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[全澳] #儿童心理我来说#你的孩子聪明吗?关于智力发展 [复制链接]

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 07:52
一般来说。说话早,走路早的孩子都聪明

孩子生下来该是啥样就是啥样,甜菜也好蠢才也好,美也好丑也好, ...

看着这个帖子,我忽然很同情高智商的孩子啊。一旦被认定为gifted,压力多大啊。有时候不是件好事啊。我对孩子的期望很简单,每天开开心心就足够了。人生最难的成就就是每天都开心地生活。
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hilltop-bear 发表于 2016-4-16 09:34
看着这个帖子,我忽然很同情高智商的孩子啊。一旦被认定为gifted,压力多大啊。有时候不是件好事啊。我 ...

有什么压力呀?该干嘛干嘛呗。
moderate gifted也就百里挑一,不是多么超常,稍微好点的学校这样的孩子不少,都聚在一起,也不觉得有什么不同。这也是GT教育的一个出发点,既让孩子发挥最大潜力,也让他们象普通孩子一样社交和玩耍。
真正challenge的是Highlygifted 和exceptional gifted的孩子,因为他们数量太少,一个学校都不一定有一个,他们会很孤单,不容易找到志趣相投的朋友,老师也没有水平交他们,有些就干脆不上学,家校了

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hilltop-bear 发表于 2016-4-16 09:30
以前我们中学也有测试智商的,不过我爸爸不让我去测,他说怕我测低了会自卑,测高了会自傲。他叫我不要想 ...

绝大部分人都差不多,多几分少几分都差不多

不过学校分班的时候测一下会把学的快的孩子分到一起,这样分开教学,因材施教。不过中国家长不信这个,相信勤能补拙,补习也要上快班,跟不上就再补。

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 10:07
绝大部分人都差不多,多几分少几分都差不多

不过学校分班的时候测一下会把学的快的孩子分到一起,这样分 ...

太有同感了。

有些家长太相信勤能补拙,努力补习做题上快班,考上私校奖学金,结果一看,补习一停下,孩子又跟不上,又开始接着补习,再不行,就找老师一对一补。想想孩子好可伶,真是赶鸭子上架,多累啊。我们做家长的,要根据自己孩子的真实能力和兴趣,鼓励他们,不要让孩子精疲力尽地去赶超他人。家长们,把自己和孩子换位思考一下,自己不愿做的事,不要强制孩子去做。

让孩子像孩子一样快乐成长吧

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 09:59
有什么压力呀?该干嘛干嘛呗。
moderate gifted也就百里挑一,不是多么超常,稍微好点的学校这样的孩子不 ...

我这辈子都没遇过highly gifted 的人
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海之女 发表于 2016-4-16 12:25
太有同感了。

有些家长太相信勤能补拙,努力补习做题上快班,考上私校奖学金,结果一看,补习一停下,孩 ...

我个人相信80%原理。一群人里面,自己处于80%的位置既有上升空间也不会太有危机感,心理上比较舒服。做事情也是,如果需要开尽马达才能做到,会精疲力尽,开80%马力即可做到,自己不会太辛苦也不会变懒。
开心和不开心,我都喜欢写故事。欢迎到我的博客http://hilltopbear.com《山顶小熊的秘密花园》看我笔下五光十色的人生故事
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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 09:59
有什么压力呀?该干嘛干嘛呗。
moderate gifted也就百里挑一,不是多么超常,稍微好点的学校这样的孩子不 ...

如果就是gifted应该没什么压力,两孩子也是preschool/kindy学校就专门安排人测过。如果是exceptional gifted这种会有点担心,主要担心某一方面超常了,很有可能某一方面会特弱;搞不好父母要自己亲自来,天才/庸才一线间啊。。。
各方面均衡,包括长相,性格,身材,在稍微聪明一点,就是perfect了,对于我来说。

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hilltop-bear 发表于 2016-4-16 14:08
我这辈子都没遇过highly gifted 的人

这是因为你还不够gifted,站得不够高

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likejr 发表于 2016-4-16 17:38
这是因为你还不够gifted,站得不够高

  那是,从来就是普通人,也没想过要过什么不平凡的生活
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学习了

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请教lz,儿童智商会随年龄增长变化吗?
我儿子上学后成绩不好,基本上处于垫底位置,大约2年级的时候我带他去了医院儿童心理科做测试,结果是110,处于同龄前20%。他现在6年级了,这几年成绩有所进步,但只是中等而已。您觉得我们有必要再带他测测智商吗?
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likejr 发表于 2016-4-16 17:36
如果就是gifted应该没什么压力,两孩子也是preschool/kindy学校就专门安排人测过。如果是exceptional gif ...

就像我说的,父母和孩子是缘分,没的挑选,是啥样都要无条件接受

有一个highlygifted以上的孩子对父母是挑战,很麻烦,但也是joy。

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likejr 发表于 2016-4-16 17:38
这是因为你还不够gifted,站得不够高

去趟JR就看到了。

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 09:59
有什么压力呀?该干嘛干嘛呗。
moderate gifted也就百里挑一,不是多么超常,稍微好点的学校这样的孩子不 ...

智商测出来多少算gifted?多少算highly gifted,还有更高的...

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 20:09
去趟JR就看到了。

Jr能出多少天才啊?我认识好几个jr的小朋友,也没听他们说有什么天才的?我身边的朋友孩子们基本都上jr, bh,和我们以前上重点中学大学差不多而已啊
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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-15 22:35
我看过很多这样的资料,我家也有个gifte的孩子,怎么是我一拍脑袋。关于IQ的资料网上多得不得了,wiki总 ...

答非所问,驴唇不对马嘴,呵呵!看不懂别人说什么,不知道是智商问题!还是后天教育不好!
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SmithN 发表于 2016-4-16 05:18
确实有研究支持你的想法。可以谷歌 The growth mindset. 据说最初是斯坦福大学的学者提出的概念。
智商测 ...

谢谢解释啊,还是得和智商高并且有思考能力的人讨论问题!

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hilltop-bear 发表于 2016-4-16 20:24
Jr能出多少天才啊?我认识好几个jr的小朋友,也没听他们说有什么天才的?我身边的朋友孩子们基本都上jr,  ...

据说JR平均智商145

还有ATAR中间值为99,所以我比较相信JR学生应该是用功的gifted和HG以上组成,每个人心里天才标准不一样,最客观的是以百分比来表示。

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xiaomt 发表于 2016-4-16 21:30
答非所问,驴唇不对马嘴,呵呵!看不懂别人说什么,不知道是智商问题!还是后天教育不好! ...

你智商最高。

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-16 22:41
据说JR平均智商145

还有ATAR中间值为99,所以我比较相信JR学生应该是用功的gifted和HG以上组成,每个人 ...

我孩子还没读书,对澳洲这边学校情况了解很少。这个jr名气很大,但我知道大部分学生都有补习。虽说成绩是最好的量化指标,我还是觉得不能以成绩论英雄的。见过不少读书不好,在社会创出一番事业的人。是不是说明智商高低未必与成绩挂钩,智商高低和成就的关系未必成正比呢?
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LittleKing 发表于 2016-4-16 20:24
智商测出来多少算gifted?多少算highly gifted,还有更高的...

gifted top 2%
highly gifted 0.1%
Exceptional gifted 0.01%
Profoundly gifted 0.00001%,也就是百万分之一。

Five Levels of Giftedness

The information that follows about Levels of Giftedness is gathered from my own personal experience with families whose gifted children I tested. The families completed a questionnaire asking them when their child reached various milestones like reading unassisted, or talking in sentences. From the responses of these families, and the corresponding test data, I was able to see a pattern of gifted behaviors for the various Levels of Giftedness. From this same sort of experience and public score reports, estimates of numbers of each Level of Giftedness in different schools were also made.

Level One Gifted
How many Level One children are there in our schools? The average ability level of different school districts and the schools within them can vary significantly. This will always affect how many gifted children are expected in any school and within any classroom. Children whose abilities are very low (IQs below about 60, in most cases) or mentally delayed are not placed in most classrooms, which raises the average within the school compared to the full population within the school’s attendance area. A typical elementary school 28-student classroom that draws from a generally middle-class socioeconomic community has from 3 to 6 children in the Level One ability range. In public or private schools which draw from mostly a high socioeconomic population – and schools in districts where most of the parents are highly educated professionals – Level One children are average learners and constitute the majority of the students in such schools.

• Many recognized colors and could rote count before age two.
• Most knew and said many words before 18 months.
• Many liked puzzles before age two.
• Sat still and attended to TV by 18 to 30 months.
• Real counting, most letters and colors by age three.
• Complex speaking and extensive vocabulary by age three.
• Recognized simple signs, own written name, and most knew alphabet by age four.
• Most did simple addition and subtraction by age four.
• Most showed interest in learning to read before age five.
• All read simple signs and most read beginner books by age six.
• Most were independent on computer and started to keyboard by age six.
• Most fully grasped counting and basic number facts by age six.
• All were reading and were two to three years beyond grade level by age seven.
• All could read chapter books independently by age seven to seven and a half.
• Many showing impatience with repetition and slow pace at school by age seven or eight.

Children of Level One can easily go to college, can benefit from accelerated coursework, and are often, but not necessarily, good and cooperative students.

Level Two Gifted Summary
How many Level Two children are there in our schools? A typical elementary school that draws from a generally middle-class socioeconomic community with 100 children per grade level has at least four to six Level Two children at each grade level, one to two per class. A school with a large number of well-educated families may have more; a school with fewer well-educated parents may have fewer.

• Almost all the children understood adult directives and questions at 6 to 12 months.
• The majority independently looked at and turned pages of books by 11-15 months.
• About half the children said two-word phrases by 15 months.
• A number of children played with shape sorters by 15 months.
• Most knew many letters at 15-18 months.
• Most knew most colors by 15-20 months.
• Many liked puzzles by 12 to 15 months (8-10 piece puzzles).
• Most knew and called out names on signs and stores between 11 and 16 months.
• Several “read” numerous sight words at 16-24 months.
• Almost all were speaking in three-word and longer sentences by age two.
• Many recognized and picked out specific numbers by 12-22 months.
• About 25% knew the entire alphabet by 17-24 months.
• Most did one-to-one counting for small quantities by age 3.
• Most knew most letters and colors by age three.
• Most had extensive vocabularies and did complex speaking by age three.
• Many could print letters, numbers, words, and their names between 3 and 4 years.
• Several had high interest in facts, how things work, and science by 3½ to 4½.
• Most knew many sight words by age 4.
• Several read easy readers by age 4.
• Most were independent on computer by age 4½.
• Most fully grasped counting and basic number facts by age five.
• Many showed intuitive grasp of number concepts by age five.
• Most enjoyed having advanced level books and stories read to them by age five.
• Most read easy reader books before age five, nearly all by 5½.
• Most read for pleasure and information by six.
• All read two to five years beyond grade level by age 7.
• All read chapter books independently by age 7-7½.
• Many showed impatience with repetition and slow pace at school by age 6-7.

Level Two children have the ability to do accelerated coursework almost from the time they enter school, take advanced placement courses and hold leadership positions, are capable of getting into competitive colleges and universities, and often go on to some form of graduate school. Although many Level Two children are excellent students, a number of them may resist typical school expectations and achieve less than they are capable of achieving due to the discrepancy between their learning ability and that of the majority of their same-age classmates.  They may prefer to “fit in,” or they may conclude that the work is simply wrong for them and refuse to comply with what they see as “stupid” expectations.

Level Three Gifted Summary
How many Level Three children are there in our schools? A typical elementary school in a middle class neighborhood with 100 children per grade level probably has one or two of these children at each grade level.

• Most were alert at birth or soon thereafter.
• Most had books as a favorite interest before age one.
• Almost all understood what someone was talking about by 6 months.
• Most independently looked at and turned pages of books before 10 months.
• Most made their families understand what they wanted before 12 months.
• Most had large vocabularies, receptive and expressive, by 16 months.
• A number of children played with shape sorters by 11 months.
• Many recognized some colors, shapes, numbers and letters before 12 months.
• Many recognized and picked out specific numbers and letters by 12-15 months.
• Most knew many colors by 15-18 months.
• Many liked puzzles by 15 to 24 months (35+ piece puzzles).
• Most “read” names on signs and stores from between 20 months and 3¾ years.
• Many children “read” numerous sight words between 15 and 20 months.
• Many memorized the books that were read to them before they were two years old.
• Many showed interest in letter sounds and sounding out short words by age 2½.
• Most were speaking in complex sentences, more than four words, by 15 to 24 months.
• Many could rote count to 10, many higher, by 15 to 24 months.
• Almost all knew the entire alphabet by 17-24 months.
• Most could print letters, numbers, words, and their names between 2¾ and 3½ years.
• Many had high interest in factual information, how things work, science, by 3 to 4.
• Most knew many sight words by age 3-3½.
• Half could read very simple books – perhaps memorized – by age 3-3½.
• Most grasp skip counting, backwards, basic addition and subtraction, by 3 to 4 years.
• Many keyboarding – typing – by 3 to 4½ years.
• Most could read easy readers by age 4 to 5 years.
• Many questioned the reality of Santa Claus and Tooth Fairy by 3 to 5 years.
• Most read children’s-level chapter books by 4¼ to 5½ years.
• Many understood some multiplication, division and some fractions to 5½.
• Most read for pleasure and information by six.
• All were reading two to five years beyond grade level by age six.
• All could read youth and young adult chapter books independently by age 7-7½.

Level Three children are capable of achieving in any career field. Opportunity and their own inner drive will determine which individuals eventually achieve at the highest levels.

Level Four Gifted Summary
How many Level Four children are there in our schools? Keeping in mind that the parents of many Level Four children turn to home schooling to solve some of the school behavior issues, schools where most of the parents are highly educated professionals – can expect that about 2% of their students may be at Level Four or higher. This means that there might be 2 to 3 per grade level in a school with 80 to 100 children per grade level. A large high school in a professional community will generally have 6 to 12 students at this intellectual level from a grade level class size of about 400 students. A middle class population elementary school with 100 children per grade level will have one or two of these children for every two grade levels, which means the school will probably not have a student this intelligent every year. By the time the students from such a district are all drawn together for high school, the honors and advanced classes can expect 1 to 3 students at Level Four.

• Almost all paid attention within months of birth while someone to read to them.
• Books were a favorite interest before three or four months.
• Almost all understood parental directives by 6 months.
• Most knew and said some words by 5½ to 9 months.
• Many had large vocabularies, receptive and expressive, by 14 months.
• Many recognized and picked out specific numbers and letters by 12-15 months.
• Most knew many colors by 15-18 months.
• Many liked puzzles by 15 to 36 months (35+ piece puzzles).
• Many “read” numerous sight words between 15 and 20 months.
• Almost all knew the entire alphabet by 15-22 months.
• Most “read” names on signs and stores from between 20 months and 3¾ years.
• Many memorized the books that were read to them before they were 2 years old.
• Many showed interest in letter sounds and sounding out short words by age 2½.
• Most were speaking in complex sentences, more than four words, by 15 to 24 months.
• Many could rote count to 10, many higher, by 13 to 20 months.
• Most printed letters, numbers, words, and their names between 2¾ and 3½ years.
• Many had high interest in factual information, how things work, science, by 3 to 4.
• Most knew many sight words by age 3-3½.
• Most grasp skip counting, backwards, addition, subtraction, more and less, by 3 to 4 years.
• Most were independent on computer by age 3 to 4½ years, most keyboarding by five.
• Most read easy readers by age 3½ to 4½ years.
• Many question the reality of Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy by 3 to 4 years.
• Many understand some multiplication, division and some fractions by 5.
• Most read for pleasure and information by five.
• All read two to five years beyond grade level by age six.
• All read youth and adult chapter books independently by age 6-6½.

Most Level Four children were capable of finishing all academic coursework through 8th grade before they reach 3rd or 4th grade, but few of them had the opportunity; this does not include handwriting, organizational skills, or thesis writing, which takes time and maturity to master no matter how gifted the child. Also, girls are—on average—one to one-and-a-half years ahead of boys in verbal skills and writing until about the middle of elementary school due to differences in brain development between the sexes. If the environment, inner drive, and general opportunities are right for them, Level Four children are capable of performing at the highest levels in their areas and fields of interest.

Level Five Gifted Summary
How many Level Five children are there in our schools? The sample demonstrates that few Level Five children follow a traditional educational path, and various options – such as intermittent home schooling – mean that few Level Five children remain in the regular schools throughout their youth. Children in Level Five are not one in a million occurrences but are more common, perhaps as many as one in 25,000 to 250,000. Their occurrence and presence is somewhat more serendipitous than previous Levels. However, it is likely that none of these children has ever had someone else in their classroom as intellectually able as they.

• All were alert at birth or soon thereafter.
• Books were a favorite interest of most before three or four months.
• All appeared to understand parental directives between birth and four months.
• The majority independently looked at and turned pages of books before 6 months.
• Most knew and said some words by 5½ to 9 months.
• All had large receptive vocabularies by 8-9 months.
• Half spoke well before age one.
• All spoke at near-adult level complexity by age two.
• Most played with shape sorters before 11 months.
• Many recognized and picked out specific numbers and letters by 10 -14 months.
• All knew colors, numbers, the alphabet and shapes by about 15 months.
• Most were good at puzzles before 12 months, 35+ piece puzzles by 15 months.
• All showed musical aptitude before 18 months.
• All “read” words on signs and simple books and labels before two years.
• Many read numerous sight words by 15 months.
• All memorized books read to them before 20 months.
• All had favorite TV shows or videos before 6-8 months.
• Many could rote count to 10, many higher, by 13 to 20 months.
• Most could print letters, numbers, words, and their names between 16 and 24 months.
• High interest in factual information, how things work, science, by two years.
• Most read simple books, “board” books, by age 18-24 months.
• Most grasp skip counting, backwards, addition, subtraction, more or less, by two years.
• All were independent on computer by age two years, all keyboarding before three.
• All read children’s chapter books by age 3½ to 4½ years.
• All showed interest in pure facts, almanacs, dictionaries, etc. by age 3½.
• All question the reality of Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy by 3 or 4 years.
• All read any level fiction and nonfiction by 4¼ to 5 years.
• All understand abstract math concepts and basic math functions before age four.
• All played adult level games – ages 12 and up – by the time they were 3½ to 4.
• All read six or more years beyond grade level by age six.

The advantages to looking at a child’s Level of Giftedness are that those responsible for their care and education can know better what each child needs in order to thrive.  Cronbach and Snow first named their own similar theory “Aptitude-Treatment-Interaction,” or ATI.  When you know what a child is like, how she learns and how she responds to various stimuli, then you can devise the appropriate instructional and parenting approaches in order to fully develop her abilities.  When we ignore individual differences, we risk the actual mistreatment of individual needs.


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hilltop-bear 发表于 2016-4-16 22:53
我孩子还没读书,对澳洲这边学校情况了解很少。这个jr名气很大,但我知道大部分学生都有补习。虽说成绩是 ...

我在这里一直都在强调,智商只不过是人的一个属性,高智商不代表成功和幸福(其实很多低智商的根本没什么烦恼),是有人在这里否定人在这方面的差别,那随他。

高智商不代表成绩好,成绩好也不代表成功,成功也不代表幸福。我不愿意争论成功幸福,因为每个人的价值观不一样,期望值就不一样,最主要是你自己认为什么最重要,要为之去追求达到就知足了

我只说客观上,热门专业,名牌大学,还有大公司是要看成绩的录取的,就是这么回事。

至于每个人看不看重成绩,那就是个人选择了。

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-15 22:35
我看过很多这样的资料,我家也有个gifte的孩子,怎么是我一拍脑袋。关于IQ的资料网上多得不得了,wiki总 ...

对于我这样外行,与看过很多资料的大姐讨论问题,我也觉得至少应该先看看wiki才对。以下引用维基百科原文:

智商

智力商数(德语:Intelligenz Quotient),简称智商(德语:IQ),是用标准测试测量人在其年龄段的认知能力(“智力”)的得分。人的智商呈正态分布,,目前主流的智力测验(包含最常被使用的“魏氏智力测验”),都采用“离差智商”(deviant IQ scores)的定义。亦即,个体的IQ分数,会和个体所属的常模(例如:和相同年龄、国家的人们)相比较。这个常模的IQ分数的平均值为100分,标准差为15分。即68.2%的人的智商在85-115之间,即95.4%的人的智商在70-130之间, 即99.6%的人的智商在55-145之间。

最新的研究表明,智商有可能不单是与遗传因素有关,例如智商降低或和精神分裂症风险基因直接相关,还与生活环境有关。即智商的高低可能与遗传因素和生活环境有关,例如纯母乳喂养六个月以上的婴儿智商较配方奶喂养的婴儿高约7点[3],饮食缺乏碘则会造成儿童智商下降约12点,许多第三世界国家在消除缺碘和缺微量元素的环境后,民众智商会急剧增加。

全文链接https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%BA%E5%95%86

咦,wiki咋和我对”智商100%先天“的质疑有同样的观点呢?!难不成我看的是盗版wiki?!

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关于儿童智商测试,其实与孩子的身心发育成熟状况也有很大的关系。成熟早的孩子智商测试自然会比其他同龄孩子高。此外,家庭的文化教育背景对测试结果也有很大的影响。不少华人家庭对孩子从小开始进行母语(汉语)教育。小学入学后才发现孩子的英文表达和思维能力不足。澳洲出生的孩子也只能上ESL,被父母认为是gifted的孩子在学校却被分到慢班。

对于智商测试的结果家长也不必太在意。孩子是否gifted家长心里最清楚。

自家的一个孩子小时候也做过智商测试。当时是因为要提早入学,纽省教育厅派人对孩子做智商测试。测试时允许家长在场。测试的问题不算太难。正常入学的小孩子应该都能得100。不过,孩子的回答确实让我大吃一惊。孩子知道的东西远比家长所认为的多,多得多。很多东西家里从未教过,家中从来也没有听她说过,也不知道她从哪学来。测试中,孩子与测试老师对答如流,没有任何怯场。测试的结果是14x。按规定,135或以上才允许提早入学。

对此结果,家里并没有感到意外。我们也知道孩子没有什么特别聪明过人之处。测试结果更多地反映了孩子的心智成熟的状况。在以后的学校学习中,孩子虽然年纪最小,却经常在班里充当"一姐"的角色。

虽然许多天才在儿童时期就表现出非凡的智力。但是,神童(智商高)长成天才的却不多。许多神童(智商高)在成长过程中被扼杀。更多的神童(智商高)仅仅是因为起步早,发育好,暂时性地表现出智商高而已。至于智商低的儿童有没有可能成长为天才呢,可能吧。这还有待于进一步考证。

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ttmum2 发表于 2016-4-12 22:52
有那个闲钱就去测吧 ,我对此的好奇心没有我对知道结果的担心强 ,像你说的,孩子智力如何大部分家 ...


我会想去给孩子测智商。这样不会由于自己过高的期望而逼迫孩子,也不想由于自己没有观察到孩子某方面的天赋而泯灭了他。兴趣班多了去了,谁知道刚开始要选什么呢?你怎么知道你选的那些是最适合孩子,和孩子最会感兴趣的呢?

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bettypj 发表于 2016-4-15 21:59
而且没必要迷信测智商,天才到最后默默无闻的多了去了。能有个身心健康的孩子就是最大的福气了 ...

首先,你所说的天才很可能压根就不是天才。其次,很多父母不会教孩子,愣是把天才泯灭为普通人。他智商还是很高,却被严重的性格缺陷(父母的打压,辱骂,胁迫,冷暴力等)所影响自身能力的发挥。
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sarahbing 发表于 2016-4-17 07:30
我会想去给孩子,这样不会由于自己过高的期望而逼迫孩子,也不想由于自己没有观察到孩子某方面的天赋而泯 ...

那就观察出孩子的兴趣所在再针对培养好了,不着急的

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bettypj 发表于 2016-4-17 07:49
那就观察出孩子的兴趣所在再针对培养好了,不着急的

可问题是如果孩子擅长的领域根本不是自己平时接触的呢?比如,我会想当然的给孩子报名游泳,舞蹈,篮球,钢琴等,可孩子却很有绘画天赋,但是由于我自身并没有绘画天赋,也欣赏不了孩子简单幼稚却又包含天赋的涂鸦,在没有专业人士的指点下,我带着孩子的画偶遇某大画家,得到他的赏识的可能性很小吧。或许这一辈子也就错过了。本来是绘画天才的孩子可能在我手上最多给送到画画班,等他长大后,会画很漂亮的漫画,成为了建筑师,但是却由于我的疏忽,遏制了孩子的想象力,又给孩子找了个庸师,永远不能达到他本能达到的油画大师的地位。而我也许会担心孩子的成绩,愣是要把孩子送进补习学校,补习数理化,这样至少能让孩子得个大学文凭。我该自责呢还是该自我安慰,孩子能快快乐乐,自给自足的生活就好

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sarahbing 发表于 2016-4-17 08:09
可问题是如果孩子擅长的领域根本不是自己平时接触的呢?比如,我会想当然的给孩子报名游泳,舞蹈,篮球, ...

如果孩子有天份,在澳大利亚这样的地方不会被埋没的,上了学,老师肯定会看出来,老师一定会告诉你。

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Christy_BJ 发表于 2016-4-17 08:21
你有两个孩子吗?还有个女儿?女孩子一般来说语言更好

不太同意你说的发育早。而是gift孩子学习更快,更 ...

我在这里主要是想说明早期儿童智商测试的不准确性。我并不否认幼儿之间也存在智商差异。然而,由于受到测试手段以及幼儿语言表达能力的限制,真正的智商差异很难通过一般的智商测试得出。因此,孩子是否gifted,家长心里应该最清楚。

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