暴雪承认“后游戏”游戏性不足

bats

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6019511928#17



Edited by Bashiok on 7/3/12 12:58 PM (PDT)

We recognize that the item hunt is just not enough for a long-term sustainable end-game. There are still tons of people playing every day and week, and playing a lot, but eventually they're going to run out of stuff to do (if they haven't already). Killing enemies and finding items is a lot of fun, and we think we have a lot of the systems surrounding that right, or at least on the right path with a few corrections and tweaks. But honestly Diablo III is not World of Warcraft. We aren't going to be able to pump out tons of new systems and content every couple months. There needs to be something else that keeps people engaged, and we know it's not there right now.We're working toward 1.0.4, which we're really trying to pack with as many fixes and changes we can to help you guys out (and we'll have a bunch of articles posted with all the details as we get closer), and we're of course working on 1.1 with PvP arenas. I think both those patches will do a lot to give people things to do, and get them excited about playing, but they're not going to be a real end-game solution, at least not what we would expect out of a proper end-game. We have some ideas for progression systems, but honestly it's a huge feature if we want to try to do it right, and not something we could envision being possible until well after 1.1 which it itself still a ways out.

rayki

确实。无休止的MF。。  有点后气不足了。喜欢通过游戏赚钱的人的估计还可以。
期待新的版本和更多的信息。

companymj

1-2年后来个资料片是必须滴，再后来就不清楚了。

holyplague

This is Diablo not WOW. You will get PVP, but that's about it. However it looks like they gonna @#$% with MF to force ppl to use RMAH more, if they do that, that's the final straw and GG for me.

dalaohu

嗯，如果掉落始终是垃圾，把大家都往RMAH逼的话，那就可以画句号了。
pvp出来也改变不了什么，没人愿意一身垃圾去pvp的。
觉得吧RMAH取消才好。

团结的腹肌

这东西跟股票一样, 不知道哪天砸在谁手里, 有一天没人玩了, 再JP的装备都没人要了

bats

原帖由 holyplague 于 2012-7-5 14:19 发表
This is Diablo not WOW. You will get PVP, but that's about it. However it looks like they gonna @#$% with MF to force ppl to use RMAH more, if they do that, that's the final straw and GG for me.

I think that's just thoughts from BZ China branch?

workflow

原帖由 团结的腹肌 于 2012-7-5 14:31 发表
这东西跟股票一样, 不知道哪天砸在谁手里, 有一天没人玩了, 再JP的装备都没人要了

还有很多潜在玩家没没入手，可是这样下去，对这些玩家的吸引力会越来越差，

rayki

原帖由 dalaohu 于 2012-7-5 14:30 发表
嗯，如果掉落始终是垃圾，把大家都往RMAH逼的话，那就可以画句号了。
pvp出来也改变不了什么，没人愿意一身垃圾去pvp的。
觉得吧RMAH取消才好。

有同感.. AH。已经够了。 RMAH其实不是让大家好好玩游戏。。是教大家如何倒买倒卖。 呵呵。

holyplague

原帖由 bats 于 2012-7-5 14:38 发表

I think that's just thoughts from BZ China branch?

ha?

datace2004

pvp会怎么搞呢？伤害和血量不成比例，大家都是暴击一下远超现有血量的:)

PACIFIC

还要减去抗性啊

henghengi

个人认为可能会借鉴wow的模式。打怪的装备在pvp中可能就是个垃圾。

bats

原帖由 datace2004 于 2012-7-5 15:50 发表
pvp会怎么搞呢？伤害和血量不成比例，大家都是暴击一下远超现有血量的:)

d2这类吸血技能pvp减半的

companymj

1-2年后来个资料片是必须滴，再后来就不清楚了。

ingeer

D3沒有團隊合作, 不會有WOW後來各種RAID, 最後的稻草就是PVP, 到時不管是AH還是RMAH都會火得不行啊, 想爽就花個幾百刀搞一身超強裝去虐小明.. 砍人守屍的感覺是很爽滴..


而且可以借鑒WOW, 每隔個半年推一季更強裝備, 不火個5,6年也難啊!

[ 本帖最后由 ingeer 于 2012-7-5 16:21 编辑 ]

seth_chen

呵呵，D3刚出来的时候我发过一个帖子，说D3的游戏模式挺想我玩过的一个网页游戏dead frontier的，现在看来，dead frontier的游戏性比D3好多了

D3有的模式DF都有，此外DF还有所有玩家合作共同作战抵抗僵尸入侵的模式

bats

原帖由 seth_chen 于 2012-7-5 16:52 发表
呵呵，D3刚出来的时候我发过一个帖子，说D3的游戏模式挺想我玩过的一个网页游戏dead frontier的，现在看来，dead frontier的游戏性比D3好多了

D3有的模式DF都有，此外DF还有所有玩家合作共同作战抵抗僵尸入侵的模式

那也是学d2的好不好

xiaoyuewanli

你别忘记有减伤了，你现在一下暴击10w，减伤95%，一下才5000而已

holyplague

原帖由 datace2004 于 2012-7-5 15:50 发表
pvp会怎么搞呢？伤害和血量不成比例，大家都是暴击一下远超现有血量的:)

现在的怪没甲没抗性， 所以。。。

holyplague

原帖由 ingeer 于 2012-7-5 16:20 发表
D3沒有團隊合作, 不會有WOW後來各種RAID, 最後的稻草就是PVP, 到時不管是AH還是RMAH都會火得不行啊, 想爽就花個幾百刀搞一身超強裝去虐小明.. 砍人守屍的感覺是很爽滴..


而且可以借鑒WOW, 每隔個半年推一季更強裝備, 不火個5,6年也難啊!

来人阿， 有个没睡醒的