Sony 55m f1.8 fuji 56mm F1.2

Mddd

因为我有sony a7r和fuji xpro1遇到这两款评价不错的的头，我自己也玩很多老头转接。但是有时候对焦速度还是很重要的。我就纠结的很，大家给评价分析下。

nariko

56mm很不错的人像头，几乎没缺点，并且和富士的23mm一个档次，形成远近搭配，两个都买的话完美
蔡司的55定焦除了不够亮骚其他也没啥缺点了，成像有德味，值这个价（尤其在索尼没有50/1.4的情况下）
我朋友的A7R挂机头就是55

Mddd

nariko 发表于 2014-12-2 11:31
56mm很不错的人像头，几乎没缺点，并且和富士的23mm一个档次，形成远近搭配，两个都买的话完美
蔡司的55定 ...

55mm的性价比挺高的，主要a7r在拍活动的时候比xpro1好用，xpro还是比较文艺，或者写真比较实用，但是如果去拍会场，就没戏了，跟不上啊，所以不知道买哪个头啊，真心都挺喜欢。我现在还有sony 24f1.8不知道是不是买了55mm就应该出掉了。

cxjzhj

两头的等效焦距不一样.sony由于是全幅所以就是55近标头视角.富士残幅的换算成全幅等效85.属于中长焦距人像头。如果想使用率高点当然是标头.进可攻退可守。

没有袖子的汗衫

如果会场光线条件允许，光圈能收的小一点，用手动头不一定慢。但是骚尼没用过， 不知道取景器感觉怎么样。  买了55为什么要出24？ 一广一中不是挺好

woodywup

Mddd 发表于 2014-12-2 10:37
55mm的性价比挺高的，主要a7r在拍活动的时候比xpro1好用，xpro还是比较文艺，或者写真比较实用，但是如果 ...

55/1.8 是现在FE镜头中最好的头了， 用A7系列的话这个必进。
24/1.8 是半幅头啊， 记得看过评测， 24/1.8 用在FF上的话大概可以覆盖 30mm ，
用自动APSC格式拍的话也可以接受，等效 36mm/2.4 小广角。可以比美 FE35/2.8了， 留着吧
而且 24/1.8 有个优势是最近对焦距离才 15.75cm， 可以当小微距使用了，

fuji 56mm F1.2 这个就算了吧， 毕竟半幅机用不长久， 而且 56/1.2 = 84/1.8 这个规格马上sony要发布 85/1.8了

Mddd

没有袖子的汗衫 发表于 2014-12-2 14:10
如果会场光线条件允许，光圈能收的小一点，用手动头不一定慢。但是骚尼没用过， 不知道取景器感觉怎么样。  ...

24 不支持全副，所以用在a7r上自动换算成36表头了。

Mddd

woodywup 发表于 2014-12-2 14:18
55/1.8 是现在FE镜头中最好的头了， 用A7系列的话这个必进。
24/1.8 是半幅头啊， 记得看过评测， 24/1.8 ...

兔子兄说的有理，24mm我出了很多好片也，从a7开始就很喜欢。

woodywup

Mddd 发表于 2014-12-2 14:20
兔子兄说的有理，24mm我出了很多好片也，从a7开始就很喜欢。

A7? 还是 NEX7?

我原来用Nex7 + E35
现在是  A7s + FE55

cxjzhj

woodywup 发表于 2014-12-2 15:37
A7? 还是 NEX7?

我原来用Nex7 + E35

24残幅头等效35.你的e35也是残幅头等效50

Mddd

woodywup 发表于 2014-12-2 15:37
A7? 还是 NEX7?

我原来用Nex7 + E35

我是a7R +24， 转接些其他镜头。呵呵

woodywup

cxjzhj 发表于 2014-12-2 14:46
24残幅头等效35.你的e35也是残幅头等效50

E35就算了， 7S的像素不能再裁剪，已经和Nex7 一起送给老爸玩了。
买7s 的时候就直接进了 FE55， 对焦确实方便， 风格也很喜欢

Mddd

woodywup 发表于 2014-12-2 16:10
E35就算了， 7S的像素不能再裁剪，已经和Nex7 一起送给老爸玩了。
买7s 的时候就直接进了 FE55， 对焦确 ...

我看你发的德头的帖子，确实不错。价格公道，有机会可以入一枚。

Mddd

cxjzhj 发表于 2014-12-2 15:46
24残幅头等效35.你的e35也是残幅头等效50

e35还是算了吧，呵呵，饼干头。sony 24-70/f4 和16-35 f4怎么样？

cxjzhj

Mddd 发表于 2014-12-2 16:41
e35还是算了吧，呵呵，饼干头。sony 24-70/f4 和16-35 f4怎么样？

我不玩Sony, 关键就是对其镜头群的不满意，至于转接这玩意，也是一时兴起，两年钱玩了一阵子转接手动头，刚开始各种惊喜各种兴奋，后来还是转回自动原生头了。 对我来说富士更像个相机，要手动我有正宗的旁轴。

yeu008

SONY至少后边有镜头群的计划，可扩展性也大。 其他，全看自己的需求了。

Mddd

yeu008 发表于 2014-12-2 23:59
SONY至少后边有镜头群的计划，可扩展性也大。 其他，全看自己的需求了。

嗯，感谢大家。呵呵，虽然我还是很犹豫，要不赚钱都买了算了，哈哈。。

Mddd

yeu008 发表于 2014-12-2 23:59
SONY至少后边有镜头群的计划，可扩展性也大。 其他，全看自己的需求了。

嗯，明白，我也有些旁轴相机。

woodywup

Mddd 发表于 2014-12-3 09:07
嗯，感谢大家。呵呵，虽然我还是很犹豫，要不赚钱都买了算了，哈哈。。 ...

我觉得还是把半幅机Xpro1和镜头都出了吧。有sony A7r这种全幅转接平台， 其他类型的器材可以减减了。
而且Sony明年的镜头越来越多， 机身也越刷越多， 忙不过来的。
明年至少我感兴趣考虑入的镜头
Distagon FE 35mm f/1.4 ZA
FE16-35 F/4
Loxia 35/2.0
如果 70-200 价格能再降下点来， 也要入一个，或者到时看 24-240的表现

Mddd

woodywup 发表于 2014-12-3 10:23
我觉得还是把半幅机Xpro1和镜头都出了吧。有sony A7r这种全幅转接平台， 其他类型的器材可以减减了。
而 ...

兔子，我对f4总是心里不爽，他要是2.8我早就买了，Loixa是什么？

woodywup

Mddd 发表于 2014-12-3 09:24
兔子，我对f4总是心里不爽，他要是2.8我早就买了，Loixa是什么？

F4没办法，在微单上现在只有F4， 16-35 广角F4还可以接受。
象24-70/f4 我就不会买。

Loxia 是 Zeiss 自己出的给全幅E口的手动定焦镜头， 不是Sony 标
总共两个 Loxia 50/2  , Loxia 35/2

mdlp

5518 不用讲的。。。。这款镜头评价很高
很诧异楼主用a7竟然不买这个。。。。

Mddd

mdlp 发表于 2014-12-3 10:41
5518 不用讲的。。。。这款镜头评价很高
很诧异楼主用a7竟然不买这个。。。。 ...

因为我当时有些复古镜头转接，比如contax什么的。

Mddd

woodywup 发表于 2014-12-3 10:33
F4没办法，在微单上现在只有F4， 16-35 广角F4还可以接受。
象24-70/f4 我就不会买。

呵呵，那等你买啦，看样图。

Wangmingtaoau

富士的头评测比 Sony 好，可以考虑换 X- T1, Sony 镜头的 Eco System 还要一年以后。

Mddd

Wangmingtaoau 发表于 2014-12-20 14:41
富士的头评测比 Sony 好，可以考虑换 X- T1, Sony 镜头的 Eco System 还要一年以后。 ...

嗯，是的，今天看见x50-140mm f2.8真心都不错，不过半幅和全副还是有些差距的，这是个问题。干活还是要全副走起我觉得。

Wangmingtaoau

Mddd 发表于 2014-12-22 10:10
嗯，是的，今天看见x50-140mm f2.8真心都不错，不过半幅和全副还是有些差距的，这是个问题。干活还是要全 ...

问题是全幅太重啊！

XT1+56 1.2 是一个佳能的头 85 1.2 的价格。而且轻许多。

富士走小众路线，佳能太坑爹，尼康不思进取，索尼的镜头不完善，Olympus 和松下 先天不足，传感器小，最后还是走富士吧。

对于大多数情况，除了暗光和运动，半幅的画质足够了。

包括一些专业摄影师，把佳能尼康大三元出了，入富士。富士的头还是足够好的。

富士对于那些懒得做后期的人也适合。Jpeg 质量高。

粗浅的理解，欢迎拍砖。

Mddd

Wangmingtaoau 发表于 2014-12-22 11:42
问题是全幅太重啊！

XT1+56 1.2 是一个佳能的头 85 1.2 的价格。而且轻许多。

嗯说的有道理，我以前是dslr后来是用富士，sony了，现在因为我觉得需要干点活，所以还要用起dslr了，哎，100个不爽，也没有办法。富士确实非常的，我一直很喜欢。

Wangmingtaoau

I am a professional wedding and portrait photographer. I shoot both traditional, posed portraits and candid, photojournalistic-style shots. I've shot Canon digital for the last 10 years, using everything from the 10D to the 6D and a whole bunch of full-frame and APS-C and APS-H models in between. Of course, through all those bodies, the glass is the biggest reason I stuck with Canon, eventually narrowing my main focal lengths to a few primes and a couple of key zooms.
85mm (full frame) is my favorite focal length, along with 35mm for the wider end.

I began with the classic, seemingly best-bang-for-your-buck Canon 85mm 1.8. It was reasonably sharp at 1.8 (usually) and sharpening up nicely by 2.8. The only thing was, it had horrendous chromatic aberrations (purple fringing) that made post-processing that much longer and more tedious. Enter the Sigma 85mm 1.4 at @ 2.5 time the cost of the Canon. A much better lens in terms of sharpness and color/contrast, as at 1.6, it was as good as anything out there, BUT I had to go through 4 copies to get one that didn't mis-focus (even with AF adjustment) or have some other mechanical issue. In a nutshell, not reliable enough for wedding work. So, I eventually caved and dropped the big bucks on the venerable Canon 85mm 1.2L II, otherwise known as the king of kings in the dreamy, bokeh-laden land of fast lenses. Now, the word "fast," as you've likely heard, merely describes it's light-gathering ability, because when defining it's focusing speed, this is an entirely ironic word. It's dog slow, it hunts. When you nail it, it's superb, but between the fact that it costs as much as a new 6D body AND a 85mm 1.8 and the fact that it weighs a lot (a detail that initially seems sexy, until you have to carry it around mounted on a 1DS MK III for 10 hours,) it gets old fast.

A couple of years back, I bought a Fuji X10, for a few reasons. I love the retro styling with so much manual control and I began to see some very nice tones from the camera, and I loved the direction the company was going in with the X100, but I couldn't justify the price for a fixed lens camera at the time, as I was still a full-time Canon shooter who had $10,000 invested in equipment and it didn't leave much flexibility for play money. Of course, the X10 was also a point and shoot with a tiny sensor, but the whole Fuji model is so well-thought-out and consistent, I was able to get an idea of the direction they were going in.

Last year, I finally got my hands on an X100. I loved it, to a degree. It was wonderful to hold, to shoot with. It was unobtrusive and didn't scare anyone. But the lens was only good, not great. 35mm is my bread and butter length and I'd grown quite accustomed to the insanely gorgeous, sharp at 1.4 images my Sigma 35mm 1.4 ART lens had been giving me, and in the end, the Fuji, limited in it's single focal length attached to what looked to be a very promising sensor, wasn't going to take the place of that lens. So, it went back up for sale.
Then, I got a hold of an X-E1 with the 18-55, which as many have attested, is a fantastic kit lens, BUT the AF was slow and hunting in low light. I still began to see the promise of the system and loved the images I was getting with this one, but it was before the firmware updates. Then, I got an X-Pro 1 with a 35mm 1.4 and it really started to become a contender, the whole system that is. The lens was nice, the images were nice, the AF was still slow, but as I looked at the Fuji lens roadmap and saw what was coming, I began to think, "I may eventually be able to move from Canon," which is a thought I did not have lightly.
Still, I went through all of last season with my full Canon gear, shooting a few shots at one wedding with the X-E1 and few at another with an Olympus OM-D EM-1 (which was quickly discarded as the glass to sensor size is never going to work for my style.) As this season approached, I began to dread two details- 1) Having to hunt with the heavy 85mm 1.2 and 2) Having to not only lug around all that heavy Canon gear, but also try to get close, candid shots without someone recoiling at the sight of a gigantic camera near them. So, I began to voraciously read up on the XT-1 and the 56mm 1.2 and the 23mm 1.4, as well as the firmware updates of the XE-1. It all began to really look good, as in really good. I rented and XT-1 and a 23mm 1.4. I am not lying when I say that within a few hours, I was taking pictures of my 5D MK II, my 6D and my Canon glass and putting it on Ebay. Rash? Perhaps, but as soon as I dumped those 23mm 1.4 shots into Lightroom and saw that they were tack-sharp and the dynamic range was insane, that did it. I had read enough reviews from enough trusted sources to know that the 56mm 1.2 would be the 23mm's equivalent, and, to now make a very long story short and hopefully relevant, I can say I know as the truth that this is indeed the case. I have been using the XT-1 with the 23mm and 56mm and the XE-1 with the 14mm 2.8 and 55-200mm for the better part of a month now and after having just shot an engagement shoot with ALL FUJI gear for my first time ever, I am here to say that I have 100% faith in this system. Not only that, but I prefer the images I am getting from this system vs. the Canon.

The 56 is what the 85mm 1.8 would be if it were sharp wide open and without chromatic issues. That may not seem to you that it's worth a thousand dollars, but to me, it is.
I rarely shot the 85MM 1.2 at 1.2, though when I did, I loved it, and so I cannot lie that I will miss that in the tiniest way, BUT the way that the RAF files come from this camera (not to mention the jpegs and did I really just say that?) is one thing that Canon cannot do.
The 56 is solid, it's fast, it's built as beautifully as any lens I've ever owned. It's small and non-threatening. It has a close focusing distance as well, so if you really want that up close portrait where everything but the eyes or the lips is thrown into a dreamy background, this will deliver that in spades.

This lens (along with the 23mm 1.4) made it possible for me to switch, confidently, to an entirely new system with a smaller sensor, so while the price may intimidate some people, for me, it's a bargain.

Wangmingtaoau

上面贴了一个美国 Amazon 对这个5612 头的 Review, 不敢完全排除不是软文，但是道理是赞同的。

BH 上卖的最好的富士头里面就是这个，其次是 23.

Sony 的头相比不行，虽然有全幅，但是综合评下来还是 XT1 胜出。