关于 compassionate leave

Holiday4jo

万能的足友们请帮忙解释一下这个员工的情况，我该付她 compassionate leave吗？

一个full-time的员工，从一月开始开始做IVF， 然后就每个月都有一两天请病假或事假，她的sick pay & holiday pay都快被她用光了。 结果上周 二她得知她肚子里的宝宝胎停了，我们都很为她难过。上周她只工作了一天，其他4天因为过度伤心而无法上班 。 这周她回来了。她给我一个医生开的假条-4天sick day， 可是她的sick pay不够4天。她问我可不可以take compassionate leave,我网上查了查，看不懂啊 。请大家帮忙解释一下吧，先谢谢啦。

Holiday4jo

Can someone please share your opinion-- thank you in advance.

ryol1234

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leav ... riods-of-sick-leave


When paid sick leave runs out

When an employee has run out of paid sick leave, they can take unpaid leave if they aren't fit for work because they are sick or injured.

If the employee is on unpaid sick leave, they can’t be fired if:

they have been away for 3 months or less and
they provide evidence of their illness or injury.


When an employee is away for longer than 3 months

If an employee has used all their accumulated sick leave and is on unpaid leave for more than 3 months and they are dismissed by their employer, the termination is not automatically unlawful. The 3 month absence can include a combination of paid sick leave and unpaid leave over a 12 month period.

The normal rules for a termination still apply and the employee may dispute the termination by:

making an unfair dismissal application if the reason for the dismissal is harsh, unjust or unreasonable or
making a general protections claim if the reason for the dismissal is because of the employee’s disability.
Source reference:

Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) sections 351, 352 and 385 external-icon.pngFair Work Regulations 2009 (Cth) regulation 3.01 external-icon.png

ryol1234

1. She can take unpaid sick leave if her paid sick leave runs out.
2. You can't fire her for being sick if the sick leave adds up to less than 3 months.

Holiday4jo

ryol1234 发表于 2016-4-28 14:51
1. She can take unpaid sick leave if her paid sick leave runs out.
2. You can't fire her for being s ...

谢谢您的回复。 我知道这只能关键时刻不能辞她。 但如果apply compassionate leave, 我该付工资给她吗？还是算unpaid leave ?

ryol1234

Holiday4jo 发表于 2016-4-28 15:39
谢谢您的回复。 我知道这只能关键时刻不能辞她。 但如果apply compassionate leave, 我该付工资给她吗？ ...

Should be unpaid sick leave. Compassionate leave only applies to distressed family members.

donotgo

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/maternity-and-parental-leave/pregnant-employee-entitlements
Special maternity leave

A pregnant employee who is eligible for unpaid parental leave can take unpaid special maternity leave if:

she has a pregnancy-related illness or
her pregnancy ends after 12 weeks because of a miscarriage, termination or stillbirth.
If an employee takes special maternity leave because of a pregnancy-related illness, the leave will end when the pregnancy or illness ends, whichever is earlier. If she takes leave because of a miscarriage, termination or still birth it can continue until she is fit for work.

超过12周流产的话可以有产假吧。。

Holiday4jo

donotgo 发表于 2016-4-28 16:42
https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/maternity-and-parental-leave/pregnant-employee-entitlements
Specia ...

她还没有超过12周。。。。

麻辣小龙虾

compassionate leave不是需要DEATH CERT. 吗？这个没法给的
所以我认为应该不能给 compassionate leave, 只能unpaid leave

stonefx

donotgo 发表于 2016-4-28 16:42
https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/maternity-and-parental-leave/pregnant-employee-entitlements
Specia ...

产假不是员工的entitlement, 雇主不用付钱.

stonefx

麻辣小龙虾 发表于 2016-4-29 14:29
compassionate leave不是需要DEATH CERT. 吗？这个没法给的
所以我认为应该不能给 compassionate leave, 只 ...

基本没那么严,要这个certificate了

stonefx

不用付compassionate leave.

这个leave只付给员工当这个员工的直系亲属挂掉或者重伤之类的时候,包括:
spouse
de facto partner
child
parent
grandparent
grandchild
sibling, or a
child, parent, grandparent, grandchild or sibling of the employee's spouse or de facto partner.

未出生的小孩不算. 另见最近一个case,有个垃圾攻击怀孕的女的导致差不到一个月就可以分娩的孩子流掉了.法院没有判杀人,只判了伤人,罚酒三杯过去了.

所以土澳未出生的bb不被归到人类,自然也不是直系亲属--多么2的法律.....

Holiday4jo

stonefx 发表于 2016-4-29 14:38
不用付compassionate leave.

这个leave只付给员工当这个员工的直系亲属挂掉或者重伤之类的时候,包括:

谢谢您及时的回复。 我本来今天准备转账给她呢，工资单都打好了。 看到你的贴后，决定再好好看看条款。 谢谢

gifox

麻辣小龙虾 发表于 2016-4-29 14:29
compassionate leave不是需要DEATH CERT. 吗？这个没法给的
所以我认为应该不能给 compassionate leave, 只 ...

看公司政策吧，我申请的时候就不需要任何证书。
人和人之间总不能这点信任都没有吧。

我记得hr和我说是每服务1年可以申请2日。
不过我忘了是不是每年10日的sick（personal，carer)  leaves里面的一部分（等于不需要医生证明放了4日病假），因为对我来说没差，病假用不完又没有办法兑现。

安生syd

stonefx 发表于 2016-4-29 14:38
不用付compassionate leave.

这个leave只付给员工当这个员工的直系亲属挂掉或者重伤之类的时候,包括:

你最后那个案例，是真事？

安生syd

stonefx 发表于 2016-4-29 14:38
不用付compassionate leave.

这个leave只付给员工当这个员工的直系亲属挂掉或者重伤之类的时候,包括:

有链接么，发个看看

stonefx

gifox 发表于 2016-4-29 21:16
看公司政策吧，我申请的时候就不需要任何证书。
人和人之间总不能这点信任都没有吧。

compassionate leave不算入personal leave。一个亲人去世可以拿两天。

stonefx

安生syd 发表于 2016-4-29 23:48
有链接么，发个看看

fairwork nsw官网有

stonefx

安生syd 发表于 2016-4-29 23:48
有链接么，发个看看

2014年一个39周婴儿被毒驾还是酒驾的撞死，只罚了几百刀和几个月驾照suspense。原因未出生stillborn的has no right in a court of law。
现在这个母亲还在上诉，自行google新闻

红宝石小屋

Employees can take compassionate leave if: a member of their immediate family or household dies, or contracts or develops a life-threatening illness or injury. a baby in their immediate family or household is stillborn. they have a miscarriage.

旧手迹

楼主是自己开公司的？

zl5431

该。请见https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leav ... d-bereavement-leave

Wy2009

楼主你也可以提前预支她的annual leave。多年前我也遇过这种情况 当时新入职 没有什么假 又需要请假手术，当时老板就照付工资 但是我的sick leave还是annual leave balance 变成负的 以后再慢慢还