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澳大利亚人的正面评价好像也不多啊 [复制链接]

发表于 2008-8-10 18:40 |显示全部楼层
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理会这么多多累啊,由他去吧

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昨天听 NOVA,以及今天上午CHANNEL 7 对昨天男子自行车公路赛的采访中

两个被采访者很友好。

NOVA 两个主持问 在北京的TOM,天气是不是 SMOGGY,TOM说今天是比赛第一天,选手更关注的比赛本身;NOVA 两个主持 则说:YOU ARE DEFENDING THIS COUNTRY,WE FEEL YOU ARE CHINESE。而 TOM 则是一笑而之。

7台对自行车公路赛选手的一家属采访时,诱导性地说天气是不是很SMOGGY,没太注意那个美女是不是最后获胜的西班牙选手的家属,反正美女明确说:不是SMOGGY,这是涅度太高。

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中国作为一个大国其实没必要那么在乎别人的看法,你看美国,打个仗,全世界一切反对,照样还打,大国就要有大国的度量,容得别人议论。

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发表于 2008-8-10 22:53 |显示全部楼层
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我同事看了自行车公路赛,对我说北京好美,这么绿.很得意一下.

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昨天早上看7台节目,重播开幕式里的一些精彩镜头,7台那个女主持sonia愣是能在那几千个穿着带灯衣服的表演者中找出一个衣服没发光的,真是太佩服她的眼力了。无聊。
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你是不了解澳洲人,这帮土人天天嘴上蔑视一切,但军事上靠美国,经济上靠中国,文化上靠英国,所谓的无所谓,啥都觉得不怎么样的态度,其实是不得已的...自己太逊了而已

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楼上的说得好,澳洲就这么回事,不好好地发展自己,妒嫉中国,以后矿产卖完后,看怎么办!

澳洲,好好捧着中国吧,以后会靠中国来保护她的。

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就象这的杂志上,登的中国人照片,那叫偏远(地区)啊。

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Comment from non- Chinese:
to proud chinese, even i am not a chinese, i agree with you. it is wasting your time to debate with those in this blog whose knowlegde of china is actually brain wash by the media. to them, the smile of your people is created by the communist and your comment was nationalism educated by your govt. however, they never understand that their understanding of china is mainly come from smh, cnn, bbc, and some old books like animal farm. a lot of them still live in the "yday glory" of the colonial period, so how can they accept the change of the world power? forget (and forgive) them, just do what your president (chairman) shown to those jokers (they treat your country without any respect but you guys still treat them well). forget about those comments of chinese nationalism as they are just copying from western media without thinking. you young generation of china just try hard to build your country, your system, your economy and your human right. they don't have the right and knowledge to tell you what to do. you are improving in all area including human right in the last decades and the world is watching. you are on the right track that nobody can deny. i just hope that people in my country can have the same attitude so that we can compete (not critize) with each others in different aspects like science, technology, social system and so on, just like what our athletes are doing in your country right now - this is olympic spirit someone is hard to understand.

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发表于 2008-8-11 12:27 |显示全部楼层
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Next Super Power还用在乎这点小事
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他们越到了吹毛求疵的地步,越表明我们更接近完美了!!

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今天早上来公司没有听人评论开幕式还有些遗憾。不过想到7频道两个解说员看到最后点火仪式然后放焰火什么一路都没说话,最后结束的时候才想起说what a night. unforgetable。另外一个人更是看傻了,都没注意听他说话,说明我们办得真是不错。我觉得开幕式圆满结束的时候我都长长舒口气,好紧张,生怕出什么错。不过等到真正闭幕式应该才叫圆满了。中国能办一次奥运会真得很不容易,特别是今年这么多国内国际的压力,换了哪个国家也不一定能像中国能挺过来
这个世界任何事情都是掩眼法,你看到的未必真实,真实的你未必幸运看得到。

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何必理会他们说什么呢,我们做好我们的就行。
小菲拿金牌,现场放了一半美国国歌就没有下文了,布什还座在现场呢,人家也没什么义愤填膺的,一笑置之。
沥沥花朝雨  纤纤江南叶

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原帖由 Fuxingtop 于 2008-8-10 18:40 发表
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看了你给的连接,把文章看后又看了评论,其实我们都不需要说什么,那些留言的人已经把我们要说的话都说了,好几个留言都让我眼眶湿润,剩下的就是无比的PROUD我们的祖国。
、:)

退役斑竹 2007 年度奖章获得者 2008年度奖章获得者

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前天的澳洲第一大报《悉尼晨锋报》社论,评价还是比较中肯的,我全文翻译如下:




中国的世纪开幕式




北京上空的烟雾依然沉重,尽管中国政府竭尽所能却收效不大,但这些烟尘恰恰是中国经济高速发展的后遗症。在被西方资本主义国家远远抛在后面近两个世纪之后,中国如今正以惊人的速度迈向未来,中国人当然不想减慢自己前进的步伐,澳洲也不愿意看到中国经济放缓,整个世界也不应该如此。

北京奥运会或许正是中国在二十一世纪开始走向辉煌的一个标志。各国政要蜂拥而至,数量远超以往任何一届奥运会就已彰显出他们意识到一个新纪元即将降临。据推测,中国将在二十年内超越美国成为全球最大经济体,在可预见的本世纪内中国也将成为世界超级大国,中国的崛起对世界和地区安全都将产生重要影响。一个由中国引领的世界看起来将和我们一直所习惯的相当不同。

两个世纪以来,西方列强主导世界,制定民主理念让其它国家亦步亦趋。这次中国并没有这种模式,相反,无论在国内国内外,无论是其对人权的压制,对外来投资者缺乏透明,还是对于法治的漠视,中国政府都备受非议。

美国总统布什周二就重申了西方的看法,希望中国沿着民主的路线进行改革。他说,“我们并非将西方价值观强加于人,但希望中国人民能表达自己的看法。”应当公平地指出,美国独立机构PEW一项调查显示,目前中国人民对其政府所指引的方向非常满意。

相比之下,澳洲总理陆克文比布什要现实和适度得多了。他说,“我们不可能让几个世纪以来的问题都在几天之内获得解决。”

香港、澳门沦为殖民地以及日本侵华的历史耻辱刚被抹去不久,当前中国民族主义思潮有所泛起;台湾问题同样悬而未决,中国公众的态度不会在一夕之间改变。

中国日益强大意味着西方围堵政策的终结。中国既不能被边缘化,或者被控制,或者被忽略,那么它就必须被世界所接纳。就从这一点而言,中国热情拥抱奥运是一个良好的开端,西方应放眼长远的未来。






The opening ceremony for China's coming century
   

August 09, 2008  Editorial  from Sydney Morning Herald  

THE smog hanging over Beijing as the Olympic Games open has bemused athletes and onlookers, particularly those from Australia, who find anything other than clear blue skies unsettling. The thick haze comes from many sources, from cooking fires to cars and coal-fired power stations. The Chinese authorities have done what they can to mitigate it but so far, at least, it has proved unstoppable. Left behind by the capitalist West for two centuries, China has now caught up. Smog is the exhaust as China's economy accelerates, with astonishing speed, into the future. The Chinese certainly do not want to slow down. Nor does Australia want it to. Nor should the world.

The Olympic Games in Beijing may well mark the start of China's global ascendancy in the 21st century. The array of national leaders who have made their way to the Olympic city - many more than have attended previous games - shows they sense a new era is dawning. Within two decades, according to some projections, China's economy will pass the United States' to be the largest on the planet. With money comes power, and this century may also see China become the leading superpower. However things turn out, the rise of China will continue to have consequences for world and regional security. A world in which China is the leading player will look rather different from the one we are accustomed to.

For two centuries, the world has been led by Western countries which (though they have not always lived up to it) have set a democratic ideal for other countries to follow. China offers no such model. It has plenty of critics - inside and outside the country. Its repression of human rights, the lack of transparency for foreign investors, and its patchy respect for the rule of law all play badly in countries where democratic freedoms and a capitalist economy are the norm. The US President, George Bush, in his speech in Bangkok on Thursday, reiterated the Western case, in broad terms, for China to reform itself along democratic lines. "We press for openness and justice, not to impose our beliefs, but to allow the Chinese people to express theirs." (Chinese citizens, it is fair to point out, are very happy with their Government's direction just now, according to a Pew Centre survey.) Australia's Kevin Rudd, before he left for Beijing, promised similarly to raise human rights in any talks with China's leaders. But as for expecting rapid change, "Let's not overstate it. You're not going to turn the events of centuries around in the matter of a few days." Mr Rudd is both more modest and more realistic than the US President. China's shrill and defensive response to pro-Tibet demonstrations during the Olympic torch relay showed it to be extremely sensitive to criticism, and prone to react badly. China, moreover, brings a long, nationalistic view of its own history to its dealings with the West. The shame of the colonisation of Hong Kong and Macau by Western powers, and the invasion by Japan has only recently been expunged.

The status of Taiwan is still up in the air, and an irritant to China's relations with the rest of the world. Chinese public opinion is carefully managed to nurture this view of things. Those attitudes will not change soon.

China's growing strength means the end of Western attempts at containment. Nor can it be otherwise sidelined or controlled or ignored. It must be accepted. With that in mind, its enthusiastic embrace of the Olympics is an excellent portent. Though both Beijing and its critics have seized on the Games as an opportunity for propaganda, prudent observers should see through the smog of assertion and counter-assertion, and take the longer view.

China will not be transformed by nagging from outside, however well-intended - any more than its critics will be convinced by China's propaganda. It is the forces of capitalist development unleashed by Deng Xiaoping decades ago that will over time - perhaps a long time, perhaps with disappointments and defeats along the way - align it closer with the pluralist, open values of Western democracy, the values which produced the modern Olympic Games as an arena for friendly competition between nations. They will do so because it is that way that peace and prosperity lie.

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发表于 2008-8-11 15:47 |显示全部楼层
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so proud of our country!!

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我们就是这样,不改,憋死你们这些管闲事的!

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澳洲人跟英国人差不多,感觉中国应该还是八国联军时候的样子吧?中国强大了他们心里当然不是滋味了,表面上还要一幅不以为然的样子。美国人还是性格直接得多。
有问题我们可以一点一点的改,中国坚持和平,发展经济,就是最好的富国之路,到时候谁也不敢小瞧了我们。
我们是树大招风,就像前面TX说的,他们爱说啥说啥,听拉拉鼓叫唤还不种地了?

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这和我们看着韩国强大起来的感觉是一样的

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这些大农村的农民,整天在这讲那个国家不行这个国家不好,也不想想自己以前还是殖民地了那么久,不过我觉得大多澳洲人还是比较客观的,至少我学校faculty的一个老师就说:human right is a issue, but it takes times, in australia, we have human right now, but we did not have in the past... 而且也有几个本地朋友说,其实他们根本不介意哪里怎么样,澳洲人都是很自私的,因为他们有太多时间,所以整天批评来批评去的,管他的,他们哪里知道什么政治,文化,都是闲的
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今天morning tea 时好几个同事问我是不是住在北京,说自行车比赛沿途风景很美丽。
午饭时,一个斯里兰卡老头过来说什么有什么西方选手被谋杀,现在重伤,新闻里都报道了,还有人说只要有人说到free Tibet,就会有中国人过来对他们很不友好地大叫get out of china,旁边越南同事也帮腔说,是吗,那太不好了。还说中国政府强制地方一些工厂关闭就是为了不让人家说空气污染的事情。我口拙,不知道该怎样回答才显得有风度又维护了祖国的尊严,只好岔开话题。如果大家遇到这种情形一般是怎么回答的呢?

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好像我们并没有特别不以为然吧?好多哈韩族啊。。。

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