家里的花草枯萎了 谁的责任？

Alex331998

最近打算卖房，偶然经过发现前院的小树丛都枯萎了，谁的责任？？？怎么追责？？

以前和中介口头说过让租客照顾院子，中介会在下周找专业人士来看看具体什么原因导致的，我个人觉得就是不浇水。
虽然不是什么名贵花草，但是长这么大一片也花了十来年了，心疼~~

在合同里面的第38条找到了：
38. the tenant agrees to fully and regulaerly maintain and water the garden are, including the trees and shrubs. the tenant also agree to regularly weed all garden beds, water all plants and lawns, mow the lawns and trim the edges and remove all garden rubbish from the property.
下周去找中介~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rainstorm

房客除了割草以外一律不负责。
你这个中介可能有点儿外行，竟然许诺让房客干这个。

Ngshun

Rainstorm 发表于 2019-5-24 21:12
房客除了割草以外一律不负责。
你这个中介可能有点儿外行，竟然许诺让房客干这个。 ...

谁说房客不用负责任？

实习人间

Ngshun 发表于 2019-5-24 21:19
谁说房客不用负责任？

如果按照一般标准租房合同，房客确实不用负责任，房客只负责剪草坪，房东负责gardening。如果你真把维护花草责任写在合同上，房子估计也不好租出去。

捣鼓西风

确实很可惜

jhjhjhjhjh

如果花草需要房客负责的话，估计房子永远也租不出去

Alex331998

jhjhjhjhjh 发表于 2019-5-24 22:05
如果花草需要房客负责的话，估计房子永远也租不出去

合同写了 刚发现~

jhjhjhjhjh

Alex331998 发表于 2019-5-24 22:13
合同写了 刚发现~

哇，你这中介厉害！房客责任大了！那浇花的水费谁付啊？

Alex331998

jhjhjhjhjh 发表于 2019-5-24 22:20
哇，你这中介厉害！房客责任大了！那浇花的水费谁付啊？

那合同没写，后面还有追加条款，都是让租客维护的~也是刚发现，以前也没仔细看合同~

jhjhjhjhjh

Alex331998 发表于 2019-5-24 22:30
那合同没写，后面还有追加条款，都是让租客维护的~也是刚发现，以前也没仔细看合同~ ...

有点同情房客，维护花草很费事费时间不说，还要自己付水费帮你浇花，水浇少了花死了他还要陪。不如算了吧……

Rainstorm

Ngshun 发表于 2019-5-24 21:19
谁说房客不用负责任？

你有本事可以让你房客负责

katherman

这租客有点可怜啊..

joanneqi001

這個都能死一片.......

Alex331998

joanneqi001 发表于 2019-5-24 23:10
這個都能死一片.......

如图~

Alex331998

jhjhjhjhjh 发表于 2019-5-24 22:33
有点同情房客，维护花草很费事费时间不说，还要自己付水费帮你浇花，水浇少了花死了他还要陪。不如算了吧 ...

我上传图片了 你看看就能理解我的心情了

pipimaochen

今年太干旱

SRE2000

一般都不会追究这种责任的。

Purplelight

房客不同意可以不签合同 至少楼主每周还能过去浇一次水；签了合同却不落实，我觉得应该有权要求房客尽量买同种方式类似大小植物弥补.

wmwbull

租客一般不管花园的。。。房东会派园丁打理的。。。没见过租客把花园打理的干干净净漂漂亮亮的

自住房也很难做到的。。。

Ngshun

Rainstorm 发表于 2019-5-24 22:49
你有本事可以让你房客负责

我朋友上次跟义租、他的rose 花死了要我朋友赔

jhjhjhjhjh

Alex331998 发表于 2019-5-24 23:24
我上传图片了 你看看就能理解我的心情了

理解理解，真是两难啊。但是还是觉得这个租约对房客太不利了，租房之前一定要好好看租约啊

Babuza

第一次听说房客负责管理花园

Bomsori

租客花了租金給房東還要幫房東幹體力活整理花園？

房客在澳洲就是奴隸嗎? 奴隸何時可以站起來就像共和國國歌裡唱的一樣?

Ngshun

I’ve just moved into a unit in Melbourne. Who needs to maintain the gardens? How do I know?” (Tenant, VIC)

Living in a rental property with a beautiful garden can be great, especially during the spring and summer months which offer the perfect weather for entertaining. However, gardens require maintenance, and while some people are happy to plug away in the front (and backyard), most people find garden maintenance a chore.

Inevitably, garden maintenance (or lack thereof) can lead to issues between tenants and landlords. So who’s responsibility is garden maintenance? We asked Metro Property Management Director, Leah Calnan for her advice.

Leah said maintaining the garden is the responsibility of the tenant.

“However, if there is an active owners corporation in place (you will see a plaque near the letterbox), give them a call,” she said.

“You can ask them to clarify what parts of the garden are your responsibility, and what parts are looked after by their gardener.”

Have a question you would like to see answered here? Let us know!

Unless your tenancy agreement says otherwise, you can safely assume you (as the tenant) are responsible for mowing and edging the lawns, watering, weeding, pruning and fertilising – all chores which could be termed ‘garden maintenance.’

As a tenant, you are ultimately responsible for ensuring the garden is maintained to the standard set at the beginning of the tenancy.

Your landlord will generally be responsible for things such as providing hoses and sprinklers, maintaining the reticulation system, cleaning gutters and tree lopping – but this can vary in some tenancy agreements. Be sure to check with your property manager or landlord if you’re not sure.

A good property manager will help you understand your responsibilities, and with the help of a comprehensive Property Condition Report and regular inspections, will ensure these responsibilities are met.

Ngshun

Bomsori 发表于 2019-5-25 10:22
租客花了租金給房東還要幫房東幹體力活整理花園？

房客在澳洲就是奴隸嗎? 奴隸何時可以站起來就像共和國國 ...

你可以选择不租、花草也有生命的

Ngshun

Babuza 发表于 2019-5-25 10:13
第一次听说房客负责管理花园

因为你不care或你沒房子

Bomsori

Ngshun 发表于 2019-5-25 10:30
你可以选择不租、花草也有生命的

對，花草有生命，但房東自己真的在乎嗎? 自己來弄阿。

Ngshun

Rainstorm 发表于 2019-5-24 22:49
你有本事可以让你房客负责

Tenant Responsibility:Managing the garden and pool maitenance in your rental property
by Diane Bukowski
February 14, 2014
diane bukowski smallThere are some steps landlords can take to minimise the chance of a dispute with their tenants over external maitenance.  
Blogger: Diane Bukowski, Managing Director, Eezirent Pty Ltd

A real concern for many landlords is the ability and willingness of tenants to adequately maintain gardens, lawns and a swimming pool.

It seems to be more of a problem if the property has been the landlord’s principal place of residence as the gardens are likely to be more complex.

In theory, garden maintenance shouldn’t cause the issues that it does as the law is clear. Tenants must maintain and leave the property in the condition it was at the start of the lease. So, if the garden beds were weed free, the lawn mown and pool sparkling at the start of the lease – then that is what has to be in place throughout the lease and at exit – fair wear and tear excepted. Why then can this be so hard to achieve?

It is hard to find tenants interested in gardening. Let’s face it, if it is not your garden, you’d have be pretty keen to tend it as lovingly as the owner would have.  Knowledge and equipment, or lack of it, is another factor. Believe it or not, but some tenants don’t know what weeds are and have no idea that they have to be removed.  A tenant should be able to get their hands on a mower – they can be hired from most service stations these days. However, how many tenants have hoes, rakes or shovels? The cost can be an issue too. If you are charging the tenants for water consumption, they can get a bit miffed about having to water gardens and lawns. Best to come to an arrangement for this i.e. a % of the water bill is allocated for garden maintenance and is not charged to the tenant.

There are some steps landlords can take to minimise the chance of a dispute over external maintenance.  If you want the tenant’s to be responsible for gardens and lawns:
1.    Have ‘easy care’ garden beds. Perennial shrubs rather than flowers. Nurseries can advise on hardy low maintenance, drought tolerant varieties.
2.    Have all beds thickly mulched with a long lasting material. This is makes the property look attractive, reduces weed growth and conserves water. By the way, mulch decomposing is ‘fair wear and tear’ – you can’t ask a tenant to remulch garden beds at exit.
3.    Include detailed notes and plenty of photographs with the Entry Condition Report.
4.    Include the gardens and lawns in your routine inspection report. Act at that point if the tenant is not maintaining them. Don’t wait until the end of the lease.
5.    Include an instruction sheet on your expectations for garden and lawn maintenance with the sign up documents.  

Probably the best option to avoid all hassles is to include lawn and pool maintenance in the rent.  This is easily done by calculating the annual cost of these services then dividing by 52 to arrive at a weekly figure. This amount can then be added to the rent.  At the very least this should be done for pool care. Don’t trust a tenant with this job.  These expenses are a tax deduction for the landlord.

Ngshun

Bomsori 发表于 2019-5-25 10:33
對，花草有生命，但房東自己真的在乎嗎? 自己來弄阿。

你什知道房东不在乎嗎、租了人家的房子就要maintain

Babuza

原来房东发帖问人。再用马甲说话不客气