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同事转发的西澳一个医生的帖子。我觉得写得挺中肯的 [复制链接]

发表于 2020-3-13 18:45 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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Must read: Shared from a doctor friend working in Infectious Diseases in Western Australia. In her words...

As most of you know, I don’t post on Facebook often, but I need you to read this article. I have been a doctor on the infectious diseases team this week, and many people have asked me the same questions about corona virus, and this is what I’ve been telling them: we need to be prepared and wary, but not alarmed. The media has been very sensationalist and has a lot to answer for, including my inability to find toilet paper.

The covid-19 virus is coming to Australia, and in most places it is already here. For 80% of people who get it, you will develop mild cold symptoms. What’s the big deal then? Why are we talking about closing schools and cancelling events and sports?

Cancelling large gatherings will slow the spread of the virus, so hospitals are not overwhelmed. I’m a doctor and I don’t want to have to tell you that we can’t treat your mum because we’ve run out of oxygen. I don’t want to call you to tell you that your dad died in a corridor, because we didn’t have enough beds. This is what Northern Italy is experiencing right now, and they have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. This is what areas of the US are currently experiencing. They are having to choose which patients live and which ones die. China had to build 16 new hospitals in a few weeks for a city with the same population as Australia, and they still ran out of resources. They had to fly in builders, cleaners, kitchen staff, nurses and doctors from all around China to have enough staff. We don’t have this ability; it took 4 years to build the Perth Children’s Hospital. If we can slow it down, so there are enough resources and staff to treat everyone that gets sick, less people will die. A lot less. So yes, most people will develop mild symptoms, but upto 20% may need hospitalisation. That’s 1 in 5 people, and if this amount of people need hospital admission suddenly, like in Italy, China and America, our world class Australian healthcare system is going to struggle, and people will not be able to get the care they need, and they will die.

In regards to closing schools, children in particular seem to not develop many or any symptoms. They can then pass it on to other children and teachers, who will then take it home to their families, and potentially give it to grandparents. Older people and people with other medical conditions such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease, lung disease and high blood pressure are particularly at risk of dying from covid-19. People over the age of 80 may have a mortality rate of upto 14%. You don’t want your grandma to get it, if we can avoid it. You don’t want to accidently infect you’re child’s best friend’s mum, who is battling breast cancer, if we can avoid it. Your friend from book club or the men’s shed takes medications to suppress their immune system to treat an autoimmune disease, so you don’t want them to get it if we can avoid it.

If you are asked to self isolate, please stay at home the whole time. Don’t just “duck to the shops” because “I’ll only be there for 5 minutes, it won’t hurt anyone”. It does and it will. When the lockdown in Italy started, people in Italy were still going to the gym, to cafes and other places in public. Look where they are now: the whole country is in lockdown and funerals are banned. They can’t even grieve their dead. Isolating yourself when asked to is a sign of altruism. Going out when you’ve been asked not to is essentially saying that your short term pleasure/job etc. is more important than someone else’s life. You might not feel sick enough to want to stay home, but if you don’t someone else could die. Or multiple people. On average one person with corona virus infects 2-3 others, but one person in Korea infected hundreds accidently before they were found and isolated.

I want you and your family to get the best care possible, in one of the best health care systems in the world. But we can’t do this without everyone getting involved. Please read this article. Start preparing. Start physically distancing yourself from other people by more than 1 metre. Please stop handshaking, hugging or kissing people on the cheek. Please frequently wash your hands with alcohol hand rub or soap and water for 20 seconds. Notice and reduce the amount you touch your face.

Please read this article. Singapore and Hong Kong have contained the virus by using the measures mentioned in the article. We can too, but we need everyone to pull together. Please stay home if you unwell, even if you only have a mild cold, please only take what you need from the supermarket, and please just be kind. If we do this together, the impacts of the corona virus will be much less, and a lot more people will live.

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发表于 2020-3-13 18:47 |显示全部楼层
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是的,距离一米,可以一定程度防护到自己

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不要过分抢购,不然疾病还没来,社会先乱起来了,然后很容易导致失控混乱,这个对医疗对每个人都是非常不利的

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这个医生的建议就是不要聚会,这样减缓病毒传播。也同时告诉大家赤裸裸的事实,澳大利亚没有中国那种能力,几周时间建16座医院。如果病毒扩散,澳洲是没有资源去救助所有人的。

我觉得大家还是少去聚会,勤洗手,必要时候戴口罩。

发表于 2020-3-13 19:14 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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两名同事这周从美国回来,没有隔离的意思。我成了大家眼中”大惊小怪” 的人。 还有同事故意咳嗽吓唬我。

发表于 2020-3-13 20:13 |显示全部楼层
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政府应该好好听取一下专业人士的意见了。该关学校了,否则真是横扫一大片的。
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还有,这个病毒会变异的,如果再出现像武汉一月初那种重症亚种,那谁都别想活命了。年轻的都没法跑!

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读好了,顶。

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媒体报道误导大众,应该让这些传染病专家来多做些指导,而不是那些政客整天唧唧歪歪,胡扯,一天一个说法

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这就是因为不能实行强制隔离的情况下出现的无奈甚至无力的呐喊了,一声叹息

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真是好帖,帮忙传给英语人士,他们这方面的资料不及华人多。
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相当苦口婆心了

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我觉得我好危险。。。一个同事刚从巴厘岛回来,一个刚从夏威夷回来,路上遇见一个旧同事,上来就搂着贴个脸。。。。。。传染源太多了。。。

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http://chng.it/L86jNRcD8C
号召学校停课的投票链接, 都表明一下态度吧!

发表于 2020-3-14 07:50 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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天涯芳草 发表于 2020-3-13 23:40
媒体报道误导大众,应该让这些传染病专家来多做些指导,而不是那些政客整天唧唧歪歪,胡扯,一天一个说法 ...

重点是她有理有据的分析的为什么医疗系统健全的意大利会陷入困境,然后结合她作为医疗人员对澳洲医疗系统的了解,解释了为什么大部分人只是轻症,但要全民警觉关闭学校的理由。

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AlexChin 发表于 2020-3-14 00:04
在澳华人为什么还需听这些建议,难道不是1、2个月前就从中文媒体获得类似的建议了吗?! ...

当然不是。这贴写了上千字,但完全没有提及戴口罩,反复强调勤洗手,这个和澳洲的防疫宣传其实是一致的。你随便找个国人这么说试试,对方一定认为你傻到家了。
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发表于 2020-3-14 10:09 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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LZ,有facebook 链接吗?

发表于 2020-3-14 10:19 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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vicky0105 发表于 2020-3-14 10:09
LZ,有facebook 链接吗?

https://m.facebook.com/100010834 ... mp;isappinstalled=0

这个不是最早的链接,也是转发的

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发表于 2020-3-14 10:57 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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AlexChin 发表于 2020-3-14 10:45
所以啊,有更好建议的不用,偏用有问题的建议。哦,出于澳洲维稳需要,领工资的。 ...

我觉得她的帖子有理有据,非常中肯。不知道你觉得哪里有问题?

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谢谢分享,现在就是尽量不出门,希望快点停课吧
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所以还是没有提到口罩会起到很大作用。

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其实就是这个道理,这个疾病也许对绝大多数人都不算什么问题,但万一万一一起发作,本来能好的也可能好不了
老实的他是两天才是王道
对于那些觉得无所谓的二逼们,也许他们得了没事,但他们在传给别人,别人未必没事

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TIMEBEFORE 发表于 2020-3-14 13:40
其实就是这个道理,这个疾病也许对绝大多数人都不算什么问题,但万一万一一起发作,本来能好的也可能好不了 ...

对,很多人觉得自己年轻力壮所以不怕也不防。但是他们传给体弱的人可能就是致命的。

发表于 2020-3-14 15:12 |显示全部楼层
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xialamu 发表于 2020-3-14 14:45
对,很多人觉得自己年轻力壮所以不怕也不防。但是他们传给体弱的人可能就是致命的。 ...

这次的疫情,淋漓尽致的体现了澳洲部分人的无知和自大

发表于 2020-3-14 16:48 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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坦白来说,他这是中策,中国现行的严厉措施属于上策。可惜澳洲政府这头猪,偏偏选择了下策。
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天涯芳草 发表于 2020-3-13 23:40
媒体报道误导大众,应该让这些传染病专家来多做些指导,而不是那些政客整天唧唧歪歪,胡扯,一天一个说法 ...

政客唧唧歪歪的已经确诊,住VIP病房了,老百姓轻症回家隔离,政客轻症VIP病房。到时候如果抢呼吸机,老百姓是抢不过他们的。

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