英语要多久才能很优秀

kawara

想起一句好玩的话。

Fancy words from a fancy man

shadowintopiece

lolachen 发表于 2013-4-17 12:22
1年6个月

哇，奖励自个儿一卷果丹皮先
我猜的是不超过两年。
英语的学习之路很长，共勉吧。

shadowintopiece

lolachen 发表于 2013-4-17 16:52
tell me about it

刚上足迹那会好心跟人讲，被拍得半死，人家用尽各种媒介试图推翻我，都替他累得慌，前车之鉴，我还是省省吧。
我就是测测自己对语言习得的敏感度。
大家反正都是终身的语言学习者了，共勉吧。(paopaobing(64))

Henrychen

要很久。

aliceding_2134

cxzl 发表于 2012-11-20 21:47
这辈子你都甭想“跟汉语一样流利”了，即使是嫁个鬼佬都没戏。

同意,成年后,脑子里学习语言的区域跟儿童时是不一样的,成年后,儿童时学英语区就关闭了,后天练习很难达到母语水平.

yappariY

我当中国人那么久，我的中文还是不是很流利。

bulaohu

lolachen 发表于 2013-4-17 12:07
对了，，我希望自己的小孩有英式口音

很多时候，我们/你们所说的“口音”其实是包括了slang

Really? Mateship was almost written into our constitution. It's so deeply embedded into Australian culture, I don't think there is any shame in using it, nor is it yob-only. John Howard talked about mateship and used the word mate pretty much everywhere, so was Hawky. Are they yobs by your standard?

oceangoing

啥时候你说八小时英文还不感觉到肌肉酸
恭喜你拉
你已经到一个新的层次啦

lolachen

bulaohu 发表于 2013-4-17 18:38
Really? Mateship was almost written into our constitution. It's so deeply embedded into Australian ...

I am sorry if it huts your feelings as an Australian. however It is simply my preference so it is yours.(I did state that it is my personal opinion
A typical british yobbo drives a Subaru and 'mates' everybody.  I agree with you, kinda. it is all about the context
And again I am just talking about stereotype. I myself don't understand yobbos , so I have to put them into classifications, thinking that everyone who acts like that is one (sorry if you find it offensive

btw. the Australian parliament ban the word "mate"

bulaohu

Ouch, my feelings! Thanks for worrying so much about me but that's a bit too intimate mate, so back off will ya?

I'm sure that's all your personal preferences and all, but you write it down in a public forum, which implies you don't mind a bit of discussion around it, am I wrong here?

About the parliament ban...firstly it's a ban applied to the security guards outside the parliament; secondly it's revoked in a day; (http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservic ... 8/050819_mate.shtml) thirdly, the speaker can ban any word he/she doesn't like and it's neither academically reviewed or democratically voted. The parliament room is also totally different from our daily life. So, I'd rather not use it as any sort of proof.

bulaohu

While we're on it, here's an Australian government site link which explains the word mateship well, which I'd recommend to you and everyone here to read, and to understand, if not to appreciate:

http://australia.gov.au/about-au ... diggers-and-wartime

Jenny20102010

回来看了下论坛，好多人在帖子里留言，挺感谢大家的建议和鼓励。我现在在child care centre上班，centre里几个中国人，她们说的英语很简单很清楚。我想气场和自信很重要。英语这东西不是我们的母语，我每天也在学习新的单词，我想英语学习这应该是一个很长的过程。但是我明显感受到多接触社会和说英语的人，对英语的提高有很大的帮助。

lolachen

bulaohu 发表于 2013-4-17 22:24
Ouch, my feelings! Thanks for worrying so much about me but that's a bit too intimate mate, so back  ...

I am sincerely sorry if what I wrote is deemed too intimate by you or your mates.
Polite and potentially fruitful discussion is always welcomed but it appears it wasn't me who is intimidating.

Impressed by your passion about addressing people "mate", I just googled it and it seems that not only the security staff but also the attendants were warned against using "mate"when dealing with the public or members of parliament.

it states on smh website" Secretary for the Department of Parliamentary Services Hilary Penfold said security guards were asked not to refer to visitors as mate in case they caused offence."

"secondly or thirdly", I thought the Australian Parliament represents the Australian people and make (democratic or not) decisions for the nation.
but wait, are we talking about the same country?
well, I agreed with you that these mates/technocrats are so disconnected from the public; How dare they find it offensive to be greeted in an Australian way

Thanks for sharing that wonderful website; I echo many sentiments.
just make sure you realize we are not talking about mate-ship but simply the way to address people when you forget their name.

Denise

沒天份的話，再努力也不會好到哪裏去

bulaohu

lolachen 发表于 2013-4-17 23:12
I am sincerely sorry if what I wrote is deemed too intimate by you or your mates.
Polite and poten ...

Introducing other people's "hurt feelings" into a discussion is neither polite nor constructive, and that is exactly how this discussion turned bad here, I do hope you learned this today. Other than that, I'm done here. Bye.

lolachen

bulaohu 发表于 2013-4-18 00:05
Introducing other people's "hurt feelings" into a discussion is neither polite nor constructive, a ...

no offence intended. In fact, I dont even care.

I thought it would be a nice example of some clearly-expressed chinglish for the OP.
apparently, I was wrong.

nis

donotgo 发表于 2012-11-26 20:16
你要学能hold住大场面的英语的话，建议去参加演讲的培训
要么就学学议会辩论的人讲话
不然每天上班过日子 ...

演讲培训哪里有？

zujiusername

主流社会在我看来就是朋友大多数都是鬼佬，能自由的沟通。本地人说什么谈论什么都可以自如的加入话题。但是应该是很难。

bibili

Lovebigcat 发表于 2012-11-21 00:18
英语就像减肥，没有最好，只有更好！

但人生若总减肥，是很没趣的。时不时减点就可以了。 ...

这个比喻太贴切了

dolphindolphin

ys98 发表于 2012-11-20 21:52
母语和外语永远有区别

同意

dolphindolphin

floodp 发表于 2013-4-10 16:31
这个经典。
我用了差不多五年才达到这个境界。

dolphindolphin

CDCD 发表于 2012-11-21 19:55
好像不用说到很好很好才能做你想要做的事吧。
重要的是通俗易懂说到要点有自己的思想。
本地人英文说再好， ...

这位同学实际

dolphindolphin

无产阶级 发表于 2013-4-10 16:34
主流社会是个很可笑的概念。
其实就是圈子，你在什么圈子混的。如果按财富分，10M, 30M, 200M。和人种没有 ...

MU

慢慢来吧。。得看用在什么地方了。

想也没用

Jenny20102010 发表于 2012-11-21 14:45
老公老外也不够用，我吵架不输他的。不过我老公只比我大几岁哈。但我要的英语是很好很好，好得可以Hold住 ...

好得可以Hold住的大场面???? ...

想也没用

colognel 发表于 2013-4-13 22:07
如果能把自己想象成小孩，心无挂碍的就像重来没学过英语一样去吸收每一个你发现的新单词和用法，我 ...

想也没用

印度英语嘛，你一有空就打个电话上vodafone/optus的customer service投诉或者跟他们要offer就可以免费练习英语了，说不定还搞到一个好的deal

jhjhjhjhjh

MIRACLE315 发表于 2012-11-21 12:18
did you chat with local farmers?
they have horrible accent too.

Goo'day Coba, how's hanging?  就是这种人说的话。

何木

jhjhjhjhjh 发表于 2013-4-30 12:05
Goo'day Coba, how's hanging?  就是这种人说的话。

one day or two, or a life time? and how do you define excellence? so long as u r good enough for your purpose .. be happy..living in Australia is not all about English...

bhyqs

“要多久”才能优秀？

学无止境。

况且，语言掌握的熟练程度不是用时间来衡量的。