多大的孩子可以开始用safe and sound Maxi rider - sales 说这款要停产了

jibu

现在mothercare卖319刀含安装。Sales 说现货卖完就不进了，因为这款要被新款取代，新款500多刀。这个car seat是适合6个月到6岁的，但sales说其实8个月以下的宝宝放进去都会太大。我又上网查了下老外的论坛，很多人都是孩子快两岁了觉得原来的太小才开始用这个座椅，可以一直用到7岁多。
我现在是想买第二个座椅。已经有了一个适合新生儿的convertable的。想再买一个6个月后用的放在第二辆车里。这个适不适合呢？我不想等到8个月以后才能用。

Hsc

i did a lot of research on car seats when my daughter was younger. In Europe and US, the regulation now all recommend little baby to sit backwards until at least 1 year old. So, if your baby still fits into the baby capsule, then it is safer to leave her/him in capsule backward facing until he is too big for it. Usually, a frontal crash causes most injury (i.e. the front of your car hits the back of another car). If you imagine, the force of the crash will force a person throw forwards. This will result in a lot of strain on the neck and spine. For babies, their necks are not strong, so this force can cause serious injury, even death (called internal decapitation, where the neck broke as a result of the crash). However, if they are sitting facing backforwards, then the crash will make the baby move towards the back of the capsule, supporting his neck and spine. So it's a lot safer for little kids to sit facing the back of the car. In Europe, many parents choose to buy backward facing carseats for up to 4 year olds (they sell it there). In Northern Europe, some country by law required kids to sit backwards until 4 years old  e.g. Sweden, and statistics show that the % of children die in a car crash is less than 1/10 of the % in Australia.  (Note, I am talking about %, not absolute numbers, as the population is much small in Sweden). Australia'a car seat law, to be honest, is very behind compared to other developed countries.

qqyang

Hsc 发表于 2012-11-13 13:48
i did a lot of research on car seats when my daughter was younger. In Europe and US, the regulation  ...

只能说瑞典的小孩子都太呆了，往后坐能看到什么风景啊？也没法很好的跟父母交流。特别是长时间的乘车外游。

Hsc

Hsc 发表于 2012-11-13 14:48
i did a lot of research on car seats when my daughter was younger. In Europe and US, the regulation  ...

This video shows a crash test with a front facing carseat vs a back facing carseat (from 1 min 32 seconds onwards). You can see for yourself how much safer it is for a baby to sit facing backwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DVfqFhseo

Hsc

qqyang 发表于 2012-11-13 14:51
只能说瑞典的小孩子都太呆了，往后坐能看到什么风景啊？也没法很好的跟父母交流。特别是长时间的乘车外游 ...

It is better to be safe. I stress that it is not just Sweden that I am talking about, most of the Western world now advocate backward facing seat. Australia and of course even worse, China, is REALLY backwards about their car seat culture and regulation.

qqyang

Hsc 发表于 2012-11-13 14:03
It is better to be safe. I stress that it is not just Sweden that I am talking about, most of the  ...

好好看车，表想那么多。

celine19824

我儿子不到1岁开始用的，因为要生老二，就把convertible的给妹妹用，儿子就买了一个6个月用到8岁的。。btw，这款据说是可以用到8岁。。

sn0wflake

我家用的这款是maxi rider AHR，有headrest那款，晕s了，我们买了也就一年多吧，那时候才刚upgrade过，又要出新的了。。。平均2年一upgrade哈。。。。我儿子是2岁多点原来那个convertible小了才换的这个。如果只是maxi rider，里面连headrest都没有，六个月坐真心不合适觉得，更何况还要forward facing。。。。别说有accident，我觉得急刹车那么小的宝宝forward facing都会受不了。。。。能坐不代表坐进去就有起到protection的作用，我儿子两岁多（他还算个子大的）坐进去都是很宽松的，如果6－8个月的baby坐进去根本就是在里面晃吧，一点support都没有估计。。。。。

stateshuang

Hsc 发表于 2012-11-13 14:48
i did a lot of research on car seats when my daughter was younger. In Europe and US, the regulation  ...

we are considering changing capsule to convertible for irisha now. seems like the later the better huh? but once the baby is grown out of the capsule, it will make no choice other than change to a front facing car seat...

Minimouse

请问lz是在哪家mothercare 看到319的啊，网上怎么是369？是店里有further discount吗？

bcjnw

晕，前几天刚买了，打算带回国用的。

Hsc

stateshuang 发表于 2012-11-13 21:22
we are considering changing capsule to convertible for irisha now. seems like the later the better ...

Yes, the later the better,as long as Irisha is still within the height/weight recommendation of the baby capsule. Since Australia does not sell backward facing car seat for > 1 year old, I am afraid there is no choice and you will have to move her to a big girl forward facing carseat when she grows out of her capsule.

blahblahblah

Hsc 发表于 2012-11-13 14:48
i did a lot of research on car seats when my daughter was younger. In Europe and US, the regulation  ...

rear facing  up to 4 years in Australia? you've gotta be kidding me.

Its possible in Europe because they use the isofix system. That system is currently still illegal in Australia.  Without the isofix system, its not possible to have a rear facing child restraint up to 4 years of age

blahblahblah

我也在看这款，大宝刚2岁，二宝明年2月出世，准备把老大的现在的convertible给小的
老大的convertible是0-4岁的

左手写她

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jibu

Minimouse 发表于 2012-11-13 22:07
请问lz是在哪家mothercare 看到319的啊，网上怎么是369？是店里有further discount吗？
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不知道为什么。上个星期网上标的319。打电话到店里问吧。

jibu

看来这款真的要快一岁才用的上。那0到4岁的那款真能用到4岁吗？为什么很多孩子两岁时就得换了。

sn0wflake

jibu 发表于 2012-11-14 12:29
看来这款真的要快一岁才用的上。那0到4岁的那款真能用到4岁吗？为什么很多孩子两岁时就得换了。 ...

看各家娃大小了，我儿子两岁0－4岁的safe and sound convertible坐起来就好紧张了，孩子总是不肯坐，说不舒服（之前他坐都没问题）最主要是那个headrest的地方规定是要比孩子头高的，结果我们调到最高，我儿子的头还是高出来一块。。。。。但是也看有人说她家儿子3岁多还在坐的，换了我家宝，简直想像不能，他现在三岁三个月，105cm，convertible怎么可能坐的下。。。。。当时带他到店里去试maxi rider AHR的时候，人家坐上去说：这个比那个（指我们车里那个）舒服。笑s我了，2岁的娃，就会用比较式了。。。。

Minimouse

jibu 发表于 2012-11-14 13:24
不知道为什么。上个星期网上标的319。打电话到店里问吧。

好的，谢谢。

jibu

I talked to a sales in baby Kingdom today. She said from her experience a 8 month old baby can grow to the minimum shoulder level of Maxi rider. Also the law of Australia might change in near future, to rear facing car seat to up to 1 year old.

jibu

今天去mothercare买了Meridian AHR, 5 天促销351刀。Maxi rider 是卖319的。新的替换Maxi rider的也出来了，velvet black的，觉得不太好看，比老的Maxi rider窄很多。