有TAX AGENT能报family trust的税的吗

wayne.70s

帐我都做好了，distribution minute 也已经做好了，现在就是要paper lodge很麻烦，听说tax agent可以网上直接报，就不想再自己弄了
有能报FAMILY TRUST TAX RETURN的AGENT 给我报个价好吗，我在BRISBANE, 但是我可以把报表发给你，只要帮我网上申报掉就行了。

LENNY_DONG

I prefer you lodge by yourself

wayne.70s

以前从来没报过，一看那个paper form就头大了，真心不想填

LENNY_DONG

But you know minitues and bookkeeping has been done...not hard to do by yourself..

wayne.70s

表格有16页，有些项目我都搞不清什么意思。是在真心不想弄，哪位好心报个价吧，看到填报我就烦了，还不能直接填写在PDF里，要手写。

kevly

最后一步了。。。

cycwong21

Go local tax agent. Pay the money, don't save a penny, and create a big trouble.

If you don't have any Australian tax experience for family trust account preparation, I don't think your account would be correct.(monkey08)

Poweregg

帮顶一下
我的会计也还没帮我报呢

JohnnySu

I do these on a daily basis. Let me know if anyone needs help.

wanghui1015

只在单位做,从不接super和trust的私活。
建议楼主找个当地的CA firm，花点钱，自己的信息也安全。

xlin8703

wanghui1015 发表于 2012-9-7 23:31
只在单位做,从不接super和trust的私活。
建议楼主找个当地的CA firm，花点钱，自己的信息也安全。 ...

嗯，说得靠谱

markbaumol

还是要找个会计帮你的数据看看的，自己做不能完全保证合理性的

yw0830

Poweregg 发表于 2012-9-7 07:55
帮顶一下
我的会计也还没帮我报呢

You are the one who runs the family trust, not your accountant.

After financial year, you should advise your business activities to your accountant. Of course, your accountant has not done the account for you. Because you haven't told them to prepare your account for the family trust.

JohnnySu

yw0830 发表于 2012-9-9 02:06
You are the one who runs the family trust, not your accountant.

After financial year, you should  ...

The trustees have certain responsibilities but it is fair to expect the accountants to play a role in the management of a trust as well.
The accountants are supposed to be the ones who have up-to-date knowledge about the trust laws and tax laws. Who else can better help the trustees to comply with these laws.:)

yw0830

taxbreak 发表于 2012-9-11 13:06
The trustees have certain responsibilities but it is fair to expect the accountants to play a role ...

By doing that, need trustee's corporation. If the trustee doesn't provide any information, how accountant is expected to help.

As per my understanding, all accountant association bodies do not encourage accountants to be involved with the management of clients' companies. It would incease the risk of professional liabilities.

JohnnySu

yw0830 发表于 2012-9-13 02:39
By doing that, need trustee's corporation. If the trustee doesn't provide any information, how acc ...

I am Chartered Accountant and have not noticed comments like that from the institute.

xinxin119

现在这里各种欢乐啊~~

yw0830

taxbreak 发表于 2012-9-13 09:22
I am Chartered Accountant and have not noticed comments like that from the institute.

I found CA do not have general legal sense compared with CPA. By saying so, one of CAs who worked for Big 4 was auditing our church accounts. I later reported to the management board that he could not be the auditor for us due to conflict of interest. Because he was not just a general member of our church, and later was elected to be the member of the board. He even did not have professional indemnity insurance. He totally had no idea about it until I reminded him to give a ring to CA. Then, CA told him off. The church had to get another auditor to audit our accounts back to the year he started. Basically, the new auditor was doing duplicate work.

I even remember my both Audit lecturer and Legal lecturer had warned us that did not get involve with the management of clients' companies. It would increase the risk of professional legal liabilities. It has been repeated with CPA program. I think you either was sleeping through your lecture or was not taught by your lecturers.

JohnnySu

yw0830 发表于 2012-9-13 23:21
I found CA do not have general legal sense compared with CPA. By saying so, one of CAs who worked  ...

That is not true........CA have much higher entry and study requirements then CPA........if you are in the profession you would know.

We were talking about accountants in the business services sector which is a completely different scenario than that in an Audit situation where lack of Independence is a risk factor.

LENNY_DONG

http://www.charteredaccountants. ... y-requirements.aspx

This is join CA

http://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/c ... ted-membership.html

This is Join CPA

PLEASE JUSTIFY WHERE IS HIGHER ENTRY REQUIREMENT FOR CA

ALSO, I CHECK CA LIST FOR VICTORIA

Holmesglen Institute of TAFE is also qualify for CA membership

xinxin119

CA has a higher quality than CPA ..咳咳...让我想起了之前这里一个天天宣扬自己是CA 的会计，说过同样的话，05年大学毕业在2011 年时告诉客人有10年的工作经验，各种吹嘘但收费无敌便宜的某某BH会计。。。

不论CA or CPA, 做事情的好坏不是看你的qualification 而是看你的knowledge and experience。 YW0830 说的是对的， 如果taxbreak 真的打算在public practice 发展，需要注意到自己的possible liability exposure.问题都是几年之后发现的。

xinxin119

STS-TAX 发表于 2012-9-14 10:02
http://www.charteredaccountants.com.au/Candidates/The-Chartered-Accountants-Program/Entry-requiremen ...

你看，怒了一个....

JohnnySu

Not trying to be personal guys! but I have done both CA and CPA so I know them well.

You need to have relevant work experience and an accredited degree before you can study the CA program while with CPA as long as you have a degree you can kick start - no experience requirement for entry.

With the program itself CA program requires participation to classes/seminars while the CPA program is a remote study program - no physical participation is required.

The assessment requirement is also higher for CA as there are seminar presentation, mid term projects and the final exam while with CPA all you need to pass is one final exam.

p.s.I don't think there is any public liability issue here. Just different points of views..:)  Xinxin I think YW0830 was talking about Auditor independence....

佳音妈

这里的会计- 特指TAX AGENT 拉生意最爱开长篇英语，想吓死谁啊.不是谁英语好就专业的好吗, 放松点好吗!

LENNY_DONG

So ....
For CPA

Any problem to join CA ? Like you?

You try distinguish CPA AND CA

But when you summarised your comment, I feel you talking about graduate accountant

Sorceress

这帖真欢乐

bricks

谁需要砖？ 零售批发价

Sorceress

bricks 发表于 2012-9-14 13:42
谁需要砖？ 零售批发价

价格包括GST么

JohnnySu

Lets stop there.. CA and CPA can both be good accountants

lee2267

晕。。这个有啥好讨论的 。在我看来 。cpa=ca=签字权=赚钱养家的工具而已。。

我之前的 supervisor 有20 年firm经验。。但也没有cpa& CA证书。。人家照样拿年薪10w多。。

干我们这行的 。经验是王道。cpa & ca 就是鸡肋。。 瞧这楼歪的。。。

在多说一句。。现在 cpd hours 不好拿啊 。。最近认识的 cpa /ca full member 后， 都去考 ca/cpa了 。。
一年考1们 就好。。cpd hours就全到手了。。而且经济实惠。。。