有关航空管制的问题

claxton

我想学航空交通管制（塔台）这类的专业，在TAFE里有吗，还是需要到大学里去读，请有经验的TZ帮忙给指条路，谢谢

fina

我也想从事航空方面的工作~

Guevara4Ever

这个以后就业英文是个卡吧

whisper

Air Traffic Control,
I don't think TAFE offers this course, I suggest you check with uni like UNSW, UTS

inferencemel

You can't enroll in such courses. They don't take application directly. The correct path is:
You need to apply through Airservices Australia (AU government air/flight control agency) for the air traffic control job. If you are hired, they send you to study and come back to work. So in other words, this is not something that you can just study by yourself and apply for related job, it actually works the other way around.

Not to discourage you, the chance of succeed in this path is very small. I actually applied once, passed the exams (online and testing center), but failed interview.
For exams (online and testing center), You need to be very good with maths (not advanced math, but you need to be very good  and fast with mental calculation), and have very good sense of distance/shape etc. Most importantly you need be able to handle multiple tasks at the same time (i.e if you are good at using your left hand to draw a square and your right hand to draw a triangle at the same time etc.). Also good at video games, such as air traffic simulations etc.

Even if you passed all the exams, unless you are native speaker, you won't pass the interview. The guy who interview me told me that: Because you will be talking to pilots and whatever you said could affect pilots' decision making and all life/death of all the people on board the plane, they just only take native speakers.

whisper

I cannot agree more.

ATC is very critical position in air safety, there was a mid-air crash in Mel in Oct. or Nov. (cannot really remember), they reckoned the indian pilot was killed because he failed to communicate with ATC.

If you are really interested in this industry, you can choose to be either a pilot or LAME (or AME). the career path would be:

Professional Pilot: spend 25K to get a PPL (private pilot licence) then start working for flying schools to accumulate your flying hours, as soon as you reach 1500 hours, you can work for regional airlines, over 3000 hours, you can expect to work for Qantas, if over 10000 hours, you can be expected to be paid $250K annually;
If you can join, air force, they will train you all free of charge.

LAME or AME:  you can do an engineering degree at UNI (maybe TAFE?), or start apprenticeship with MRO company, around 3 years, you can take exams organized by CASA, if you pass, you can expect to be paid around $30-150 per hour.

I have been in this industry for 4 years and should you need more info, I would be more than happy to assist.

it's estimated an increasingly demand for pilot and LAME in next 20 years.

rogerk

原帖由 whisper 于 2008-12-24 17:49 发表
I cannot agree more.

Professional Pilot: spend 25K to get a PPL (private pilot licence)

PPL需要25k吗？我怎么看到PPL只要10k多一点点就可以了，你说的这个是不是包括了所有的instrument rating的？

另外，有足够的hours以后，还得再考commercial license才能为航空公司干吧？

whisper

原帖由 rogerk 于 2008-12-24 18:42 发表


PPL需要25k吗？我怎么看到PPL只要10k多一点点就可以了，你说的这个是不是包括了所有的instrument rating的？

Basically it takes about 50 hours @250.00 per hour to get a PPL licence, but with 100 hours training, you would feel more comfortable with flying.

另外，有足够的hours以后，还得再考commercial license才能为航空公司干吧？

Correct.

yz3183

I don’t agree with you, even I think you are wrong regarding the career path to be an Air Traffic Controller of Australia!!

Pls note that what LZ asked is how to become an Air Traffic Controller of Australia, neither a Professional Pilot, nor a LAME or AME. To be a Professional Pilot you need to get a PPL; To be a LAME or AME you need to obtain your LAME or AME license (or CAO 100.66 – Maintenance authorities in future); To be an ATC Controller you need to obtain your ATC license.

If you got a PPL you may have the chance to transfer to ATC but you still need to attend lots of exams, and this is not the common way, because once you have PPL why do you want to slip back to be an ATC, a vocation with a bit boring, very high stress but less pay than pilots. If you got LAME or AME license you have rarely chance to transfer to ATC license directly because the majority of the training requirements are different, in fact you may need to study ATC course nearly as a new beginner.

The path mentioned in #5 is a correct way, but there are various training organisations that can grant you to be an ATC except Airservices Australia.

If you get ATC license, you surely will not worry about getting a job with relatively good wage & benefits, but it's not easy indeed for our Chinese.

The more info are below:
http://www.casa.gov.au/index.htm
http://www.casa.gov.au/atc/index.htm
http://www.casa.gov.au/atc/licence.htm

原帖由 whisper 于 2008-12-24 17:49 发表
I cannot agree more.

ATC is very critical position in air safety, there was a mid-air crash in Mel in Oct. or Nov. (cannot really remember), they reckoned the indian pilot was killed because he failed to communicate with ATC.

If you are really interested in this industry, you can choose to be either a pilot or LAME (or AME). the career path would be:

Professional Pilot: spend 25K to get a PPL (private pilot licence) then start working for flying schools to accumulate your flying hours, as soon as you reach 1500 hours, you can work for regional airlines, over 3000 hours, you can expect to work for Qantas, if over 10000 hours, you can be expected to be paid $250K annually;
If you can join, air force, they will train you all free of charge.

LAME or AME:  you can do an engineering degree at UNI (maybe TAFE?), or start apprenticeship with MRO company, around 3 years, you can take exams organized by CASA, if you pass, you can expect to be paid around $30-150 per hour.

I have been in this industry for 4 years and should you need more info, I would be more than happy to assist.

it's estimated an increasingly demand for pilot and LAME in next 20 years.