房市没有泡沫，需求大大的有

liuhaiyang

近来此版块比墨尔本的房市还要火，东南西北众说纷纭，周末走访一个朋友，开车途径一拍卖现场
来让我们看看北面的房市，和鬼佬的热情
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi ... c&tm=1249862091
这个房子在OAK PARK，与pascoe vale临近的这边，地728，近火车站，位置很好，房子很旧，基本上只是卖地
经过的时候拍卖已经开始，只看到下半场，据说是40多万起拍，我环顾四周，就我一个华人还是看热闹的。99.9%是鬼佬，我心想，火不起来，没咱华人捧场，怎么可能卖到好价。
鬼子拍卖确实与华人区大大不同，特别的温和，没有谁喀嚓8000，10000的加价，华人拍卖那叫一个激烈，仿佛要用钱把对手砸死的架势。鬼佬慢悠悠地，声音也不大，手也举不高。
大家竞猜，这个最后卖了多少？
拍卖结束，我和第二名闲聊了一会儿，第一名是2个男的进屋签证去了，年青的30多岁，老的有50岁。第二名不肯走，站在原地还在遗憾，我问他买个旧屋子干啥，他说这个地够盖3个，我说政府不会批，他说应该会的，要看怎么设计BLAHBLAH....中介也假惺惺走过来安慰他
忘记说了,看拍卖的人很多,车子停了一条街,我看这房市一时还冷不下来.

frankielynna

55w.

villa

原帖由 frankielynna 于 2009-8-10 10:24 发表
55w.

查了一下记录，一分钱不多，一分钱不少，就是55万。。。:)

语阁

真便宜呀，卖的，看这个链接，在高压线下面，还卖535k
http://www.realestate.com.au/105816006

liuhaiyang

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:si19 :si19 :si19
传说中的恐怕分子集中地，JACANA, GLENROY都能卖这个价？？很大可能是被恐怕分子买去啦，在里面制造炸弹。

daly_rui

550 for the oak property is very cheap, you can build 1 two level town house and 2 units on that block. There is alot of similar land with 1 townhouse and 2 unit on it. just check google map you can see alot of similar sub-division. it is only 11km to city and it is close to train station, moreland city council encourage high density living now because it is close to city. a town house will sale to around 450 in oak park area, it is very popular to the young white professional people whose parents live in essendon and strathmore but they can not afford in those area. glenroy is a different story.

语阁

原帖由 daly_rui 于 2009-8-10 11:47 发表
550 for the oak property is very cheap, you can build 1 two level town house and 2 units on that block. There is alot of similar land with 1 townhouse and 2 unit on it. just check google map you can s ...

所以我觉得有些人脑袋被门挤扁了，550k的不拍，去拍高压线，靠近高速公路，还临着widford大街。想不通呀

Hot

OAK PARK not bad!

买房子啊

墨尔本的房子很cheap

frankielynna

原帖由 villa 于 2009-8-10 10:33 发表

查了一下记录，一分钱不多，一分钱不少，就是55万。。。:)

LZ BZ的分分在哪里？

villa

原帖由 frankielynna 于 2009-8-10 12:01 发表


LZ BZ的分分在哪里？

分分来了。。。

redsummer

原帖由 daly_rui 于 2009-8-10 11:47 发表
550 for the oak property is very cheap, you can build 1 two level town house and 2 units on that block. There is alot of similar land with 1 townhouse and 2 unit on it. just check google map you can s ...

I totally agree with you, a few years ago, I talked with a sales consultant of real estate in Glenroy,he strongly suggested me to buy house in Oak Park,instead of Glenroy.
at that time I prefer to a property in glenroy, I thought glenroy is better than oak park, cause more shops in glenroy.whereas he told me that Oak Park is totally different with Glenroy, I asked him why? he was just smiling not answer my question. and then he told me that Oak Park is nice area, similiar with Pascoe Vale and strathmore, but Glenroy is more like broadmeadows.........

if the new owner can build 3 units on this block, he will make money easily,but depend on council

frankielynna

BZ 忽悠我！！！

oceangoing

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RAYS

Glenroy is not good suburb but it is good for investment due to its high rent yield.

a 2 bed room old unit is around 320k in Glenroy can rent to 300 dollars a week. which rent yield return of 4.8%

a 2 bed room old unit in Oak park is around 380-400k and is rent is about 320 a week which yield a annual return of 4.2%.

That is why glenroy unit is very popular with investors.

melanee

没有华人抢就是卖得便宜阿，这房子位置很好。

小叮当

I have a few Chinese friends who bought a unit/townhouse in Glenroy, Oak Park & Pascoe Vale. I believe that these areaes will grow faster than eastern area without worrying about the falling property price if any. In the meanwhile,it is close to the city (20mins by train and car) and it is in zone 1. People who are poor will be pushed out from those areaes. That is the change we saw in Carlton, Brunswick and Coburg.

RAYS

房子越离CITY和海边近的越贵（如果地是一样大的），这是不变的道理，不过这也是相对的，东边的15公里可能和西边，北边12公里的一样， GLENWAVELY除外，应为GLENWAVELY自成一个小CITY. 离海近也很popular, 这也就是为什么西边的YARRABILE, SPOTWOOD,WILLIAMSTOWN非常的贵. 南边的elwood,elsterwick,brighton一直到sandringham就更不要提了.

Sarah可可

原帖由 RAYS 于 2009-8-10 21:05 发表
房子越离CITY和海边近的越贵（如果地是一样大的），这是不变的道理，不过这也是相对的，东边的15公里可能和西边，北边12公里的一样， GLENWAVELY除外，应为GLENWAVELY自成一个小CITY. 离海近也很popular, 这也就是为 ...

GLENWAVELY离海很远了啊，抢的人多应该主要因为学校好吧~

RAYS

haha,glenwaverly和海近是分开的两句话。 Glenwaverly学校是一方面， 但glenwaverly学校好一部分是因为华人上的多，就好想为什么现在Boxhill SC超过了Glenwaverly SC一样，这是一种鸡和鸡蛋的问题。

oceangoing

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taoyuan

原帖由 RAYS 于 2009-8-10 23:28 发表
haha,glenwaverly和海近是分开的两句话。 Glenwaverly学校是一方面， 但glenwaverly学校好一部分是因为华人上的多，就好想为什么现在Boxhill SC超过了Glenwaverly SC一样，这是一种鸡和鸡蛋的问题。

不要忽视glen waverley附近的industrial area, mulgrave, clayton, clayton south, scoresby, ferntree gully等等，还有学校monash,deakin，包括tafe.华人只是一个方面，我想很大的支持应该来自附近工业区。

Melbourner1978

原帖由 taoyuan 于 2009-8-11 10:24 发表



不要忽视glen waverley附近的industrial area, mulgrave, clayton, clayton south, scoresby, ferntree gully等等，还有学校monash,deakin，包括tafe.华人只是一个方面，我想很大的支持应该来自附近工业区。

好像挨着工业区的房子都不贵吧

taoyuan

原帖由 Melbourner1978 于 2009-8-11 10:27 发表

好像挨着工业区的房子都不贵吧

一般情况人不会第一选择住在工业区，但是会选择靠近工业区。比如说我自己，开车15钟从家到单位，就是从glen 附近的住宅区到附近的工业区。身边的同事大部分也都是这样。所以，这是个人选择生活/工作方式的一种平衡和妥协。比如，有人找到city的工作，但又不能在city附近买房子，所以要选择交通便利的地区，也是这个原因。房市的需求最终是生活的需求，工作的需求，交通的需求，教育的需求等等的集合体，个人侧重点不同。因此还是要选择最适合自己的。

redsummer

大家怎么都认为55万这个价钱便宜呢？我倒认为挺贵了
同样是700左右的地，在BURWOOD也就卖55万左右，也是很旧的房子。
当然这个还可以出租住人，BURWOOD那个基本是风雨飘摇了。
几乎同样状况的房子，和如此优越的地理位置在mt waverley也才要60万到65万。
所以说现在北面近city地区的房价和地价和东南方向相差不是很多在目前。
所以下一波东南的启动将要和已经开始了

RAYS

Burwood's price has all ready gone up over the last 3 years and I dont think you can get 700sqm block near train station in burwood for under 600k provided the block can build 3 units. the suburb profile for burwood and oak park, pascoe vale is very similar, they are close to prestiage suburbs, ofcouse the prestage suburbs on east is much more better than north west. but essendon and strathmore are very good also, they are classic white people suburb with good private and public school.

bemystar

这个房子的核心就是开发.
不同的concil对townhouse/unit的态度是截然不同的

redsummer

原帖由 RAYS 于 2009-8-11 11:38 发表
Burwood's price has all ready gone up over the last 3 years and I dont think you can get 700sqm block near train station in burwood for under 600k provided the block can build 3 units. the suburb prof ...

你说的对，
我说的burwood那个旧房子不是在burwood火车站附近而是很临近burwood east了，就差了一条大马路就是burwood east，或许是这个原因吧，所以相对真正burwood区的房子要便宜。
中介开价是550，最后多少成交的就不知道了

ilovefamily

原帖由 villa 于 2009-8-10 10:33 发表

查了一下记录，一分钱不多，一分钱不少，就是55万。。。:)

便宜，我是不知道，知道我也买。。。。

但买下来怎么办？再贷款开发？？？
具体有同学算过吗？这样开发到底赚不赚啊。。我怎么算，赚钱比较困难啊？或赚得不多，还不如投资别的呢？

[ 本帖最后由 ilovefamily 于 2009-8-11 16:24 编辑 ]

RAYS

the person who brought the oak park property is a developer, most old house/land in pascoe vale, oak park bigger than 700 is brought by developer. 5