和电话公司打官司能索赔多少钱？

fljrc

1.        march 2018.I have met a Vodafone dealer named Henry in Mascot Hotel. His telephone number is +614222222.He told me he could get me a good deal for a Vodafone business plan. It was a good deal, even though I don’t need six telephone numbers. My contract was from the 25/03/18 – to 25/03/20. My last payment was on the 15th of March, 2020. This is a two-year contract, but I can have three new phones every year. That means in this two year contract, I can have six phones. Your Vodafone dealer Henry never gave me a normal contract paperwork. We used message talking each other.
2.        On the 15th of April, 2019, I asked for three new phones. I did this, because according to the two-year contract, every year, I can get three new phones. In the messages on the 18th of May, 2018 and on the 4th of March, 2019.
3.        On the 2nd of May, 2019, broker Henry let me ring Vodafone to ask for three new phones, I didn’t know Vodafone wanted me to change my contract to a new contract. That means in this day, I need to have another two-year contract. I thought that this is my contract and that I am entitled to three new phones after one year. That means that I can get six new phones over the course of my two-year contract. In the first year, I paid $300/month and in the next year, I paid $360/month. I confirmed this contract through messages. Vodafone said that I agreed to change my contract because I ringed this phone number. My English was not good enough to understand your dealer’s thick accent. I never agreed to change my contract; how stupid would people be to change their contract for no reason? Vodafone tricked me like this because I cannot fully understand English, especially English with a thick, Indian accent. You can find evidence from this from my messages around this date; I always confirm by message.I am smart people so I always keep evidence in message.I keep all message from begging.
4.        On the 15th of June, 2019, I found out that Vodafone charged me $2,600 from my bank account without my premise. It caused my savings account to go into negative, which caused me big problems because I had to pay another bill from this account. I find that my contract has been changed without my permission. The broker later returned me $2,200, because he charged me $300 this month. This $2,200 was a contract changing fee, which means I never agreed to change the contract. Otherwise, why would your dealer refund me $2,200. I sent a message to your dealer many times to make sure my contract was until the 25th of March, 2020. On the 2nd of May, 2019, I messaged your broker many times that my contract was $360/month, and that my last payment would be until the 15th of March, 2020. My two-year contract would finish on the 25th of March, 2020.
5.        Around July of 2019, Vodafone stopped my service suddenly one day, because I didn’t pay money to them but the reason was because Vodafone did not fix my contract to the correct contract, and then I went to the Vodafone office in North Sydney, explaining to them my situation. The manager who’s email is: Rob@vodafone.com.au. He reopened my mobile phone service. Another time, on the 15th of January, 2020, Vodafone stopped my service again because I didn’t pay money. Until today, Vodafone still haven’t fixed my payment amount to the correct number. And on this day, I went overseas, I couldn’t contact my family and friends. I have to ask for another number at another company. These two times that my service was stopped, Vodafone didn’t have correct contract and payment amount for me. So this is no reason for Vodafone to stop my service.
6.        I reported this to TIO. TIO’s result was that they accepted to change my contract back to my correct contract in the first place. The current contract is a: two-year contract, the term was from the 25th of March, 2018, to the 25th of March, 2020. Every year, I was entitled to three new phones, which means in this two-year contract I could receive six new phones. In the first year, I paid $300/month and in the next year I paid $360/month.
7.        My TIO reference number is: 2-28313377992
8.        In February, 2020, Vodafone stopped my mobile number: 0415......, which I have used for ten years causing me another big, big, big problem. You must give me big compensation. On the 5th of November, 2020, Australian Debt Recoveries gave me a bill and asked me to pay $4961.86. How bad is your company; how did you calculate this sum of money. In the normal contract, I only owed five months worth of bill; meaning $1,800. After I argued with your Vodafone company, you never gave me the correct bill. I asked you to fix my bill many, many, many times but you never have fixed it. Even you after you got judgment from TIO. TIO said that my contract was until 25th of March, 2020. Five months that I didn’t pay you which equals around $1,800. But you stopped my service last 3 months.How do you calculate this amount, nearing $5,000? You should explain to the tribunal and court. I will ask you to pay me big, big, big compensation. I will get legal advice to know how big of a sum you will pay me. I never have owed anybody any money, I already used Vodafone for over 10 years and have never owed any money.

fljrc

律师费多少钱？悉尼的。

Ronin8317

你每月付了Vodafone$ 360吗?

tony_wang99

.I am smart people so I always keep evidence in message.I keep all message from begging.，，，，，哈哈

tony_wang99

这么大段，其实就是最后的一点是关键，，，，继续tio 啊，，，，，，

TRE

就这事找律师？它们可都是吃人不吐骨头的哦

Mr.Yuan

楼主您不擅长总结的话这样的帖子没多少人会看完。

yl002

2018年3月1日。我在Mascot酒店遇到了一位名叫Henry的沃达丰经销商。他的电话是+614222222。他告诉我，他可以为我提供一份沃达丰的商业计划。即使我不需要六个电话号码，这也是一笔不错的交易。我的合同是从25/03/18 –到25/03/20。我最后一次付款是在2020年3月15日。这是一份为期两年的合同，但是我每年可以购买三部新手机。这意味着在两年的合同中，我可以拥有六个手机。您的沃达丰经销商亨利（Henry）从来没有给我一份正常的合同文书。我们用消息互相交谈。
2.在2019年4月15日，我要求购买三部新手机。我这样做是因为按照两年的合同，每年我可以购买三部新手机。在2018年5月18日和2019年3月4日的消息中。
3.在2019年5月2日，经纪人亨利（Henry）让我打电话给沃达丰（Vodafone）要求购买三部新手机，我不知道沃达丰（Vodafone）要我将合同更改为新合同。这意味着在这一天，我需要再签订一份为期两年的合同。我以为这是我的合同，一年后我有资格购买三部新手机。这意味着在两年的合同期内，我可以购买六部新手机。第一年，我每月支付$ 300，第二年，我每月支付$ 360。我通过邮件确认了这份合同。沃达丰说，我同意更改合同，因为我给这个电话号码打了电话。我的英语不够好，无法理解您经销商的口音。我从未同意改变合同；人们无缘无故地改变合同是多么愚蠢？沃达丰之所以这样欺骗我，是因为我无法完全理解英语，尤其是带有浓重印度口音的英语。您可以从这个日期前后的邮件中找到证据。我总是通过消息来确认。我是聪明人，所以我总是在消息中保留证据。我避免所有消息乞讨。
4.在2019年6月15日，我发现沃达丰在没有我的前提下从我的银行账户向我收取了2,600美元。这导致我的储蓄帐户变为负数，这给我造成了很大的问题，因为我不得不从该帐户支付另一笔账单。我发现未经我的许可我的合同已更改。经纪人后来退还我2200美元，因为他本月向我收取了300美元。这2200美元是合同变更费，这意味着我从未同意更改合同。否则，您的经销商为什么要退还我$ 2,200。我已多次向您的经销商发送消息，以确保我的合同到2020年3月25日为止.2019年5月2日，我多次告知您的经纪人我的合同为$ 360 /月，我的上一次付款是到2020年3月15日为止。我的两年合同将于2020年3月25日完成。
5.在2019年7月前后，沃达丰有一天突然停止了我的服务，因为我没有付钱给他们，但是原因是因为沃达丰没有将我的合同确定为正确的合同，然后我去了北沃达丰办事处悉尼，向他们解释了我的情况。电子邮件管理员是：Rob@vodafone.com.au。他重新打开了我的手机服务。到了2020年1月15日，沃达丰又一次因为我没有付款而停止了服务。直到今天，沃达丰仍未将我的付款金额固定为正确的数字。在这一天，我去了海外，无法与家人和朋友联系。我必须在另一家公司索要另一个电话号码。两次停止服务后，沃达丰就没有正确的合同和付款金额。因此，这并不是沃达丰停止服务的原因。
6.我将此报告给TIO。 TIO的结果是他们一开始就同意将我的合同改回我的正确合同。当前合同为：两年合同，期限从2018年3月25日至2020年3月25日。每年，我都有三部新手机的使用权，这意味着在这份两年合同中，我可能会收到六部新手机。第一年，我每月支付$ 300，第二年，我每月支付$ 360。
7.我的TIO参考号是：2-28313377992
8.在2020年2月，沃达丰停止了我的手机号码：0415 ......，这已经使用了十年，这给我带来了另一个很大，很大，很大的问题。你必须给我大笔赔偿。 2020年11月5日，澳大利亚债务追回款给了我一张账单，要求我支付$ 4961.86。您的公司有多糟糕？您如何计算这笔钱。在正常合同中，我只欠了五个月的账单。意思是$ 1,800。我与您的沃达丰公司争论之后，您从未给我正确的账单。我要求您无数次地修正我的帐单，但您从未解决过。甚至在您获得TIO的判决后。 TIO表示，我的合同要到2020年3月25日为止。五个月后，我没有向您付款，金额约为1800美元。但是您最近3个月停止了我的服务，如何计算这笔接近5000美元的金额？您应该向法庭和法院解释。我会要求您向我支付巨额赔偿。我将获得法律建议，以了解您将付给我多少钱。我从来没有欠任何人钱，我已经使用沃达丰超过10年，也从未欠任何钱。

yl002

我帮大家google翻译了。。。
看起来还舒服点。。。

蚝

这是一份诉状吗？

fljrc

Ronin8317 发表于 2020-11-6 07:30
你每月付了Vodafone$ 360吗?

对

fljrc

我想知道可以要求赔多少钱？ 1.改合同没有我同意2拿2600元从我的账户没有我同意3停我的服务在合同错误，付款金额错误的情况下，我多次让给改回正确的情况下，4不解决问题反而吓唬我5找追债公司，破坏我的信用记录6，利用我英语听力不好，欺骗我，我所有的事情都是用信息，改合同这样的事情我会打电话吗？我在打电话以前用信息确认我的合同，打电话以后我也反复强调我的合同，当我发现我的2600元钱被拿走，我立即联系中介，他也退钱给我，这怎么是我同意改合同了？我的合同是用信息反复强调，反复确认的。

UCaT

TRE 发表于 2020-11-6 08:56
就这事找律师？它们可都是吃人不吐骨头的哦

肯定是找律师，足友这不负责任瞎猜难道比律师更靠谱么

子午

楼主你英语不好就不要找说英文的店员，找个说中文的不香吗，虽然说中文的也会骗你但不至于被骗这么多。

这种活没有免费律师接的，你只有接着tio，赔了就当买经验教训了

我没有钱

好奇那些开口闭口就是律师的，有多少人是真正自己请过律师并且上庭打完过一单case的（不管输赢）？

fljrc

子午 发表于 2020-11-6 20:05
楼主你英语不好就不要找说英文的店员，找个说中文的不香吗，虽然说中文的也会骗你但不至于被骗这么多。

这 ...

为什么赔？我一定会教育他们的，我想知道的是我可以让这个电话公司赔我多少钱？

squall2001

如果律师把诉状写成这样，这个律师可以直接退休了。找cutomer affair比上庭有用，vodafone这么大的公司不缺法律部门。

一开口就是vodafone赔你多少钱，我也是醉了。
正常的逻辑是vodafone的行为给你造成多少损失，加上无形的伤害，然后去打民事官司求偿。

楼主也是心大，没有正常的合同文档就签约了，也不知道是怎么签的。

最后，我只能说 good luck！

fljrc

我自己写的

小胖子吃辣肉面

能不能精炼一点
就说哪里违约了 废话别说

labixiaoxing

fljrc 发表于 2020-11-6 20:51
为什么赔？我一定会教育他们的，我想知道的是我可以让这个电话公司赔我多少钱？ ...

那得看你的律师多厉害了

f221644

去tribunal不需要律师的

fljrc

f221644 发表于 2020-11-8 08:32
去tribunal不需要律师的

明白！我要多少钱？我赢是一定的！自信的很，我想的是赔偿金额从1000元-100万元澳币

b10862035

fljrc 发表于 2020-11-6 15:06
我想知道可以要求赔多少钱？ 1.改合同没有我同意2拿2600元从我的账户没有我同意3停我的服务在合同错误，付 ...

法院不是這樣說的
不是他們可以陪你多少錢
是你想要他們陪妳多少錢

當然 價錢要reasonable, 大多都有公定價
你得說說他怎樣引響你 你想要多少錢 為什麼 例如 因為這件事情 讓你去看醫生 失眠 失業 等等

fljrc

Telstra承认在对土著消费者推销手机计划时有不道德行为，可面临最高5000万澳元的罚款。

这家电信公司承认违反澳洲消费者法，今天澳洲竞争和消费者委员会ACCC宣布他们正在准备把Telstra告到联邦法庭。

在乡村和偏远地区的一些财务顾问提出严重质疑后，ACCC对此事调查了18个月。

去年财务顾问们告诉澳广说Telstra向消费者出售他们负担不起的手机计划，然后有追债公司来积极讨债。

ACCC在声明中说：“Telstra承认违反了澳洲消费者法，五个有许可的Telstra品牌门店的销售人员在2016年1月到2018年8月期间让108个土著消费者签下了多个他们并不理解而负担不起的后付费手机合同。”

ACCC说 Telstra 同意接受总罚款达5000万澳元的命令，但是最终还得由法庭来决定Telstra应该付多少。

ACCC主席Rod Sims说：“这个案例暴露了极为严重的行为问题，那就是剥削在社会，语言，文化程度和文化上都处于弱势的土著消费者。”

“尽管Telstra越来越意识到销售员工的不适当行为，他们没有快速行动以阻止。”

“这些做法继续并给土著客户带来进一步严重和本可避免的财务困难。”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020 ... ollar-fine/12922400

fljrc

完整
1.        march 2018.I have met a Vodafone dealer named Henry in Mascot Hotel. His telephone number is +614222222.He told me he could get me a good deal for a Vodafone business plan. It was a good deal, even though I don’t need six telephone numbers. My contract was from the 25/03/18 – to 25/03/20. My last payment was on the 15th of March, 2020. This is a two-year contract, but I can have three new phones every year. That means in this two year contract, I can have six phones. Your Vodafone dealer Henry never gave me a normal contract paperwork. We used message talking each other.
2.        On the 15th of April, 2019, I asked for three new phones. I did this, because according to the two-year contract, every year, I can get three new phones. In the messages on the 18th of May, 2018 and on the 4th of March, 2019.
3.        On the 2nd of May, 2019, broker Henry let me ring Vodafone to ask for three new phones, I didn’t know Vodafone wanted me to change my contract to a new contract. That means in this day, I need to have another two-year contract. I thought that this is my contract and that I am entitled to three new phones after one year. That means that I can get six new phones over the course of my two-year contract. In the first year, I paid $300/month and in the next year, I paid $360/month. I confirmed this contract through messages. Vodafone said that I agreed to change my contract because I ringed this phone number. My English was not good enough to understand your dealer’s thick accent. I never agreed to change my contract; how stupid would people be to change their contract for no reason? Vodafone tricked me like this because I cannot fully understand English, especially English with a thick, Indian accent. You can find evidence from this from my messages around this date; I always confirm by message.I am smart people so I always keep evidence in message.I keep all message from begging.
4.        On the 15th of June, 2019, I found out that Vodafone charged me $2,600 from my bank account without my premise. It caused my savings account to go into negative, which caused me big problems because I had to pay another bill from this account. I find that my contract has been changed without my permission. The broker later returned me $2,200, because he charged me $300 this month. This $2,200 was a contract changing fee, which means I never agreed to change the contract. Otherwise, why would your dealer refund me $2,200. I sent a message to your dealer many times to make sure my contract was until the 25th of March, 2020. On the 2nd of May, 2019, I messaged your broker many times that my contract was $360/month, and that my last payment would be until the 15th of March, 2020. My two-year contract would finish on the 25th of March, 2020.
5.        Around July of 2019, Vodafone stopped my service suddenly one day, because I didn’t pay money to them but the reason was because Vodafone did not fix my contract to the correct contract, and then I went to the Vodafone office in North Sydney, explaining to them my situation. The manager who’s email is: Rob@vodafone.com.au. He reopened my mobile phone service. Another time, on the 15th of January, 2020, Vodafone stopped my service again because I didn’t pay money. Until today, Vodafone still haven’t fixed my payment amount to the correct number. And on this day, I went overseas, I couldn’t contact my family and friends. I have to ask for another number at another company. These two times that my service was stopped, Vodafone didn’t have correct contract and payment amount for me. So this is no reason for Vodafone to stop my service.
6.        I reported this to TIO. TIO’s result was that they accepted to change my contract back to my correct contract in the first place. The current contract is a: two-year contract, the term was from the 25th of March, 2018, to the 25th of March, 2020. Every year, I was entitled to three new phones, which means in this two-year contract I could receive six new phones. In the first year, I paid $300/month and in the next year I paid $360/month.
7.        My TIO reference number is: 2-28313377992
8.        In February, 2020, Vodafone stopped my mobile number: 0415......, which I have used for ten years causing me another big, big, big problem. You must give me big compensation. On the 5th of November, 2020, Australian Debt Recoveries gave me a bill and asked me to pay $4961.86. How bad is your company; how did you calculate this sum of money. In the normal contract, I only owed five months worth of bill; meaning $1,800. After I argued with your Vodafone company, you never gave me the correct bill. I asked you to fix my bill many, many, many times but you never have fixed it. Even you after you got judgment from TIO. TIO said that my contract was until 25th of March, 2020. Five months that I didn’t pay you which equals around $1,800. But you stopped my service last 3 months.How do you calculate this amount, nearing $5,000? You should explain to the tribunal and court. I will ask you to pay me big, big, big compensation. I will get legal advice to know how big of a sum you will pay me. I never have owed anybody any money, I already used Vodafone for over 10 years and have never owed any money.

fljrc

谁知道

黑色迷恋

直接tio不就好了

fljrc

Tio 了，把我的合同改成了正确的合同，但是没有赔偿，为什么我需要赔偿呢？1；从我的账户拿了2600元把我的账户变成了负的，银行都赔了我100元，我的账户是存款账户，不是信用卡。2，2次给我停机，都是在错误的合同，错误的付款额的时候，我让vonfane 把合同改成正确的我再付款，但是它们不听。一直到现在也没有改。这些都对我够成了损失。