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[行情讨论] 贷不到款的中国买家Gumtree打广告亏本转澳洲第一高楼的楼花 [复制链接]

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https://www.afr.com/real-estate/ ... ora-20181113-h17vfc



Buyers use Gumtree to sell discounted luxury apartments Australia 108, Aurora
Larry Schlesinger AFR Woodcut by Larry Schlesinger
Foreign investors are selling discounted apartments in iconic Melbourne high-rise developments like Australia 108, Aurora and Premier Tower on classified websites like Gumtree before settlement as they battle to secure bank funding.

Among the discounted offerings, a Queensland-based investor is selling a 49 square metre one-bedroom apartment in Australia 108, the tallest residential building in the Southern Hemisphere, for $459,000 – having bought it off the plan for almost $500,000.

"Big price drop," reads the ad for the apartment.

In Singaporean developer Fragrance's Beyonce-shaped Premier Tower, also under construction, a two-bedroom, two bathroom apartment is being offered for sale for $650,000, well under the $700,000 asking price for similar sized two-bedroom apartments. Sales in the development have been stuck at about 74 per cent.

One agent marketing apartments on the Gumtree said she had numerous apartments to sell in Premier Tower. "About half of these buyers can't get a loan," she said.

Other developments being sold on the cheap include Far East Consortium's multi-tower West Side Place, which will include a new Ritz-Carlton hotel.

The Gumtree ad, written entirely in Mandarin,  says the first offerings in the development had been "robbed hot" and urges buyers not to miss out on the "Melbourne King". However, the prices appear to be lower than those advertised online by the project's marketing agent Colliers International.

Tougher criteria
Mortgage broker Paul Williams from Mortgage Choice South Melbourne said an increasing number of local real estate agents were contacting his office to find solutions for people who are yet to secure finance.

"We are assisting overseas-based buyers (expats and non-expats) who are currently unable to make settlements for high-density properties because they may have purchased a couple of years ago and had pre-approval prior to changes in lender policy such as tougher assessment criteria on foreign income combined with tighter LVR restrictions," Mr Williams said.

"As mortgage brokers, we have helped these clients by switching lenders, due to valuation shortfalls or lender policy changes from purchase or pre-approval time to settlement time.

"Unfortunately some borrowers purchasing off the plan have had to forfeit deposits, sell at a lower price than they paid, or raise significant extra funds.

"To ensure better outcomes for clients, we caution risk-averse people from buying inner or city fringe locations, when they are unable to cover valuation or lender credit assessment shortfalls."  

Mr Williams said there was a silver lining for some first home owners, with some snapping up apartment bargains at the expense of investors.

"Prospective property buyers of off-the-plan apartments should always speak to a professional mortgage broker because we understand the appetite of each of our panel of lenders and can help secure the right finance," he said.
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本帖最后由 Hetbert 于 2018-11-15 00:42 编辑

我没搜到新闻上说的这个中文广告,不过搜到几个卖出的,还有一个类似要亏本送印花税转的:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ ... outhbank/1183429486



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这篇报道说,中国买家四年前买的布里斯本的楼花,无法贷款后,给出24%的折扣后有富人大量接盘了。

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Ex-Macquarie banker buys bulk apartments in Brisbane tower
Matt Cranston AFR Woodcut by Matthew Cranston
Former Macquarie banker Andrew Hooper-Nguyen and his business ­partner, the co-founder of ASX-listed Excel Coal, Chris Ellis, have made a bulk purchase of brand new apartments at Rich Lister Tim Gurner's FV tower in Brisbane where there have already been discounts of up to 24 per cent on sales made four years ago.

FV, a three-tower project in Fortitude Valley on the Brisbane city fringe, was arguably Mr Gurner's most ambitious and riskiest project.

Launched in 2014, three apartments in the project have resold this year for discounts of between 2 per cent and 24 per cent on their original off-the-plan purchase price as tightening finance restricts local and foreign buyers in particular. The third and final tower of the FV project is still under construction.

Last month The Australian Financial Review reported that billionaire pokies king Len Ainsworth had swooped on a collection of newly-built Brisbane apartments by as Metro Property for a discount of about 15 per cent off their original price.

"Market weakness has been caused by over-supply, and to a large degree, regulatory measures which have artificially ...
"Market weakness has been caused by over-supply, and to a large degree, regulatory measures which have artificially dampened lending to investors and foreigners," Mr Hooper-Nguyen said.
The sale of apartments in Mr Gurner's FV tower to the ex-Macquarie banker and his business partner's property vehicle Casanova Property are recorded in land titles as rebated sales and range from $391,800 for a 52-square metre to a $474,800 for a 56-square metre property.

Mr Hooper-Nguyen, who also purchased other apartments in the project through another four separate vehicles, declined to comment on the purchases.

However he said the inner-Brisbane apartment market represented a "once-in-a-decade opportunity" for value investors.

"Market weakness has been caused by over-supply, and to a large degree, regulatory measures which have artificially dampened lending to investors and foreigners," Mr Hooper-Nguyen told the Financial Review.

"However, the over-supply is working itself out far quicker than most observers had expected due to a strengthening Queensland economy, strong net migration and record price differentials with Sydney and Melbourne unit prices

Launched in 2014, apartments in the project have sold this year for discounts of up to 24 per cent on their original ...
Launched in 2014, apartments in the project have sold this year for discounts of up to 24 per cent on their original off-the-plan purchase price.
He said there was still strong rental demand - especially for high-quality developments - with yields roughly double those of Sydney.

"The Brisbane market is supported by a strong public and private investment pipeline; and will unlikely suffer the post-exuberant price appreciation hang-over currently being experienced in other cities."

He also said the Fortitude Valley - where Mr Gurner's FV tower is located, was coming of age.

"I lived in both Richmond and Surry Hills (in Sydney) during their gentrification; and the same is now happening in Fortitude Valley, West End and the CBD."

Mr Hooper-Nguyen declined to comment on the purchase but said the inner-Brisbane apartment market represented a ...
Mr Hooper-Nguyen declined to comment on the purchase but said the inner-Brisbane apartment market represented a "once-in-a-decade opportunity" for value investors. Supplied
Earlier this year, the Financial Review reported sales discounts of as much as 27 per cent in Lendlease's The Green high rise development.

Then in October it was revealed that apartment buyers in what will be Australia's third tallest building, Brisbane's 92-storey Skytower, were scrambling to find top-up funds after valuations ordered by banks dropped by as much as 25 per cent.

Much of the buying and big losses on apartments has been borne by Chinese buyers.

In July, an off-the-plan buyer in Mr Gurner's FV tower sold out of a 51-square-metre apartment for $308,000 after having purchased it for $407,000 off the plan in 2014.

Mr Gurner declined to comment. ANZ Bank funded construction of the FV development. The third and final tower in FV is ...
Mr Gurner declined to comment. ANZ Bank funded construction of the FV development. The third and final tower in FV is still under construction. Scott McNaughton
Mr Gurner said there had only been one sale "we know of" at a discount of 24 per cent

"That was to a foreign purchaser who could not get funding from local banks a few months after settlement and had no option but to sell immediately– a situation that is very unfortunate and is due to current funding environment,' Mr Gurner said.

He said that there had only been a very small number of resales in the development

'It has been amazing to see that only a handful of sales from original purchasers have re-sold given there are 651 apartments and it is a great sign for the market that people have faith in the product and future of Brisbane.

One of the private spa rooms, available for residents to rent out for free.
One of the private spa rooms, available for residents to rent out for free. Supplied
'The building has been fully tenanted since the 2nd month of being open and there is huge rental demand within the building which is a great sign for the Brisbane market'

He welcomed Mr Hooper-Nguyen and Mr Ellis investment.

'It is a very positive thing for Brisbane to see such sophisticated investors getting involved in a market that is now looking to the next cycle of growth'

'We were thrilled to have Andrew and Chris as investors in the project as they really believe in the project and what the future holds for the Brisbane market'.

ANZ Bank funded construction of the FV development.
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54平米的房子40万,疯了!真把澳洲当香港来操盘了。

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水分还能再挤一挤。

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日本人己经在三十年前做过同样的事啦。
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Gumtree卖房 还需要说什么

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厉害了。澳媒想着方的看笑话
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CalmDownOK 发表于 2018-11-15 07:15
Gumtree卖房 还需要说什么

不要小看gumtree啊,已经成功转手不少楼花了。

投资者含泪补贴首置业。

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如果要房价腰斩的话,首当其冲的就是Apt / 楼花了吧  

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进来看澳洲第一高楼在哪
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54平米40万,在国际上也不算贵,新加坡私宅54平米没有少过六七十万的,香港估计更贵

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投资者含泪补贴首置业。

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投资者含泪补贴首置业。

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澳洲某大中介在国内主推,现在还在推,省印花

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juntz 发表于 2018-11-15 10:42
54平米40万,在国际上也不算贵,新加坡私宅54平米没有少过六七十万的,香港估计更贵 ...

墨尔本地都在百姓手里,只要花钱随便买,要多大就有多大的地,可以说不限量供应,所以没法比;     香港新加坡没地,要么地全在政府手里限制开发,人家贵有贵的道理
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借贴问下楼主,比特币怎么看,5000多了
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iLeac 发表于 2018-11-15 15:41
借贴问下楼主,比特币怎么看,5000多了

嗯,我觉得5000美金可以做长线。

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Hetbert 发表于 2018-11-15 15:59
嗯,我觉得5000美金可以做长线。

那继续等等

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价格太高了,有人接盘吗?

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现在接盘的 再过1年又要去guntree注册账号了
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revstar 发表于 2018-11-15 06:16
54平米的房子40万,疯了!真把澳洲当香港来操盘了。

你不在悉尼吧。悉尼rhodes火车站旁在建的楼花。1房要78万。面积也就50多
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Hetbert 发表于 2018-11-15 09:30
不要小看gumtree啊,已经成功转手不少楼花了。

投资者含泪补贴首置业。

竟然联系人不是说自己在海上或者海外不易联系地方,竟然不用PayPal交易!!!
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Hetbert 发表于 2018-11-15 15:59
嗯,我觉得5000美金可以做长线。

这两天的下跌怎么情形?ETH又回到了184USD

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revstar 发表于 2018-11-15 06:16
54平米的房子40万,疯了!真把澳洲当香港来操盘了。

墨尔本市中心40万房子买54平米,每平米才7400澳元,连中国的三线城市都比不上,更不用跟香港比了。

香港现在均价是每平米19万,换算后是每平米34000澳元,是墨尔本市中心豪华最高楼房价的5倍。就连最便宜的新界房价也是墨尔本市中心的房价的3倍。

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估计就有几个大字辈的中介在里面,还天天吃龙虾,其实急的到处要脱手自己的愚蠢债务,把子孙后代一起亏进去咯
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neoy12 发表于 2018-11-15 17:19
你不在悉尼吧。悉尼rhodes火车站旁在建的楼花。1房要78万。面积也就50多

买的都是SB

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juntz 发表于 2018-11-15 10:42
54平米40万,在国际上也不算贵,新加坡私宅54平米没有少过六七十万的,香港估计更贵 ...

请参见上海房价,澳币40万只能去外环二手。

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对门老王 发表于 2018-11-15 17:52
又来瞎吹。
19万什么单位?港元啊,又不是人民币。


就贴你发的图,自己计算,你看我有哪句是瞎吹。





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revstar 发表于 2018-11-15 06:16
54平米的房子40万,疯了!真把澳洲当香港来操盘了。

54平米是实际使用面积么?

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