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[信息讨论] FXCM滑点欺客,再次被NFA罚款200万,且将向客户返还部分款项 [复制链接]

发表于 2011-8-16 17:03 |显示全部楼层
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FXCM滑点欺客,再次被NFA指责并被罚款200万,且8月底前将向客户返还部分款项。

虽然我一直用FXCM Active Trader,最近并没有发现什么价格操纵行为,但因此也下定决心转向ECN Broker。在此再次赞扬梦版主的高瞻远瞩、明灯指路,2年前就警告大家应避免使用FXCM。

NFA fines FXCM $2 million for slippage malpractices, FXCM will credit clients back
Posted by Michael Greenberg in Brokers, Regulation

Apparently Non Dealing Desk doesn’t mean you get the best execution – NFA has just announced that it heavily fined FXCM for slippage malpractices. FXCM will pay $2 million directly to NFA and will compensate all customers who suffered from this practice since June 2008. The details of this case are not much different from the similar fine of $459k which NFA imposed on Gain Capital for using the Virtual Dealing plugin and similar slippage settings.

FXCM seems to have taken this matter seriously and already started compensating clients as one of them sent me the following email:

Dear Client:

We have important news regarding your Forex Capital Markets, LLC (FXCM US) trading account(s). Last year, FXCM enhanced its No Dealing Desk forex execution by making Price Improvements (positive slippage) available on all orders. We have reviewed your past trading data and your account(s) has been identified to receive a price improvement credit.

Account Number(s): xxxxx

Price Improvement Credit(s): x

The credit will be deposited into your FXCM trading account(s) and will be available by August 28, 2011.

The details of NFA’s Complaint and Decision:

COMPLAINT:

On August 12, 2011, NFA issued a Complaint charging FXCM with retaining gains derived from positive price slippage; failing to adopt or carry out adequate procedures to ensure the efficient execution of all customer orders; failing to treat all customers equally when giving price adjustments; and failing to adequately investigate suspicious activity in all customers’ accounts. The Complaint charged FXCM and Niv with failing to supervise.

DECISION:

On August 12, 2011, pursuant to a settlement offer submitted by FXCM and Niv, FXCM was ordered, within 30 days of the effective date of the Decision, to make a good faith effort to credit the accounts of its customers the amount of positive slippage which its customers experienced on their trades from and after June 18, 2008. FXCM shall provide verification to NFA of these credits. In addition, FXCM was ordered to pay $2,000,000 to NFA as a monetary sanction. In the future, FXCM will not engage in price slippage or margin liquidation practices; and, in the future, when FXCM voluntarily gives a customer a price adjustment, it shall also determine whether or not it is appropriate to make the same price adjustment for other similarly situated customers.

Finally, within 30 days of the effective date of the Decision, FXCM was ordered to adopt and implement adequate procedures – or enhance existing procedures – to ensure the efficient execution of customer orders and to ensure compliance with NFA’s AML requirements.

Update – FXCM’s official statement:

NEW YORK, NY – August 12, 2011 – FXCM Inc. (NYSE: FXCM), a global online provider of foreign exchange (forex) trading and related services to retail and institutional customers worldwide, announced that its U.S. subsidiary, Forex Capital Markets LLC (“FXCM US”), has entered into a settlement with the National Futures Association (“NFA”). The settlement terms principally pertain to FXCM US’s practice concerning the execution of price improvements or “positive slippage” in its trading execution system prior to August 2010. The Company is also engaged in ongoing discussions with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (“CFTC”) regarding this matter.

FXCM US originally enhanced its trading execution policy in August 2010 to help ensure that clients benefit from positive slippage on all market, limit and limit entry orders. The policy was further enhanced in December 2010 to address all order types, including stop and margin call orders, through FXCM’s No Dealing Desk (“NDD”) forex execution model.

Under the terms of the settlement, FXCM US has agreed, without admitting or denying any of the allegations, to pay a fine of $2 million to the NFA and to provide restitution, which the company estimates to be $8 million, to the affected clients. As disclosed on August 11, 2011 during its Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call and in related filings, the Company is making a reserve for both the restitution and fine associated with this settlement and for its ongoing discussion with the CFTC. Certain partners of FXCM Holdings, LLC have agreed to reimburse the expense in substantially the amount of such reserve, resulting in no impact to the net income of FXCM Inc. All clients receiving restitution will be notified within 30 days. Details for FXCM US clients can be found at www.fxcm.com/clients.jsp.

“We are pleased to have reached an agreement that resolves the NFA’s concerns and that we believe is in the best interests of FXCM, our shareholders and most importantly, our clients,” said Drew Niv, Chief Executive Officer of FXCM. “We previously enhanced our execution system to pass along all price improvements on every order type and remain committed to providing the most robust forex trading platform available.”

FXCM’s platforms display the best bid/ask spread streamed from the firm’s liquidity providers plus FXCM’s mark-up. Every FXCM NDD forex trade is automatically offset in a two-step process, designed to ensure that FXCM does not profit from a trader’s losses. In the first step of the execution process, a trader clicks on the price and the order is sent to FXCM. In the second step, FXCM automatically sends the client’s order to one of its liquidity providers to offset the trade.

FXCM’s execution system prior to August 2010 only offered price improvements to clients in the first step of the process. If a better price became available on FXCM’s platform in the fraction of a second after the client submitted the order but before the order was received by FXCM, the client would benefit from the price improvement. However, FXCM’s previous execution system did not provide clients with price improvements in the second step of the execution process, even if FXCM was able to offset the order at a better price, excluding FXCM’s markup. FXCM enhanced the execution system in 2010 so that clients now benefit from price improvements in both steps of a transaction for all order types.

The occurrence of price improvements is based on market conditions, including volatility and liquidity. Of the approximately $8 million being credited to FXCM US clients under this settlement, approximately $650,000 represents trades placed in 2010, less than 0.3% of the company’s trading revenues during that period. The largest portion of the credits relate to trades placed before 2009. For the portion of clients who are receiving restitution, the median amount will be $17.40.

As part of the settlement, FXCM also agreed to enhance its existing procedures to ensure the efficient execution of customer orders, modify its adjustment practices and to ensure compliance with NFA’s anti-money laundering requirements.

Mr. Niv added, “FXCM continues to strengthen its compliance program and internal supervisory procedures.”

http://forexmagnates.com/nfa-fin ... redit-clients-back/

[ 本帖最后由 flame21 于 2011-8-16 17:06 编辑 ]
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发表于 2011-8-16 17:11 |显示全部楼层
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FXCM,FXPRO.FXDD,CMS都是这类名气大,口碑差

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原帖由 flame21 于 2011-8-16 17:03 发表
FXCM滑点欺客,再次被NFA指责并被罚款200万,且8月底前将向客户返还部分款项。

虽然我一直用FXCM Active Trader,最近并没有发现什么价格操纵行为,但因此也下定决心转向ECN Broker。在此再次赞扬梦版主的高瞻远瞩、明灯指 ...


FXCM好像是被NFA处罚次数最多,罚款数目最多的borker。

澳洲的公司我也用了很多,没发现一家不滑点的。MM都是那个德性,如果超短做的好,会有软件来控制订单成交时间和滑点。

更牛B的市我在一家axi打头的公司里面拿到一个莫名其妙的价格,离当时K线最高价差30几点(没错,是差30几点,你没看错)!

中间处理过程拖了几天,那个仓也不告诉我怎么做,最后解释是市场瞬间出现过那个价格,但它们平台的报价没来及得更新上去,MD最后亏了一千五百多刀,他们又不肯负责,要我自己承受……

经此一事,我对澳洲的外汇公司不抱什么希望了,即烂又不讲基本的商业道德。

[ 本帖最后由 猎梦人 于 2011-8-16 17:20 编辑 ]
醒着做梦

发表于 2011-8-16 17:29 |显示全部楼层
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30点算啥啊,看把猎梦人激动的—— 去年初的某天,当时eSignal波澜不惊的,FXCM Active Trader报价在我眼前硬生生出来个70点的价差。
跟eSignal实时放一起的截图咱都还保留着呢,好像发上来过一次。

发表于 2011-8-16 17:35 |显示全部楼层
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另有一有趣的内幕小道消息:
日内瓦某大型trading group的投资人爆料,数个大型投资机构在上周美国股市暴跌中受创,将转战外汇市场——可能通过瑞士的银行。
他们的原话是"Save Heaven"。

[ 本帖最后由 flame21 于 2011-8-16 17:36 编辑 ]

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发表于 2011-8-16 17:36 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 flame21 于 2011-8-16 17:29 发表
30点算啥啊,看把猎梦人激动的—— 去年初的某天,当时eSignal波澜不惊的,FXCM Active Trader报价在我眼前硬生生出来个70点的价差。
跟eSignal实时放一起的截图咱都还保留着呢,好像发上来过一次。


你这个价差是当时平台上有出现过那个价格吧?

而我那个价差是则在平台上根本就没有出现过的价格,而他们拖了两三天的解释居然是报价太快,没办法更新到平台上去……

这样的理由都能说得出口……

[ 本帖最后由 猎梦人 于 2011-8-16 17:39 编辑 ]
醒着做梦
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平台没出现就太过分了。

我正在考虑Dukascopy,很多人向我推荐过这家。就是国际转账有些麻烦。

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原帖由 flame21 于 2011-8-16 17:38 发表
平台没出现就太过分了。
什么叫“太平”?难道是“太频”?

我正在考虑Dukascopy,很多人向我推荐过这家。就是国际转账有些麻烦。


更正了……打错。

新换了个输入法,用起来不习惯,经常打白字。
醒着做梦

发表于 2011-8-17 23:09 |显示全部楼层
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Dukascopy听说以前要五万美金才能开户,但最近我看的时候,居然是:
ECN,可以交易Micro lot,1000美金就可以开户???
这好得太不像话了,让我倒是有点怀疑了。
又听别的broker说Dukascopy是俄罗斯人在瑞士开的公司,挂瑞士银行的名字......

唉,都不知道怎么选!

退役斑竹

发表于 2011-8-17 23:43 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 flame21 于 2011-8-17 23:09 发表
Dukascopy听说以前要五万美金才能开户,但最近我看的时候,居然是:
ECN,可以交易Micro lot,1000美金就可以开户???
这好得太不像话了,让我倒是有点怀疑了。
又听别的broker说Dukascopy是俄罗斯人在瑞士开的公司,挂瑞士银行的名字......

唉,都不知道怎么选!


我觉得1000块micro lot的交易很可能都是客人的交易在内部对冲,跟MM的做法一样。

做ECN肯定不如做MM来钱快,这市场本身一百个人里能有两三个稳定盈利的就不错了,而这几个稳定盈利不错恐怕累死也赚不到那些亏损客户交易的20%,剩下的全是broker赚的。

所以可以说只要有客户和资金量,开个外汇公司就跟开赌场一样,是暴利的买卖。
醒着做梦

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才罚200w啊
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原帖由 未名湖 于 2011-8-17 23:47 发表
才罚200w啊


坛子里面有个八卦贴不是说某banker内幕交易,获利200万,判入狱1年半,罚款11万。。。等于1年半赚190万

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原帖由 anvil 于 2011-8-17 23:50 发表


坛子里面有个八卦贴不是说某banker内幕交易,获利200万,判入狱1年半,罚款11万。。。等于1年半赚190万


这个非法所得不没收的啊?
醒着做梦

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原帖由 anvil 于 2011-8-17 23:50 发表


坛子里面有个八卦贴不是说某banker内幕交易,获利200万,判入狱1年半,罚款11万。。。等于1年半赚190万


坐牢的年收入很高啊!

发表于 2011-8-25 13:44 |显示全部楼层
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大家也都是说哪个broker不好,到底哪个broker好呢???
FXpro, Go Market, MIG, ThinkForex, OANDA,哪个好点??

发表于 2011-8-26 23:02 |显示全部楼层
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如果只是几个之间选,上面几个我选Oanda。
IB真的不错,从来没听说有什么严重欺诈,不过界面实在无法理解...
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最可笑的是在中央电视证券频道上节目的rocoforex,说是澳洲平台,地址是70 pitt st,其实那里根本就没那个公司,还有ecn forex,aftforex 都说自己是澳洲平台,地址是假的不说,澳洲联系电话外包给一个call centre,他们骗的就是中国人!
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澳洲平台个人认为能做有三家,axistrader,vantage forex和 gomarket,他们才是真正澳洲公司,而且全是stp模式

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