右转,左道左转直行

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goaiai 发表于 2018-1-31 21:53
这种参照双线的roundabout吧,右道右转,左道左转直行

我理解右道也能直行,只不过只能直行进对面那家driveway
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这种是默认左转啊

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至少在vic,丁字路口转大路双车道,右道必须右转进右道,左道左转或直行既右转进左道,除非地上有箭头或有路牌标志左道左转only。

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当然可以, 你就把内道的车碾着过弯就行了。

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竟然有那么多人说可以!

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woshixinren 发表于 2018-1-30 23:21
默认?那为什么很多地方又写牌子了?

Left lane must turn left

是本车道只能左转,不可以直行

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不能右转。如果他右转你可以左转,反正地上也没写右道不能左转(按他的理论,左道没说不能右转)

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就是不可以,但是有很多神经病的经常左道右转,还滴人。我家门口就有个这样的路口。
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众生丸 发表于 2018-1-31 09:21
不违规,如果是住这个房子要回家,或者前一点马上要再左转弯,肯定是靠左线。
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图示这个绝对不可以。左道可以右转的路口,转弯处两道中间有虚线分隔
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太离谱了,居然路上跑着这么多不懂交规的人。
这种路口,地上没有标示的,左道只能左转,右道只能右转。

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BIOLOGY 发表于 2018-4-9 15:42
就是不可以,但是有很多神经病的经常左道右转,还滴人。我家门口就有个这样的路口。 ...

直接把左道右转的车撞翻,你可以换新车了,他因全赔偿。

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billyugex 发表于 2018-4-9 18:04
直接把左道右转的车撞翻,你可以换新车了,他因全赔偿。

如果不是我孩子在车上我就撞他。

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守望者 发表于 2018-4-9 16:22
太离谱了,居然路上跑着这么多不懂交规的人。
这种路口,地上没有标示的,左道只能左转,右道只能右转。 ...

是的。特意去查了下NSW Road Rule,没有标记,左道不能右转是毫无疑问的。

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... /part4/div2/rule.32
32   Starting a right turn from a multi-lane road
(1)  A driver turning right at an intersection from a multi-lane road must approach and enter the intersection from within the right lane unless:
(a)  the driver is required or permitted to approach and enter the intersection from within another marked lane in accordance with rule 89 (1), 92 or 159, or
(b)  the driver is turning, at B lights or traffic arrows, in accordance with Division 2 of Part 17, or
(c)  subrule (2) applies to the driver.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note 1. B lights, intersection, marked lane, multi-lane road, public bus and traffic arrows are defined in the Dictionary, and right lane is defined in subrule (3).
Note 2. Rule 89 (1) deals with right turn only signs, rule 92 deals with traffic lane arrows, and rule 159 deals with traffic signs requiring particular kinds of vehicles to drive in an indicated marked lane.
Note 3. Division 2 of Part 17 provides for priority to be given to public buses at intersections with B lights or a white traffic arrow.
Example for subrule (1) (a).
Starting a right turn on a multi-lane road with traffic lane arrows as required or permitted under rule 92
(2)  A driver may approach and enter the intersection from the marked lane next to the right lane as well as, or instead of, the right lane if:
(a)  the driver’s vehicle, together with any load or projection, is 7.5 metres long, or longer, and
(b)  the vehicle displays a do not overtake turning vehicle sign, and
(c)  any part of the vehicle is within 50 metres of the nearest point of the intersection, and
(d)  it is not practicable for the driver to turn right from within the right lane, and
(e)  the driver can safely occupy the next marked lane and can safely turn right at the intersection by occupying the next marked lane, or both lanes.
Note 1. Driver’s vehicle is defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Vehicle includes a combination—see rule 15 (d).
Note 3. Rule 316–2 makes it an offence for a do not overtake turning vehicle sign to be displayed on the rear of a motor vehicle or a trailer attached to a motor vehicle unless the vehicle is, or the vehicle and trailer together are, 7.5 metres or more in length.
(2A)  If there is a bicycle storage area before an intersection that extends across one or more marked lanes of a multi-lane road, a rider of a bicycle turning right (but not making a hook turn) must approach and enter the intersection from within the part of the bicycle storage area that is directly in front of the right marked lane or of a bicycle lane that is on the right side of the road.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. Bicycle storage area is defined in the Dictionary.
(3)  In this rule:
marked lane, for a driver, does not include a special purpose lane in which the driver is not permitted to drive.
right lane means:
(a)  the marked lane nearest to the dividing line or median strip on the road, or
(b)  if there is an obstruction (for example, a parked car or roadworks) in that marked lane—the marked lane nearest to that marked lane that is not obstructed.
Note 1. Dividing line, median strip, obstruction and special purpose lane are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Rule 95 deals with driving in an emergency stopping lane and Part 11, Division 6 deals with driving in other special purpose lanes.

Do not overtake turning vehicle signs


Note 1 for diagrams. These signs are displayed on certain long vehicles.
Note 2 for diagrams. These signs must comply with the size requirements set out in rule 316–1.


https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... /part8/div1/rule.89
89   Right turn signs
(1)  If there is a right turn only sign at an intersection, a driver must turn right at the intersection.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. For the meaning of right, see rule 351 (2).
(2)  If there is a right lane must turn right sign at an intersection, a driver who is in the right marked lane when entering the intersection must turn right at the intersection.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. Marked lane is defined in the Dictionary.
(3)  In this rule:
turn right does not include make a U-turn.
Note. U-turn is defined in the Dictionary.

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... /part8/div1/rule.92
92   Traffic lane arrows
(1)  If a driver is driving in a marked lane at an intersection (except a roundabout) and there are traffic lane arrows applying to the lane, the driver must:
(a)  if the arrows indicate a single direction—drive in that direction, or
(b)  if the arrows indicate 2 or more directions—drive in one of those directions.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note 1. Marked lane and traffic lane arrows are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Part 9 deals with traffic lane arrows at roundabouts.
Note 3. Rule 329 explains when a traffic control device applies to a marked lane.
(2)  However, this rule does not apply to a driver if:
(a)  the arrows indicate a direction to the right (whether or not they also indicate another direction) at an intersection and the driver is making a U-turn at the intersection, or
(b)  a traffic sign indicates that the driver may drive in a direction different to that indicated by the traffic lane arrows, or
(c)  the driver is driving in the direction indicated by traffic lane arrows that apply to 1 or more marked lanes and there is an obstruction in each of those lanes, or
(d)  the driver is turning at an intersection in accordance with rule 28 (2) or 32 (2).
Note 1. Obstruction and U-turn are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Rules 40 and 41 deal with making a U-turn at an intersection. If there are traffic lights at the intersection, the driver may make a U-turn only if there is a U-turn permitted sign at the intersection. If there are no traffic lights at the intersection, the driver may make a U-turn unless there is a no U-turn sign at the intersection.
Note 3. Rule 28 (2) deals with vehicles 7.5 metres long or longer turning left at an intersection from within the marked lane next to the left lane as well as, or instead of, the left lane on a multi-lane road. Rule 32 (2) deals with vehicles 7.5 metres long or longer turning right at an intersection from within the marked lane next to the right lane as well as, or instead of, the right lane on a multi-lane road.
Examples.
Example 1Traffic lane arrows on the surface of marked lanes
Example 2Traffic lane arrows on a traffic sign
(3)  The existence of a bicycle storage area in a marked lane does not alter a driver’s obligation to comply with this rule.
Note. Bicycle storage area is defined in the Dictionary.

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... art11/div6/rule.159
159   Marked lanes required to be used by particular kinds of vehicles
(1)  If information on or with a traffic sign applying to a length of road indicates that a vehicle of a particular kind must drive in a particular marked lane, a driver driving a vehicle of that kind on the length of road must drive in the indicated lane, unless the driver is:
(a)  avoiding an obstruction, or
(b)  obeying a traffic control device applying to the indicated lane, or
(c)  permitted to drive in the indicated lane and also another marked lane under another provision of these Rules or under another law of this jurisdiction, or
(d)  intending to turn off the road or to make a U-turn, and in order to do so safely without disrupting other vehicles on the road it is necessary to position the vehicle in another lane before starting the turn, or to make the turn.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note 1. Length of road, marked lane, obstruction, traffic control device, traffic sign and with are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. An overhead lane control device may require a driver to leave a marked lane—see rule 152.
Note 3. Drivers of certain long vehicles are permitted to use 2 marked lanes when turning at an intersection—see rule 28 (left turns) and rule 32 (right turns).
(2)  A traffic sign mentioned in this rule that is on a road applies to the length of road beginning at the sign and ending at the nearest of the following:
(a)  a traffic sign or road marking on the road that indicates that the first traffic sign no longer applies,
(b)  the next intersection on the road,
(c)  if the road ends at a T-intersection or dead end—the end of the road.
Note 1. Intersection, road marking, T-intersection and traffic sign are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Rule 322 (1) and (2) deal with the meaning of a traffic sign on a road.
Examples of a traffic sign mentioned in the rule and a traffic sign indicating that the first traffic sign no longer applies.
Trucks use left lane sign
End trucks use left lane sign
Note for diagrams. There are other permitted versions of these signs—see the diagrams in Schedule 3.

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... 014/758/part17/div2
Division 2 Public buses
Note. B lights and public bus are defined in the Dictionary.
280   Application of Division
(1)  This Division applies to the driver of a public bus who is driving in a bus lane.
Note. The rules in Division 1 of this Part apply to drivers of public buses travelling along tram tracks—see rule 273.
(2)  This Division applies to the driver of a vehicle other than a public bus, in the same way as it applies to the driver of a public bus, if:
(a)  the vehicle being driven by the driver is in a class of vehicles specified for this rule by another law of this jurisdiction, and
(b)  the driver is driving in a bus lane to which B lights apply, and
(c)  the driver is permitted to drive in the lane under another law of this jurisdiction.
(2–1)  This Division applies to the driver of an authorised T-Way vehicle in the same way as it applies to the driver of a public bus who is driving in a bus lane, if the driver is driving in or entering a T-Way lane to which B lights apply.
Note 1. B lights is defined in the Dictionary, and authorised T-Way vehicle and T-Way lane are defined in rule 157–1.
Note 2. This subrule is an additional NSW subrule. There is no corresponding subrule in rule 280 of the Australian Road Rules.
281   Stopping for a red B light
The driver of a public bus approaching or at B lights showing a red B light must stop:
(a)  if there is a stop line at or near the B lights—as near as practicable to, but before reaching, the stop line, or
(b)  if there is no stop line at or near the B lights—as near as practicable to, but before reaching, the nearest or only B lights.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note 1. Red B light and stop line are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Rule 283 explains when the driver of a public bus does not have to stop for a red B light.
282   Stopping for a yellow B light
The driver of a public bus approaching or at B lights showing a yellow B light must stop:
(a)  if there is a stop line at or near the B lights and the driver can stop safely before reaching the stop line—as near as practicable to, but before reaching, the stop line, or
(b)  if there is no stop line at or near the B lights and the driver can stop safely before reaching the B lights—as near as practicable to, but before reaching, the nearest or only B lights.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note 1. Yellow B light and stop line are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Rule 283 explains when the driver of a public bus does not have to stop for a yellow B light.
283   Exception to stopping for a red or yellow B light
The driver of a public bus approaching or at B lights showing a red or yellow B light does not have to stop if a white traffic arrow is also showing and the driver is turning in the direction indicated by the arrow.
Note. Red B light, white traffic arrow and yellow B light are defined in the Dictionary.
284   Proceeding after stopping for a red or yellow B light
The driver of a public bus who stops for B lights showing a red or yellow B light must not proceed until:
(a)  a white B light is showing, or
(b)  no B light is showing and traffic lights at or near the B lights are showing a green traffic light.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. Green traffic light, red B light, traffic lights, white B light and yellow B light are defined in the Dictionary. A diagram of a white B light is shown in rule 285.
285   Proceeding when a red traffic light and a white B light or white traffic arrow is showing
(1)  The driver of a public bus approaching or at a white B light at or near traffic lights showing a red traffic light may proceed straight ahead, or turn, despite the red traffic light.
Note. Red traffic light, straight ahead, traffic lights and white B light are defined in the Dictionary.
(2)  The driver of a public bus approaching or at a white traffic arrow at or near traffic lights showing a red traffic light may turn in the direction indicated by the arrow, despite the red traffic light.
Note. White traffic arrow is defined in the Dictionary.

White B light
286   Proceeding when a white B light or white traffic arrow is no longer showing
(1)  This rule applies to:
(a)  the driver of a public bus at an intersection with B lights showing a white B light who has stopped after the stop line, or nearest or only B lights, at the intersection, or
(b)  the driver of a public bus at an intersection with traffic arrows showing a white traffic arrow who is turning in the direction indicated by the arrow and has stopped after the stop line, or nearest or only traffic arrows, at the intersection.
Example. The driver of a public bus may stop after the stop line at an intersection with B lights showing a white B light, and not proceed through the intersection, because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked by traffic.
Note. Intersection, stop line, traffic arrows, white B light and white traffic arrow are defined in the Dictionary.
(2)  If the B lights or traffic arrows change to yellow or red, or turn off, while the driver is stopped and the driver has not entered the intersection, the driver must not proceed until:
(a)  a white B light is showing, or
(b)  there is no B light showing, and traffic lights at or near the B lights are showing a green traffic light, or
(c)  if the driver is turning at the intersection—a white traffic arrow is showing that indicates the direction in which the driver is turning.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. Enter, green traffic light, red traffic arrow and yellow traffic arrow are defined in the Dictionary.
(3)  If the B lights or traffic arrows change to yellow or red, or turn off, while the driver is stopped and the driver has entered the intersection, the driver must leave the intersection as soon as the driver can do so safely.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

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