澳洲doping cases也不少的。

hughway

感觉人都是有偏见的，澳洲doping cases也不少的。

Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority website lists Australian athletes with doping violations. Australian sportspeople in doping cases lists prominent Australian athletes involved in doping cases. Athletes competing in Olympics sports found guilty of taking performance-enhancing drugs include Nathan Baggaley (canoeing), Gael Martin (athletics) and Martin Vinnicombe (cycling) and professional sports Rodney Howe (rugby league), Reni Maitua (rugby league)


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Dean Capobianco
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Sandor Earl
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Kyle Hardingham
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Adam MacDougall
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Shane Warne
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hughway

然后是美国的，好吓人，一页还装不下，需要2页。

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floodp

早说了，奥运会就应该加设嗑药组。

狗头君

有没有本届奥运选手是有禁赛记录的，这才是关键。。。

hughway

然后这个页面的doping case:    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics

澳大利亚有9个.
中国23个
美国93个
法国32个
英国16+3 = 19个
Russia 99个。

其实美国跟Russia 差不多，都应该ban掉的。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics

狗头君

hughway 发表于 2016-8-8 21:37
然后这个页面的doping case:    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics

澳大 ...

美国人措辞很狡猾啊，他们反对的是“国家机构制度性用禁药”，美国的运动员大多是私人俱乐部性质的。

hughway

然后自行车的，靠，好多。 更有大名 Lance Armstrong (USA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling

hughway

然后是这个： top 10 Most Shocking Doping Scandals In Sports History

10. Thomas Hicks – 1904   (American track and field athlete)
9. Andreas Krieger – 1986   (East Germany)
8. Diego Maradona – 1994   Argentine soccer player
7. Wu Yanyan – 2000  China  
6. Floyd Landis – 2006    American cycling
5. Alex Rodriguez – 2009  American baseball
4. Lance Armstrong – 2012  American
3. Ben Johnson – 1988 American，修正下：这是加拿大的
2. Marion Jones – 2007  American
1. Tyson Gay – 2013 American  track and field athlete

美国绝对是第一名。

hughway

狗头君 发表于 2016-8-8 21:39
美国人措辞很狡猾啊，他们反对的是“国家机构制度性用禁药”，美国的运动员大多是私人俱乐部性质的。 ...

狡猾，而且都是高科技。

如果中国要是出了象 Lance Armstrong， Ben Johnson， Marion Jones， Tyson Gay这样的长时间的吃禁药的事。肯定在体育上不让你混了。就是要你混，等运动员出场的时候，肯定会说这个国家在自行车、田径上是出了名的drug cheat.

小李飞刀

Kylie Palmer
FINA RELEASES STATEMENT ON AUSTRALIAN KYLIE PALMER’S POSITIVE DOPING TEST; EXPEDITED HEARING UNLIKELY 18 June 2015

hughway

美国的Marion Jones是当时在悉尼Olympic Games上获得5块金牌，全部是吃药得来的，后来也全部都Disqualified了。
Disqualified        2000 Sydney        100 m
Disqualified        2000 Sydney        200 m
Disqualified        2000 Sydney        4x400 m relay
Disqualified        2000 Sydney        4x100 m relay
Disqualified        2000 Sydney

hughway

小李飞刀 发表于 2016-8-8 22:05
Kylie Palmer
FINA RELEASES STATEMENT ON AUSTRALIAN KYLIE PALMER’S POSITIVE DOPING TEST; EXPEDITED H ...

In April 2015, Palmer was notified that she had failed a doping test at the 2013 World Aquatics Championships in Barcelona, forcing Swimming Australia to remove her from the Australian swim team for the 2015 World Aquatics Championships in Kazan.

http://www.swimvortex.com/kylie- ... e-just-heard-about/

hughway

狗头君 发表于 2016-8-8 21:27
有没有本届奥运选手是有禁赛记录的，这才是关键。。。

至少有 Tyson Gay， 2012年的牌都被取消了，因为On July 14, 2013,  it was announced that Gay had tested positive for a banned substance in May 2013.

He has since received a one-year ban for doping.

sxy

澳洲的索普就不干净，有啥好得瑟的。体育就应该取消对药的禁止，都是成年人，自己决定用不用药。大家看结果就好了，浪费那么多钱和精力去禁药，最后还不都是个个药罐子。

狗头君

hughway 发表于 2016-8-8 22:28
至少有 Tyson Gay， 2012年的牌都被取消了，因为On July 14, 2013,  it was announced that Gay had test ...

这是美国人。

狗头君

hughway 发表于 2016-8-8 22:12
In April 2015, Palmer was notified that she had failed a doping test at the 2013 World Aquatics Ch ...

她这次没出赛啊，你也不好说什么。

小李飞刀

Kylie Palmer
FINA RELEASES STATEMENT ON AUSTRALIAN KYLIE PALMER’S POSITIVE DOPING TEST; EXPEDITED HEARING UNLIKELY 18 June 2015

RR

区别就是澳洲美国的系统是公开透明的，服禁药者都是个人行为，兴奋剂被抓后都是公开透明的处理，国家也不包庇偏袒，当事人名誉也会受损也会接受来自队友或者其他人的鄙视。

而俄罗斯是国家组织服禁药，这是最恶劣的；

中国虽然不是国家组织，但也是有些省市暗中睁一只眼闭一只眼的行为，而且国家的反兴奋剂系统并不透明，国家会掩盖一些上报一些，无关紧要的运动员会上报给国际反兴奋剂组织，有用的或者顶级运动员会有另外各种处理方式（比如瞒报，延迟上报，先自己处理了再报），所以数量上要比欧美少很多，也是很多中国清白运动员也遭人怀疑的原因（反兴奋剂系统没有信用）。不过中国省市之间竞争严重，今年上半年北京反兴奋剂实验室就被内部举报，国际反兴奋剂机构接到线报立马来突袭抽查，就发现几例没报的，有的甚至是去年就被查出来的。所以北京反兴奋剂实验室被吊销执照4个月。

有污点的人被人叫drug cheat我觉得你也没什么好说的，澳洲电台主持还叫美国百米短跑名将加特林为2 time drug cheat呢。孙杨这种曾经被查出来还没按规则处理的被叫drug cheat我觉得还真没话说，毕竟有污点。就算Kylie Palmer禁赛完如果出来比赛她被人叫drug cheat她也没话说，澳洲泳协也不会帮她说话。

不同的就是中国运动员有污点就会被联想到整个国家，所以造成中国人这次集体玻璃心。好像说孙杨就在污蔑整个中国队似的，这样的局面要感谢国家一贯的遮掩不透面的兴奋剂处理方式。

sarahlin

RR 发表于 2016-8-16 00:23
区别就是澳洲美国的系统是公开透明的，服禁药者都是个人行为，兴奋剂被抓后都是公开透明的处理，国家也不包 ...

舉國體制是雙刃劍，成績好的時候可以振奮全國民心，讓大家亢奮；一旦成績不好或者像這種興奮劑醜聞，一定也是國家來負責，很難怪罪到某個運動員，因為他們都是完全聽從國家體委--國家隊的指揮，個人意志幾乎沒有。

社會主義國家的國家行為用藥很普遍，包括前蘇聯、東德還有羅馬尼亞等，為了所謂的國家榮譽而研發各種藥再強迫運動員服用；西方國家基本上還是個人還有團隊自己為了各種利益和榮譽嗑藥，個人行為居多。