悉尼考医人求助

lin324

本人是国内5年本科临床毕业生，09年到悉尼定居，这三年多一直在dental lab和clinic工作，前两年完成了Dental Technology的Diploma，现在P/T在Sydney dental Hospital读Prosthetic，最近被棒子老板刺激了一下，说我反正都要雅思4个7才能注册Prothetist，还不如直接回去考GP好过，其实也有道理，所以想来了解一下，请大家指点指点，尤其希望能和在悉尼的师兄师姐联系上，万分感谢！

dragonballz

It's difficult now to be a doctor via AMC pathway. You can visit AMC website for details. Basically, you need pass AMC MCQ and clinical exams (due to high demand, it will take 2 years' waiting period), plus OET 4B or IELTS 4/7, then AMC will issue you a certificate.

However, this does not mean you get a job. You will need to do job hunting all by yourself to find a job. The national medical board now requires any oversea doctors should not leave workforce more than 3 years before registering in Australia as well as passing MCQ and English test. So, it is actually a Catch 22. One of my friends went back to China to be a doctor again while waiting for job available here. Making things worse, tsunami of local graduates came out since 2010, more than tripled!!! Lots of oversea medical students, who usu came from Singaproe or Malaysia, could not find intern jobs and have to fill job vacancies in countryside, otherwise they would go back to their own country. The situation is not bright as before. Anyway, I still heard someone managed to find a job here or there, but luck is a key factor here now.

If you really want to go ahead, there is a VMPF in Melbourne arranging bridging courses for MCQ and clinical exams, still the best in Oz. I took its clinical one and benefited a lot, including the job hunting. But reminds you, things changed a lot now.

FIONA4

考gp也要考oet或雅思的啊

lin324

Oh dear,  that's not good news. So you've passed everything already?
I wish I could attend the course in Mel, but I am in Syd.  

lin324

FIONA4 发表于 2012-10-21 23:11
考gp也要考oet或雅思的啊

是啊，就是说反正都得考

chensam1022

lin324 发表于 2012-10-21 23:18
Oh dear,  that's not good news. So you've passed everything already?
I wish I could attend the cour ...

It s not a good time to sit AMC exam. U just waste ur time and money.

lin324

chensam1022 发表于 2012-10-21 23:46
It s not a good time to sit AMC exam. U just waste ur time and money.

chensam1022

From ur word, u don't have any idea regarding the AMC exam. U can't sit exam for GP straightly. Even u decide to start it know, it would take you as least 7 years to become a GP, providing u can pass ur exam in first goal then find a job straight away. GP is some kind of specialist medical profession. Good luck, my friend.

lin324

chensam1022 发表于 2012-10-21 23:55
From ur word, u don't have any idea regarding the AMC exam. U can't sit exam for GP straightly. Even ...

Thx 4 ur info!

chensam1022

:):)

采薇

dragonballz 发表于 2012-10-21 23:00
It's difficult now to be a doctor via AMC pathway. You can visit AMC website for details. Basically, ...

"The national medical board now requires any oversea doctors should not leave workforce more than 3 years before registering in Australia as well as passing MCQ and English test."

现在是已经有这个规定了吗？

dragonballz

lin324 发表于 2012-10-21 23:18
Oh dear,  that's not good news. So you've passed everything already?
I wish I could attend the cour ...

我是07年中考过MCQ，09年初全部考完的，当时考完MCQ到clinical要等一年左右。我参加完VMPF后才去考的clinical。当年在Monash Medical Center学习的盛况再也没有了，那是医院图书馆没有限制外来人员，而且staff cafeteria是老的大厅；经常有几十人在里面学习，如果有任何疑问，大家互相一share，答案就有了。随着诸多限制，现在已经很少有人在MMC了。不过，每周四MMC的Lecture Theatre仍就由Dr Wenzel的免费Clinical补习，他已经无偿给大家奉献了四五年了，的确是个好人。在那里一般现在有一两百人去听课，还可以要他的email，有每期clinical考试后多人的回忆！！！很有帮助。

dragonballz

采薇 发表于 2012-10-22 09:59
"The national medical board now requires any oversea doctors should not leave workforce more than  ...

是的，自从national medical board成立起，Oversea doctor的限制就很多了。我的一个朋友都在Sydney找到工作了，医院也愿意support，就是因为离开临床时间太长，被Medical Board拒绝注册三次！！！都去了tribunal申述，依旧不行！！！

采薇

dragonballz 发表于 2012-10-22 15:13
是的，自从national medical board成立起，Oversea doctor的限制就很多了。我的一个朋友都在Sydney找到工 ...

谢谢您的回复。

我觉得太不可思议了。这方面AHPRA没有明确的规定吧。况且完全通过考试怎么也得需要2－3年的时间学习啊。

chensam1022

采薇 发表于 2012-10-22 15:45
谢谢您的回复。

我觉得太不可思议了。这方面AHPRA没有明确的规定吧。况且完全通过考试怎么也得需要2－3 ...

that's an excuse for them to stop taking oversea Drs.

lin324

chensam1022 发表于 2012-10-22 15:55
that's an excuse for them to stop taking oversea Drs.

Exactly, they just try to block the way. I guess people who learnt Chinese Medicine could have a better chance than what we have. Sign!!!

lin324

采薇 发表于 2012-10-22 15:45
谢谢您的回复。

我觉得太不可思议了。这方面AHPRA没有明确的规定吧。况且完全通过考试怎么也得需要2－3 ...

就是啊，我前几天还有点后悔自己09年来的时候没有马上开始备考，现在回想起来即使我真的用三年半时间完成所有考试（其实我觉得我不太可能做得到）到现在都已经离开临床三年了，又是一个死循环...

采薇

chensam1022 发表于 2012-10-22 15:55
that's an excuse for them to stop taking oversea Drs.

嗯。现在已经有规定了。

采薇

lin324 发表于 2012-10-22 21:36
就是啊，我前几天还有点后悔自己09年来的时候没有马上开始备考，现在回想起来即使我真的用三年半时间完成 ...

只能说海外医生最好的时机已经过了，现在门缝也是越来越窄了。

peacepeace

现在本地学生和海外留学生都很难找到INTERN位置，当然要找理由来卡你了。
离开3年就不让工作了，这个基本就断了95%人的路了。
有个巴基斯坦开TAXI的海外医生，MCQ和AMC都考过了，考OET都考了28次还没过，他估计还不知道3年的规定，他要是考过了OET估计要疯了。

chensam1022

可怜的孩子

lin324

peacepeace 发表于 2012-10-22 21:53
现在本地学生和海外留学生都很难找到INTERN位置，当然要找理由来卡你了。
离开3年就不让工作了，这个基本就 ...

如果还没有明文规定，那他们凭什么拒绝人家呢？

采薇

lin324 发表于 2012-10-22 23:20
如果还没有明文规定，那他们凭什么拒绝人家呢？

这个应该就是依据了。

采薇

dragonballz 发表于 2012-10-22 15:13
是的，自从national medical board成立起，Oversea doctor的限制就很多了。我的一个朋友都在Sydney找到工 ...

又仔细看了规定，你朋友如果是OET, MCQ, clinical 全考过了，拿的如果是internship的位置，应该是可以注册的。如果高于internship，就会有麻烦了。

土豆花生

我看了下楼上的文件，没有任何条款说是不可以register。想考医的同学还是应该继续努力。

chensam1022

采薇 发表于 2012-10-23 09:46
又仔细看了规定，你朋友如果是OET, MCQ, clinical 全考过了，拿的如果是internship的位置，应该是可以注 ...

inten position would be assigned by health department. As an AMC, u will be put on last priority to gain an intern position which means it is nearly impossible to get an intern position.

lin324

dragonballz 发表于 2012-10-22 15:13
是的，自从national medical board成立起，Oversea doctor的限制就很多了。我的一个朋友都在Sydney找到工 ...

中医学已经被正式纳入national board了。弱弱问一句，国内学临床医学的如果有选修或必修了中医科的话，能不能在这边注册中医师呢？有没听说过身边有人这么做呢？另外其实UTS也有中医系，不知道有没有人为了重回医路走这样的path way呢？

土豆花生

chensam1022 发表于 2012-10-23 12:11
inten position would be assigned by health department. As an AMC, u will be put on last priority t ...

没看新闻吗? intern available positions即将增加3倍。

chensam1022

土豆花生 发表于 2012-10-23 13:41
没看新闻吗? intern available positions即将增加3倍。

local medical students > 3 times

chensam1022

AMCs are not allowed to join intern national program, u can only allied RMO or SRMO.