十年前，红酒的价钱是这样的....

Gelen

随便找随便看，发现2003年几个老酒鬼在鬼佬论坛上聊酒，那时候的价格是这样的.

一个酒鬼问wynns和奔富几款酒的对比，可以发现，奔富独霸江湖的情势在当时还未开始

这个酒鬼说

I've been drinking wine for a few years and am just starting out on a cellar of my own so I can age maybe 5-6 dozen bottles.

In the experience of forum users would you say that Wynns wines outperformed the Penfolds wines at their price points?

ie: Wynns Shiraz @ $14 vs Bin 128 @ $20
Wynns Cab Sauv @ $25 vs Bin 407 @ $24
John Riddoch @ $59 vs Bin 707 @ $100
Michael Shiraz @ $59 vs St Henri/Magill/RWT @ $60/$100

当时的黑牌居然比407贵，今天黑牌依然是25，可是407早已今非昔比

Gelen

另外一个酒鬼回帖说

28>128>Wynns Shiraz
Wynns BL>407
389 better than any of them
Riddoch>707
StHenri and RWT>Michael

On a regular basis, I'd buy 389 and Black Label as the pick of the "cheapies" (not that they're cheap any more!).

I prefer Riddoch as it's pure Coonawarra and in French oak, vs 707 which is multi regional in American oak. Riddoch on special for $50 is great value.

Don't care much for any of the shirazes - they're all overpriced compared to other stuff that's available, but if I had to choose one, Henri from a good year like 98 is probably the pick, but make sure you get it on special (Don't pay over $45 for it!).

Finally, why don't you buy Majella Cab Sauv and Shiraz instead of any of the commercial Wynns/Pennies stuff? Majella used to put their fruit into Riddoch and Michael ,their wines are sublime, and at only $30 are better than any of the "cheapies" you mention, and probably IMHO getting up there with Riddoch, 707 etc.

我了个去，bin 389 居然是cheapies 之一

牵黄擎苍

407涨的够厉害的，不过确实比28好

ermaodim

红酒若能打开代购之路，penfolds 我等就消费不起了。

ermaodim

Gelen 发表于 2016-1-15 15:20
另外一个酒鬼回帖说

28>128>Wynns Shiraz

新出的那些2,28,150等等，可好？

Gelen

ermaodim 发表于 2016-1-15 16:03
新出的那些2,28,150等等，可好？

28我觉得一直都还可以，就是很难在25刀以下买到了。

bin 2一般，红色礼盒吸引不少买家。

bin 150很好，60刀太烫手

craigie

ermaodim 发表于 2016-1-15 16:02
红酒若能打开代购之路，penfolds 我等就消费不起了。

澳洲红酒早就在中国直接卖了，哪还需要代购啊。penfolds 现在这么贵就是受此影响。

ermaodim

Gelen 发表于 2016-1-15 16:04
28我觉得一直都还可以，就是很难在25刀以下买到了。

bin 2一般，红色礼盒吸引不少买家。

这么看，我觉得目前性价比最好的就是Fisell了。那个haliday 推荐的wine of year 的winestar卖18刀的不知道怎么样啊？

ermaodim

craigie 发表于 2016-1-15 21:20
澳洲红酒早就在中国直接卖了，哪还需要代购啊。penfolds 现在这么贵就是受此影响。 ...

这还和消费习惯有关吧。

obz

thanks

Saidlu

作为酒鬼一周消耗2到3瓶只能说15块以上喝不起
10到15块比国内好太多，澳洲红酒基础高。特别南澳那些名不见经传小酒庄，各具特色。每次去都要搞十几箱回来。奔富只有请客才喝。40以下的已经喝不出特色了。可能刚来那会只喝奔富，厌倦了

report

10年前$20和现在$20不一样

ItsThere

Wynns黑牌经过十年价格纹丝不动的原因是什么？
我实在喝不惯，两箱黑牌送人一箱了，价格低又黑黢黢的送人也不好出手。
还是Fitsell喜性又好喝。