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[外汇债券] 货币与投资鸟瞰(Investment Overview) [复制链接]

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发表于 2009-12-4 20:34 |显示全部楼层
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This thread is to answer #2 of [1] and our American friends who have quite different types of problems.  If you have a deep understanding of economy theories, you know the exchange rates are part of economic equations.  In a way, fluctuation of exchange rates is like “waves” [2] in stocks, bonds, and real estate prices.  It is difficult to profit from currency fluctuations.  When I hear from an innocent who claims he/she or someone familiar can make tidy living by participating currency exchanges, I feel sorry for this guy because this cannot be true long term.  The “wave” of currencies can be quite long.  I remember after the US 2001 tech bubble bust, foreign monies still rushed into the US.  In fact, they were part the reason causing the current financial crisis [2].  Another reason was government interference in the property market as discussed in [3].  I remember then newspaper headline was whether Aussie dollar would fall below US$0.5.  In my opinion, long term Aussie/US exchange rate should be somewhere around US$0.8.  

Let us now consider investment return for residential property in the US.  It is somewhat complicated but my observation is that long term return in the US is inflation + 2% per year.  The 2% is due to demographics, I.e. increase in population.  On the other hand, the Australian residential property market should return inflation + 4% per year.  The difference between Australian market and the US market is mainly due to immigration influx.  For investment in stock market measured by market index, the US market and Australia market return about equal.  

If you have Aussie dollars, the first consideration on investment is still investment in Australia stock market index.  If you want to take advantage of high Aussie dollar, you may convert some into US dollars and then invest in US market index such as SPY or SP500 index.  It does not make sense to buy US property unless you want live there.  

For our American friends, you need to take long term perspective.  If you invest in either stocks or homes, you gain little, if any, in the last 10 years.  However, if you read the book “Stocks for the Long Run”, such 10 years intervals occur quite a few times.  If you have 5 to 10 year horizon, I still think the best investment strategy is to invest in stock index.  If you invest in individual stocks including new technologies, be careful.  Consider various aspects of the companies.  When the US dollar is so low, investing in other assets is not on the table.  

Finally, one may wonder the Aussie residential property market is a bubble.  Incidentally, [4] is a good article.  China’s property market has two problems.  One is high vacancy rate (the article mentioned only commercial properties).  The other one was government interferences.  Australia market does not have similar problems.  Steep drop in Aussie property market is not likely to happen unless there are unexpected external factors.  

Note: Please use http://www.boxun.com/hero/tianliang/ for discussion.  

[1] 投资闲谈
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1
[2] 韩家亮:次贷危机和投资浅谈
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=20909
[3] 王蔚:次贷危机的根本原因是政府干预市场
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=22711
[4] 中国地产巨大泡沫正在形成
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=24322

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发表于 2009-12-5 00:14 |显示全部楼层
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"I hear from an innocent who claims he/she or someone familiar can make tidy living by participating currency exchanges, I feel sorry for this guy because this cannot be true long term."
I agree, but unfortunately speculators ALWAYS consider themselves as INVESTORS---LONG TERM

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I am pretty sure you are a 投资达人,and I really love your work.

But I am not sure if you have any knowledge about marketing and i am not sure about the purpose of your contribution here.
I guess you want to educate people about investment which is a fabulous idea.
Unfortunately your knowledge might be too far away from being understood by the audience here.
My suggestions for you:
(1) Write everything in Chinese as much as possible, maybe a mix of Chinese and English. If they are written in English, people won't even bother try to read it.
(2) Express your ideas about something close to our life such as Interest rate, small business, personal tax. if you want to talk about share market, you can give comments on share selection.

Your stuff is very well written, but IT CAN BE A WASTE if not many people on this forum appreciate your work.
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Thanks.  I have given up on this forum in general and this bbs in particular on investment.  I use English because, as mentioned in the beginning, I want my Indian, Aussie, American friends to be able to read.  Also see
http://boxun.com/hero/200904/tianliang/2_1.shtml
http://boxun.com/hero/200912/tianliang/2_1.shtml
Economics professors usually know English not Chinese.  

黑山老妖 wants to keep politics out investment discussion.  This is impossible and unfair.  Heard about a discipline known as Political Economy?  Freedom of speech gives Karl Marx to publish his work even though they were against the world history.  Freedom of speech should also give Falung Gong and RBY to talk.  
http://boxun.com/hero/200909/tianliang/11_1.shtml

If you want discussion, go to my blog.  I will continue writing there.  I use this bbs because I got a friend in China who cannot reach my blog.

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原帖由 jlhan 于 2009-12-5 07:43 发表
Thanks.  I have given up on this forum in general and this bbs in particular on investment.  I use English because, as mentioned in the beginning, I want my Indian, Aussie, American friends to be able ...

不是很明白, 你想Indian, Aussie, American friends to read, 都不想中国人能读
张五常能出名, 不是因为他能写英文, 是因为他能写中文
如果杨小凯只写英文, 估计不如现在那么有名

建议你多读张五常, 多理解他为什么写中文的原因

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原帖由 Brother 于 2009-12-5 00:30 发表
I am pretty sure you are a 投资达人,and I really love your work.

But I am not sure if you have any knowledge about marketing and i am not sure about the purpose of your contribution here.
I gues ...

我不觉得是投资达人, 最多也就是理论上的, 一个中国人, 天天抱着英文, 不写中国经济, 好极有限

欧洲股神重出江湖称中国未来十年充满机会
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发表于 2009-12-5 08:06 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 jlhan 于 2009-12-4 20:34 发表
This thread is to answer #2 of [1] and our American friends who have quite different types of problems.  If you have a deep understanding of economy theories, you know the exchange rates are part of e ...

这篇文章更是搞笑, 短短一篇文章, 中外, 外汇, 房产, 经济无所不写
看完都不知讲了什么

发表于 2009-12-5 08:14 |显示全部楼层
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[1] 投资闲谈
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1
[2] 韩家亮:次贷危机和投资浅谈
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=20909
[3] 王蔚:次贷危机的根本原因是政府干预市场
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=22711
[4] 中国地产巨大泡沫正在形成
http://my.cnd.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=24322
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看来半天, 完全没有自己的观点, 当然我也没有任何得益

发表于 2010-2-3 18:41 |显示全部楼层
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命题太大,所以文章一开始就注定‘言之无物’。

发表于 2010-3-15 22:46 |显示全部楼层
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到底哪本书是教股票的?我也想学习,有朋友能帮忙确认一下书名吗?

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