有全职妈妈吗?进来聊聊.

susan

西边雨  在 2006-4-13 03:27 PM 发表:

作为男人偶不同意无产的说法，照这么说childcare能帮你把孩子养大，还能帮你把家里弄得舒舒服服咯。
顺便还能帮你花花钱哈，付账单之类的

对呀，还能给你做饭，陪你睡觉，陪你说话，帮你洗衣服，伺候LG的爹妈，全天服务，多廉价的劳动力啊。

astina

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 03:34 PM 发表:

how can you say, housewife's work is much more valuable than the childcare service. .

无产同学,你在家中买菜做饭洗碗,任劳任怨,不亦乐乎.如果你有孩子的话,几乎也可以参加竞争,代表墨尔本PK布老虎了.可是,骨子里的想法却还是男人挣钱不易,女人在家也就是省CHILD CARE的钱.

这是不是可以算做一种悲哀?女性的悲哀?

西边雨

astina  在 2006-4-13 03:38 PM 发表:

无产同学,你在家中买菜做饭洗碗,任劳任怨,不亦乐乎.如果你有孩子的话,几乎也可以参加竞争,代表墨尔本PK布老虎了.可是,骨子里的想法却还是男人挣钱不易,女人在家也就是省CHILD CARE的钱.

这是不是可以算做一种悲 ...

看来淘淘比较厉害，把无产的想法镇压了！哈哈

无产阶级

No, I appreciate the woman like you. can work and do house work at same time. I just want to say, don't enlarge the value of housewife that much. I would like to do a survey here. how many housewives here want their husbands stay at home and look after the kids instead of work. and these housewifes won't complain.

西边雨

晕，等你有了小孩你就理解了~~
BTW:丈夫呆在家里能喂奶么？

无产阶级

西边雨  在 2006-4-13 03:46 PM 发表:

晕，等你有了小孩你就理解了~~
BTW:丈夫呆在家里能喂奶么？

i know, it is different job.

Rachel-snow

maribel  在 2006-4-13 03:30 PM 发表:

kiki, you are dead meat, pangzi

托儿所照顾的孩子可不止一个，比不上在家的全职妈妈对自己小孩的那份细心和爱护的

偶觉得，外面挣面包的和家里做贤内助持家的一样值得尊敬，缺了哪一方，这家庭生活都不会 ...

说的好～！

maribel

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 15:43 发表:

No, I appreciate the woman like you. can work and do house work at same time. I just want to say, don't enlarge the value of housewife that much. I would like to do a survey here. how many housewiv ...

The prob is, even though there are housewives who'd like to be the breadwinner of the family, do their husbands feel like staying at home looking after the bb and doing all the housechores? hohoho

astina

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 03:43 PM 发表:

No, I appreciate the woman like you. can work and do house work at same time. I just want to say, don't enlarge the value of housewife that much. I would like to do a survey here. how many housewiv ...

有没有小孩对家务劳动的要求有着本质的区别,在这点上你我都没有发言权

无产阶级

maribel  在 2006-4-13 03:49 PM 发表:

The prob is, even though there are housewives who'd like to be the breadwinner of the family, do their husbands feel like staying at home looking after the bb and doing all the housechores? hohoho

Depends on if the wife will complain or not. I guess most of the housewives would prefer their husbands work instead of stay at home. and most of the housewives will prefer the salary of their husbands are higher than theirs.

maribel

maribel  在 2006-4-13 15:49 发表:

The prob is, even though there are housewives who'd like to be the breadwinner of the family, do their husbands feel like staying at home looking after the bb and doing all the housechores? hohoho

AND THE OTHER THING IS, MOST CHINESE MEN WOULD FEEL THAT BEING A STAY-AT-HOME-DAD WAS A DISGRACE AND THEY WOULD FEEL INFERIOR TO THEIR BETTER HALF.  THAT'S WHY SOME CHINESE WOMEN HAVE PLAYED THE STEREOTYPED ROLE FOR DECADES AS OUR SOCIETY HAS DIFFERENT BENCHMARKS FOR MEN AND WOMEN SINCE LONG LONG LONG TIME AGO.

西边雨

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 03:53 PM 发表:

Depends on if the wife will complain or not. I guess most of the housewives would prefer their husbands work instead of stay at home. and most of the housewives will prefer the salary of their husb ...

这个是2回事，能说明什么？

只能证明因为wife要照顾孩子，照顾家庭，那么她付出的代价是不能参加工作。
也就是说她做housewife的价值=一份她能得到工作的价值，而不是childcare的费用。

恢恢

The topic becomes more and more professional and far away from the original,haha

月亮

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 15:53 发表:

Depends on if the wife will complain or not. I guess most of the housewives would prefer their husbands work instead of stay at home. and most of the housewives will prefer the salary of their husb ...

这和男的有没有工作没关系阿。
我想在这里的妈妈和准妈妈谁也没有要推卸带孩子的工作，但是，作为老公要理解带孩子，作家务也是一项很累很艰巨的工作，并不象他们想的那样只是在家无所事事。

maribel

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 15:53 发表:

Depends on if the wife will complain or not. I guess most of the housewives would prefer their husbands work instead of stay at home. and most of the housewives will prefer the salary of their husb ...

YES, IT'S A TYPICAL MATTER OF "FACE". ME THE SAME.

西边雨

以上是按照你的理论的推理：
husband回家照顾小孩 ---〉 不工作 则价值=薪水
wife同理

astina

恢恢  在 2006-4-13 03:59 PM 发表:

The topic becomes more and more professional and far away from the original,haha

都是无产的错!

garden_state

在家带一整天小孩的工作量起码抵得上我上一个礼拜班的!

不信的欢迎来偶家体验一下生活. ..呵呵.

maribel

这个话题可以进行正反方辩论了，挺有趣的。无产，你的立场已经摆明了，正方。嘎嘎

西边雨

garden_state  在 2006-4-13 04:02 PM 发表:

在家带一整天小孩的工作量起码抵得上我上一个礼拜班的!

不信的欢迎来偶家体验一下生活. ..呵呵.

所以说，没小孩的只是在哪儿想象如何如何。轮到他头上才会恍然大悟

无产阶级

maribel  在 2006-4-13 03:54 PM 发表:

AND THE OTHER THING IS, MOST CHINESE MEN WOULD FEEL THAT BEING A STAY-AT-HOME-DAD WAS A DISGRACE AND THEY WOULD FEEL INFERIOR TO THEIR BETTER HALF.  THAT'S WHY SOME CHINESE WOMEN HAVE PLAYED THE ST ...

You are right, so in this world, every woman, whatever her nationality is, wants to have a strong man who can look after her. If one day, all the women want to marry a stay at home man, the situation will change.

every woman will be proud of her husband do the following things:
1) earn a lot of money
2)have investment properties
3)save the money in her account
4)do a lot of housework
at least her day dream.

but I think many wives can support her husband and the family as well.

无产阶级

西边雨  在 2006-4-13 03:58 PM 发表:

这个是2回事，能说明什么？

只能证明因为wife要照顾孩子，照顾家庭，那么她付出的代价是不能参加工作。
也就是说她做housewife的价值=一份她能得到工作的价值，而不是childcare的费用。

Childcare earn a lot here, much higher than your salary. I just want to express no to enlarge the value of housewife that much. I am not saying housewife has no value.

水晶靴

在此招聘管家一名。

条件如下：
须在以下方面有良好的表现：是一个好伴侣，辅导员、财务经理、买手、教师、护士、厨师、营养师、设计师、司机、秘书、清洁工、社交家和娱乐从业员。

履历要求：
能充分胜任此职位的申请者，一定须有责任感和充沛活力；
有主动性，能独自处理事情，在没人监管下依然有良好工作表现；
能管理任何年龄的孩子；
亦能在长时间工作情况下及困境中发挥良好；
可随时在紧急及危机中应变；
有良好的沟通能力及对内对外人际交往能力；
身体健康，想象力丰富，敏感，善于营造温馨感觉。

工作时间：
２４小时，随时On call。

薪酬：
零。有津贴，但试队员入息而定。

其它Bonus：
无周末假期，无病假、产假或年假；无人寿保险或意外保险；无工伤赔偿及公积金。


谁愿意申请？

无产阶级

just stop, i don't want to argue anymore. in fact i am a very good husband at home. do more than half housework.

garden_state

小无同学是个好同学!

西边雨

childcard一个小孩一周大概在150左右（已扣除政府补贴）

kate

西边雨  在 2006-4-13 04:22 PM 发表:

childcard一个小孩一周大概在150左右（已扣除政府补贴）

这么便宜啊,听说一天就要六十左右的.

无产阶级

西边雨  在 2006-4-13 04:22 PM 发表:

childcard一个小孩一周大概在150左右（已扣除政府补贴）

normally a childcare will look after 5-6 kids at the same time. it will be $900 per week.
if you think look after 1 kid at home is much harder than looking after 6 kids. then you can say your wife is more valuable than $900 per week.

just joking.

西边雨

无产阶级  在 2006-4-13 04:25 PM 发表:

normally a childcare will look after 5-6 kids at the same time. it will be $900 per week.
if you think look after 1 kid at home is much harder than looking after 6 kids. then you can say your wif ...

你有必要去参观一下childcare是怎么照顾小孩的，很多事情他们是不做的
另外在childcare一个人只能看4个吧

月亮

偶现在非常同意susan说的那句狠话了