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[全澳] VANGUARD ENDEAVOR HD 65A 高清观瞄镜望远镜, 喜欢观鸟,打猎,摄影的人不可错过. Ebay Code: PYLON 实付$319 [复制链接]

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精买版的本意就是要精,不但价廉,还要物美。你这种垃圾货色实在有损精买版的名声啊。
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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 16:42
精买版的本意就是要精,不但价廉,还要物美。你这种垃圾货色实在有损精买版的名声啊。 ...

说的没错,Yukon在中国工长厂长应该对你感恩戴德,把他们那么垃圾的产品拿到精买版来秀还能把差的说成好的,把好的说成差的  

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至于东西好不好,买家才有资格说:
        MolecularEnergyDr
5.0 out of 5 starsGreat all around scope, super light and versatile
January 14, 2019
I was looking for a low power large objective scope and this is the closest thing I found. I use it for wild animal watching like in a cruise in Antarctica and other places. Its fairly easy to quickly spot a whale or a wondering albatross with the 25mm objective and switch to the 100mm. The higuest magnification I usually use is 36x as I like detail and good resolution. I wish the levels of magnification would not be more than 16x-60x in order to have better resolution at lower magnification. Another wish would be to increase the size of the 25mm to 35 or so.
There isn't any other product like it in the market as it is very light due to mirrors instead of lenses.
I use it on top of a monopod instead of tripod for easy movement and air transportation as the tripods are heavy and bulky.
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        Ronny
5.0 out of 5 starsHuge magnification range
October 29, 2004
When I came across this Yukon 6-100x scope I thought the concept was great. After doing some research and finding some strong magazine reveiws I went ahead a got it. When I first pulled it out of the box I saw it came in a soft case that can be used while looking through the scope. It also has a good strap to carrying.

With the scope in my hands I first saw that there is an extendable sunshade on the end that cant be seen from the picture. The scope is very light, especially for its size not to mention a fairly different looking housing. The glass looks good and has two objective lenses. Switching between the two is easy with the knob on the side. On the top there is a dial too which tells you the magnification you are at. The eyepiece rotates 360 degrees and has a good eyepeice focus on it. As far as clarity, the scope is very good. Obviously the image quality is better at the lower powers but the high power is quite good as well. Even at over a 90 magnification. I haven't seen anything else that has the range of this scope, I don't know why other companies aren't doing this. It seems good for most needs even astronomy but mine will be parked at a window at my house.

This was an intresting scope so just a little food for thought. I liked it.
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        Linda
5.0 out of 5 starsFrom a birding enthusiast
November 1, 2004
I first saw this scope at the our local International Migratory Birding event. (For those who don't know about this, it takes place every second Saturday in May. It celebrates the return migration of our native birds across the country. An excellent event, look for your local gathering.) The scope looked quite different from conventional spotting scopes. This was because it isn't conventional. The magnification range goes from 6 to 100. This range is almost outrageous but it really works. The dial on the top is nice. It gives you a constant readout as to what magnification you are at. The rotating eyepiece is an excellent idea for this scope. Two can use it at the same time by just passing it back and forth. Something important when choosing a scope, especially for birding, is magnification and weight. The 100x scope is very light. I have no problems carrying this into the woods or on a hike. I wish it came with a hardcase but the soft case that is included is nice and is actaully functional.

If you are looking for a scope within this price range, seriously consider this one.

你这种纸上谈兵的,也配?

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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 16:46
至于东西好不好,买家才有资格说:
        MolecularEnergyDr
5.0 out of 5 starsGreat all around scope, super  ...

呵呵,自然是买家有资格说, 除了亚麻了,各大观鸟论坛都对Vanguard家的有成千上万的好评

January 1, 2019
Size: 65mmVerified Purchase
Great optics for the price. Portable and easy to mount on a tripod. Zoom and focus are smooth and images are crisp nearly to the end of the zoom range. Actually could see the shock wave during bullet flight on long-range targets. Viewing animals, landscapes and celestial bodies is impressive. We even shot great images of the eclipse with appropriate filters and a smartphone mount.

My only complaint is that it is not very well balanced on the tripod. The weight is toward the eyepiece and is difficult to get the image to stay put with an every day tripod. The mounting foot is too far forward. To really enjoy this, spend the money on a really good tripod.


5.0 out of 5 starsBuy it
January 11, 2015
Size: 65mmVerified Purchase
I researched for some time before buying this scope and I am very pleased with the quality. Buy the best glass you can afford and for me this was it. Small enough to fit in my side compartment on my backpack and has a quality feel. Defiantly recommend.

Jose P.
5.0 out of 5 starsGreat scope for birding!
July 28, 2017
Size: 65mmVerified Purchase
I've bought this scope specially for birding trips. At first I was nott so sure about this model and brand because I'd never tested it before, but now I can say that it is JUST GREAT! I'm so happy with it, It's easy to carry, comfortable and powerfull. I've already use it on highlands and beaches and the colors, quality is amazing.

        idcuda
5.0 out of 5 stars65mm = great value and function
August 18, 2014
Size: 65mmVerified Purchase
(65mm version) Nice, clear optics. This is an easy-to-use scope with all the features you need for hunting. The focus and zoom adjustments are quick and accurate. What's not mentioned in the description is the body rotation that allows you to rotate the eyepiece to the left or right with the twist of a knob. This allows you to adjust your glassing area without moving your body.

The optics are good and clear at all but the upper end of the zoom. The highest zoom levels are functional and meet my needs, but don't expect the same results as $1k optics. The eye relief is very comfortable at all levels, as long as you adjust the eye cup as you go. I've glassed for hours at a time with no fatigue.

Attach this to a decent tripod and you'll be set.


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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 14:54
呵呵,自然是买家有资格说, 除了亚麻了,各大观鸟论坛都对Vanguard家的有成千上万的好评

January 1, 20 ...

对啊,所以才有美国亚马逊最终评分3星半的结果。你继续忽悠也没法改他们的评价。

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继续来个 Full Detail Review

https://www.irelandswildlife.com ... tting-scope-review/

First impressions

When you first lay your eyes on the Endeavor HD it looks like a quality scope. Its compact size, sleek lines and solid build make for a scope that gives an excellent all-round first impression....


Optical Performance

Unsurprisingly the Endeavor HD 65A shares its key optical characteristics with its big brother the 85A. It sports the same ED glass in the objective lens elements to minimise chromatic aberration (colour fringing), the same phase-corrected prisms and the same suite of proprietary Vanguard coatings on all air-to-glass surfaces.

The result: a very bright, sharp image with excellent colour and detail throughout the lower two thirds of the zoom range. Some softening is evident towards the edge of the fairly wide field of view (48-23m / 1000m)… but nothing beyond what you’d expect in a scope at this price point. All in all it’s a capable scope that performs very well from 15x to about 35x.

As you crank the zoom beyond 35x the story changes. Edges become fuzzier, and noticeably darker. Resolution drops off markedly, and you have to hunt for focus, even with the fine-focus knob. It’s just about usable, at a push, in good light, but you’d be hard pressed to pick out fine plumage detail at 45x for a distant ID.

To be fair to Vanguard here I’d like to point out that it’s a trait common to most zoom eyepieces. Very few zooms maintain performance at higher zoom levels (of those I’ve tried only the expensive high end Swarovski and Meopta wide angle zoom eyepieces, and the astonishingly capable eyepiece that comes with the Olivon T650 spotting scope, manage to achieve it). I’d love to try this scope with a fixed 25x or 30x wide angle eyepiece, but alas Vanguard don’t make one. Something to perhaps consider as an option in the future, as I feel it would make for a more compelling birding and wildlife-watching combination.

For most birding and wildlife watching scenarios the lower 15x-35x zoom range is ideal, so in practice there’s little need to crank things up beyond that.....


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真卖力,可惜力气用错地方了。拼多多上的垃圾测评不要太多,你学着点。

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还成千上万,吹牛不是这么吹的。美亚上面14到19年,5年也就70多个人买,你跟我说成千上万人评价? 你找出5000个人的评论算我输。

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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 16:59
对啊,所以才有美国亚马逊最终评分3星半的结果。你继续忽悠也没法改他们的评价。
...

来看看Yukon是什么玩意 3.1星,销量低星更低。 别告诉我其它商家在卖这个的时候加了个点缀词 "高级" 就不是同一个产品,Yukon家官方压根就只有这么一个东西。  

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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 15:11
来看看Yukon是什么玩意 3.1星,销量低星更低。 别告诉我其它商家在卖这个的时候加了个点缀词 "高级" 就不 ...

你来来去去就是弄个不同型号搅浑水,还能有点出息不?



而且这个就算再差,也改变不了你那个垃圾的事实啊?

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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-19 14:26
美亚:https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Advanced-Optics-6-100x100-Eyepiece/dp/B0002HBMJO
BH:https://www. ...

3千元的瞄准镜,吓得我都枪掉了!
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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 17:56
你来来去去就是弄个不同型号搅浑水,还能有点出息不?

怎么不是同型号呢?官方只有这一个,你画出来的那个只是不同颜色。

我可以猜测之所以有商家加了个点缀词"advanced" 就是因为原来那个3.1分已经烂透顶了,连素质不高玩枪的Redneck们都不满意了,只能想办法弄一个新title的并且找人Bump up 7个review这样一来可以躲过亚马逊的旧Review.

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同理那个画出来的产品也加了词比如 “ship from japan” 伪装成新产品来躲过亚马逊的旧Review., 可惜有1个人买了之后直接给了2分。

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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 17:09
同理那个画出来的产品也加了词比如 “ship from japan” 伪装成新产品来躲过亚马逊的旧Review., 可惜有1个 ...

你看,你的张嘴就来的老毛病又犯了
很好奇你的生活该是多么的无趣啊,你的亲戚朋友应该都是躲着你走的吧

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产品换代不是很正常的事吗?比如新一代奥迪Q5出来,老款停产,新款名称不变继续生产,怎么到你嘴里就变味道了?可以想见你的人生是多么的不幸,对一切充满了怨恨。

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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 19:15
你看,你的张嘴就来的老毛病又犯了
很好奇你的生活该是多么的无趣啊,你的亲戚朋友应该都是躲着你走的 ...

让你失望了,我专治对光学产品无知的人
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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 19:18
产品换代不是很正常的事吗?比如新一代奥迪Q5出来,老款停产,新款名称不变继续生产,怎么到你嘴里就变味道 ...

我可以很肯定作为一个厂家更新新的型号不会加 “advanced", "ship from Japan" 作为新产品名称.

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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 17:18
让你失望了,我专治对光学产品无知的人

明显你把自己给治废了,语无伦次还暗自伤悲,何苦呢?

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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 17:21
我可以很肯定作为一个厂家更新新的型号不会加 “advanced", "ship from Japan" 作为新产品名称. ...

就如同你张口就来说人家是中国产品,事实上人家是毛子的产品,造谣会被追究的。
HISTORY

The company Yukon Advanced Optics Worldwide was founded in 1998 on the basis of two private enterprises – a manufacturing one in the Republic of Belarus, which was producing spotting scopes since 1991, and a trading optical one located in Texas, USA. The product line of the company included day optical devices (spotting scopes and binoculars).  

In 1999, as the range of day optics grew, the company started to manufacture first night vision devices. Just two years later, in 2001, the first night vision riflescope – the NVRS – was launched.  

In 2003 the development of digital devices – Ranger 5x42 and Ranger Pro 5x42 was initiated.  

In 2005 company’s share on the international market of Gen. 1 NV devices reached 70%.  

In 2006-2008 featured a significant expansion of the product range of optical devices, including digital, and building of a wide line of night vision devices and riflescopes that formed the basis of a new trademark – Pulsar.  

In the following years the company introduced a number of new directions, among them digital night vision riflescopes (2009), laser rangefinders, daylight optical sights (2010), thermal imagers (2011), night lens clip-on attachments (2012), night vision riflescopes with built-in rangefinders (2013), thermal imaging riflescopes (2014) and clip-on attachments (2015).

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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 19:25
就如同你张口就来说人家是中国产品,事实上人家是毛子的产品,造谣会被追究的。
HISTORY

毛子的民用产品更不行啦,中国好歹还有不少厂家还能代工FL, ED玻璃和主镜目镜,比如Celestron家的Ultima 和 Regal系列观测镜。

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呵呵,已经习惯了你的张口就来。毛子的军械说他是全球顶尖也不为过,毛子的光学是从德国全套搬过来的,有狡辩的时间多读读书多好。
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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 19:53
呵呵,已经习惯了你的张口就来。毛子的军械说他是全球顶尖也不为过,毛子的光学是从德国全套搬过来的,有狡 ...

我上面说民用光学产品, 你跟我说军械?  就算老毛子军械牛B请问,它跟你那个产品有半毛关系?  还有毛子的光学是从德国全套搬过来是几几年的事情啦?  那时候中国还没解放吧,那年头的光学技术到现在还能用? 都9102年了哎。

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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 18:19
我上面说民用光学产品, 你跟我说军械?  就算老毛子军械牛B请问,它跟你那个产品有半毛关系?  还有毛子 ...

望远镜,枪瞄不是军械?二战前的徕卡镜头到今天都是精品,至今被人家接在数码相机上用;毛子从德国掳走的不是镜头,而是整个设计生产工艺乃至于设备。

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davidmouse 发表于 2019-6-20 20:49
望远镜,枪瞄不是军械?二战前的徕卡镜头到今天都是精品,至今被人家接在数码相机上用;毛子从德国掳走的 ...

二战前的徕卡镜头到今天已经根本不能看了,甚至90年代的徕卡和现在的徕卡都有巨大的差距。 毛子从德国掳走的只是设备,和制造工艺,但是光学方面人才全跑去了西德, 只能吃老底子到了80年代就不行了。

说起蔡司也是一样,蔡司90年代的Contax 50/1.4 Planar 准镜头和今天索尼上的蔡司 FE 50/1.4比Planar比差距也是不小, 虽然都是Planar结构,但是新头用了各种名贵玻璃组什么AA非球面ED玻璃啥都有,画质分辨率就是强了很多。

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发表于 2019-6-20 22:40 |显示全部楼层
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楼上两位别吵了,都感觉是专家的说

想问下这类望远镜能不能接Sony A7之类的单电相机啊?有没有500刀以内推荐的单筒望远镜比较好的,旅游看鸟,机场看飞机之类的~

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cccc_2001gao 发表于 2019-6-20 21:40
楼上两位别吵了,都感觉是专家的说

想问下这类望远镜能不能接Sony A7之类的单电相机啊?有没有500刀以内推 ...

这种镜子更适合拿手机或相机对着目镜拍哈。装单电单反相机可以买个T口转接环。
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发表于 2019-6-20 23:22 |显示全部楼层
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eguan88 发表于 2019-6-20 19:18
二战前的徕卡镜头到今天已经根本不能看了,甚至90年代的徕卡和现在的徕卡都有巨大的差距。 毛子从德国掳 ...

你没见过不代表没有
http://www.sohu.com/a/225068994_160291

事实上诸如此类的转接,让老镜头焕发青春的事情多得是。从另外一个角度讲,老镜头并不差,可见当年的技术有多好。

发表于 2019-6-20 23:39 |显示全部楼层
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cccc_2001gao 发表于 2019-6-20 19:40
楼上两位别吵了,都感觉是专家的说

想问下这类望远镜能不能接Sony A7之类的单电相机啊?有没有500刀以内推 ...

渣一样的望远镜转微单的成像你能接受?拍照片还是老老实实用相机镜头,哪怕接个老式的手动折返镜头,都远超这种望远镜+微单的效果。只有天文没办法,因为没有那么高倍数的相机镜头。

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代为是在西澳的著名摄影家

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感觉要变成镜头贴,我有几只比我年纪大的东德蔡司CZJ,别说萤石镜片了,连镀膜都没有,好多霉点,不过用M42转接以后还挺有味道,话说现在好点的中长焦几乎都是萤石镜片啊,低端的也都用的是人工合成的低色散玻璃,佳能基本是这样,成像的差别肉眼可见啊。

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