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[外汇债券] 油价,和经济危机的解决办法:更新(16楼),大家小心了 [复制链接]

发表于 2008-12-30 10:45 |显示全部楼层
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俺之前曾经说,有人纷纷出来唱空原油到$20的时候,它的底部就在眼前了。现在,大家都看到了。

危机的解决没有大家想的那么困难。总是有赢家有输家的,这个俺以前粗略的分析过。既然不能大家都过得好,那就让别人过不好。极限状态当然是发达国家间的世界大战,但这次危机并非严重到那样。那就看局部的战争!俺判断印巴就是欧洲人挑起来的。原因是这样,欧洲人很清楚自己将会是这场危机的大输家,于是就先下手为强希望搞乱亚洲以求自保。印巴、东南亚政局不稳,都是他们搞的。而现在,以巴就是米国佬搞的。表面看还是米国佬在中东的利益,但俺看,这次更有深意,矛头是指向欧洲人滴,这个大家继续观察。短期内还可以观察另一个枭雄俄国佬要搞点啥名堂。

至于胡哥,只要牢牢控制好东亚的局势(中日韩虽然决不是真正的朋友,但都是米元贼船上的团伙,这次还是要沉瀣一气滴),又严防印巴、东南亚动荡的影响,就一定能够跟总导演一起享受赢家的快乐。。。。

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发表于 2008-12-30 21:47 |显示全部楼层
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这场危机只要20-30年就能过去,最多也就五十年

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看来明年真的有仗可打。
现在就等奥巴马上台, 看看是否换汤不换药了。

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原帖由 burnh 于 2008-12-30 22:47 发表
这场危机只要20-30年就能过去,最多也就五十年


兄台平时都是很高见,唯独这次。。。
印钞效果有限了,但只要开上2、3场大片,拼它个6月至1年,立马把大家注意力吸引了,谁还记得什么经济危机?大炮一响,黄金万两,拼完又是5到10年的繁荣。。。
Isn't that simple?

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Tell it like it is

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Reading the news these days you could well get the impression that we are not just seeing the end of capitalism. No, what is happening in front of our eyes is the end of the world. The German newsmagazine Der Spiegel just had a front page with a picture of a dollar note where a bullet had been shot through the head of George Washington. Der Spiegel called it “the capital crime” and announced “a world crisis that has only just begun”.

Other magazines tell the same story. In October, there was a grim looking black and white picture of a queue outside a soup kitchen on the cover of Time magazine. Apparently it wanted to prepare us for a rerun of the 1930s which Time called “The new hard times”.

Meanwhile, the British Economist’s graphic designers have been the most creative illustrators of the economic crisis. Every week now, it seems, they manage to come up with a new way of reminding us that we are living in truly dangerous times. In September they had a picture of a maelstrom, pulling skyscrapers and banks into the abyss. The headline consisted of just two words and a question mark: “What next?” The Economist gave the answer two weeks later with the silhouette of a man looking down from a high cliff. “World on the edge” The Economist proclaimed, but this time without a question mark.

After all the doom and gloom in these magazines, there could hardly be an increase in drama although I am still waiting for the headline “We’re all dead but we don’t know it yet.”

Do these headlines remind you of something? Only a few months ago there were some similar doom and gloom stories on the covers of the world’s magazines. But they had nothing to with economics, collapsing banks and the like. Last year’s end of the world was all about climate change, of course. Soon large parts of the world would become uninhabitable, they claimed, and then followed the well-known litany of floods and droughts, rising sea levels, famines and new diseases and ultimately the end of the world. It seems as if the media only had to change the subject, but not their general apocalyptic tune. Today’s end of capitalism is yesterday’s global warming.


But climate change was not the first end of the world story, either. If we only go back over the past twenty or thirty years, we have had all sorts of things which were thought to threaten the world as we know it. Think of AIDS, SARS, BSE, asbestos, the Millennium Bug, passive smoking, radiation, the end of oil, bird flu, and the limits of growth. Looking through the archives of the front covers of Der Spiegel, Time and The Economist I would estimate that at least a quarter of them have always been about some new crisis which was thought to bring disaster, if not the end of the world. If only a fraction of them had turned out to be true we probably would not be here today.

Christopher Booker and Richard North, two British journalists, last year published a book about our lust for Armageddon which was aptly called Scared to Death. In their book they go through the origins of a number of scare stories which frightened us in the past – none of which, I should add, was an economic scare story. But although these scares were all quite different, ranging from salmonella in food to road safety, they showed a number of features which they all had in common. They all started from some plausible assumptions, but soon they developed a life of their own. Journalists like to pick up on scares. Trying to sell a newspaper with big, bad news is tempting. Headlines like the classic “Small Earthquake in Chile; Not Many Dead.” simply don’t improve your paper’s circulation. “The end is nigh” is a much better selling point.

The other thing that most scare stories have in common is that in a sense it does not really matter in the end whether the threat is real or not. A catastrophe that stubbornly refuses to happen has never damaged the reputation of those who had previously warned of it. Think of the members of the famous Club of Rome who predicted in the 1970s that the world had reached the limits of growth and mass starvation and abject poverty would be the future for billions of people. What followed was quite the opposite of their predictions, but far from being discredited the Club of Rome keeps publishing its doom-mongering reports until the present day.

These days it is scarcely possible these days to read a newspaper, listen to the radio or watch TV without being bombarded by economic crisis stories. There seem to be hardly any other stories left that are worth reporting. And indeed, the problems of the world economy are big and the dangers real. But I cannot help feeling that the way the media have pushed the crisis has made matters worse than they should have been. Ludwig Erhard, the father of the German Wirtschaftswunder (the post-war 'economic miracle'), is often quoted estimating that fifty per cent of economics is psychology. Perhaps I would not go that far. But if it is true that our current economic crisis is predominantly a crisis of trust, then we can understand the significance of the media. Put simply, trust cannot be restored if the media keep frightening us. Take Northern Rock, the first British bank run in more than a century. When it happened, Northern Rock was not bankrupt but it simply could not access additional funds to continue its aggressive mortgage lending. The impression that Northern Rock customers got from a number of sensationalist reports on BBC TV programmes was quite different, though, and it was this impression that triggered the run on the bank.

Ludwig Erhard once said that it was easy to forgive false prophets if things turn out better than they had predicted. If that is true then there is no cost to making exaggerated prophecies of doom. When they are wrong we will readily forgive them, and if not then the doomsayers can always say “We told you so!” From a game theory point of view, pessimism seems to be a good strategy. You cannot get closer to a free lunch than by predicting the end of the world.

But there is another thing that most scare stories have in common. They are often used by special interest groups to promote their own agenda and increase their funding or revenue. It is not difficult to see how this works. Jump on the bandwagon of a crisis, and as a scientist you can campaign for better research grants. Applying for funds to analyse the mating behaviour of beetles in North Queensland has higher chances of success if you include a reference to the impact of climate change. Lawyers made a killing out of compensation cases for largely hypothetical damage from asbestos. Car manufacturers like Toyota have long understood that subsidies can be gained if only they claim to offer a solution to global warming. And we should not forget that governments and politicians also love these crises: “You have a problem? Let us fix it for you!”

In the observation of Christopher Booker and Richard North new threats almost never fail to increase the size of government. Wherever there seems to be a problem governments are quick to pass new laws, spend more money and establish new regulatory agencies. Surprisingly, these new institutions remain in existence even when the threat has disappeared. Remember the German Waldsterben, the dying of the forests? In the early 1980s it was believed that acid rain would kill Germany’s forests within a few years, and the German government started compiling an annual ‘state of the forests’ report as an emergency measure. Today, Germany’s forests are bigger than ever – but trees are still being felled for new ‘state of the forests’ reports.

You may wonder what all this has to do with our current economic crisis? Where is the connection between mad cows and mad bankers, you may ask. But I think that there are quite a number of parallels between the usual scare stories and the economic crisis. Nevertheless, let me state quite clearly that there is one big difference, too. Most other scare stories belonged to the realm of imagination. The Millennium Bug, for example, seemed to be a huge threat to mankind, but in the end it did not do any real harm – apart from the billions of dollars that were pointlessly spent to prevent planes from falling off the sky, lifts being stuck and power stations shutting themselves down.

The financial crisis is of a different dimension and it is real. Real damage has been suffered by financial institutions around the world, and the damage is substantial. The Bank of England estimated that the crash had cost financial institutions around the globe the incredible sum of $US2.8 trillion. (Bank of England, Financial Stability Report 2008). Other calculations show even higher figures. According to CNBC the US government and Federal Reserve have already committed more than $4.2 trillion to various assistance schemes. How much the final bill will be nobody can say. It is clear, however, that we are dealing with a crisis of dramatic proportions and there is no point denying it.
回忆是红色的天空

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原帖由 alyssa 于 2008-12-30 22:57 发表
看来明年真的有仗可打。
现在就等奥巴马上台, 看看是否换汤不换药了。


您一看O8马就是真正的有为青年,指哪打哪那种。。。
小布什那个叫智商太低、演技太差。
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呵呵,fit哥还不了解我,我是玩扯蛋,您分析的很实际,很细致,很远见,我早就发现了,说您的帖子我都是睡觉前回味三遍

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原帖由 wil 于 2008-12-30 23:31 发表


不晓得您想说什么,一看这么长的英格利殊就烦。

俺这么多年来就只有一个看法,而且很简单:
global warming、climate change 是个 joke。

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文章大概说喜欢唱衰的媒体每次讲的故事情节可能有变,但故事主题从来不变:世界没落,人类灭亡

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真气逆转,乾坤颠倒,好一个蛤蟆功,欧阳锋才是天下第一.

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原帖由 揸fit人 于 2008-12-30 23:48 发表


您一看O8马就是真正的有为青年,指哪打哪那种。。。
小布什那个叫智商太低、演技太差。



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O8蟆 是不是更形象些。

2008年度奖章获得者

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呵呵,LZ11月的时候预测中国股市这一波到3500.。。。不知道这一波是不是也要波到几年以后了噢。

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原帖由 揸fit人 于 2008-12-30 23:48 发表


您一看O8马就是真正的有为青年,指哪打哪那种。。。
小布什那个叫智商太低、演技太差。


奥巴马要是有为青年,
那KEVIN RODD算是啥人呢?
现在世界领导都换了一碴,该打打了。。。

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可惜,很多人又要为经济危机牺牲了,这次牺牲的是生命。

发表于 2009-1-4 23:20 |显示全部楼层

油价,和经济危机的解决办法:最新进展,大家小心了

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俺的这个帖子之后,很快又发生了一些事情。大家看看,联系一下俺之前的判断。
1.俄国佬的天然气,就是在俺帖子后发生的。但俺预测俄国佬的名堂不会停留在这个程度。大家接着看。
2.米国佬对以巴局势的表演,在安理会投的反对票。反战示威在欧洲如火如荼、引人注目,在米国比较风平浪静。
3.如此一来,俺预测欧洲人(英法)很快会派出第二批恐怖分子去亚洲闹事了。印巴不干起来,东南亚不乱,丫们是不会甘心的。但如果亚洲乱不起来,眼露凶光的列强会看上富饶但弱小的澳洲的。这个大家现在就开始提高警惕了。。。




原帖由 揸fit人 于 2008-12-30 11:45 发表

俺之前曾经说,有人纷纷出来唱空原油到$20的时候,它的底部就在眼前了。现在,大家都看到了。

危机的解决没有大家想的那么困难。总是有赢家有输家的,这个俺以前粗略的分析过。既然不能大家都过得好,那就让别人过不好。极限状态当然是发达国家间的世界大战,但这次危机并非严重到那样。那就看局部的战争!俺判断印巴就是欧洲人挑起来的。原因是这样,欧洲人很清楚自己将会是这场危机的大输家,于是就先下手为强希望搞乱亚洲以求自保。印巴、东南亚政局不稳,都是他们搞的。而现在,以巴就是米国佬搞的。表面看还是米国佬在中东的利益,但俺看,这次更有深意,矛头是指向欧洲人滴,这个大家继续观察。短期内还可以观察另一个枭雄俄国佬要搞点啥名堂。

至于胡哥,只要牢牢控制好东亚的局势(中日韩虽然决不是真正的朋友,但都是米元贼船上的团伙,这次还是要沉瀣一气滴),又严防印巴、东南亚动荡的影响,就一定能够跟总导演一起享受赢家的快乐。。。。





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原帖由 揸fit人 于 2009-1-5 00:20 发表
俺的这个帖子之后,很快又发生了一些事情。大家看看,联系一下俺之前的判断。
1.俄国佬的天然气,就是在俺帖子后发生的。但俺预测俄国佬的名堂不会停留在这个程度。大家接着看。
2.米国佬对以巴局势的表演,在安理 ...


澳洲好像还不够给列强塞牙缝吧,能被看上吗?

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原帖由 揸fit人 于 2009-1-4 23:20 发表
俺的这个帖子之后,很快又发生了一些事情。大家看看,联系一下俺之前的判断。
1.俄国佬的天然气,就是在俺帖子后发生的。但俺预测俄国佬的名堂不会停留在这个程度。大家接着看。
2.米国佬对以巴局势的表演,在安理 ...

但如果亚洲乱不起来,眼露凶光的列强会看上富饶但弱小的澳洲的。这个大家现在就开始提高警惕了。。。


It seems to be right!! Geeeeez!

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