CPA 113 考前讨论帖。。。【考试结束咯！】

Errand

原帖由 CXZHANG 于 2010-4-28 20:36 发表
Price of water in Australia compared with other products is very low

historical or future?

CXZHANG

could be both

oddboy

原帖由 rogerze5046 于 2010-4-28 19:25 发表



ECO OF SCOPE & MARKETING
2个而已。。。

TOTALLY DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR GUYS POINT OF VIEWS...

strategic capabilities的重要指标是：value by customer, better than the competitors及not easy to replicate，如果三者都是tick的话，才是strategic capability...

请诸位read the case fact carefully....

bt123123

International beverages limited 算 focus or Differentiation?

i think it is focus.....

Errand

原帖由 oddboy 于 2010-4-28 21:52 发表


TOTALLY DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR GUYS POINT OF VIEWS...

strategic capabilities的重要指标是：value by customer, better than the competitors及not easy to replicate，如果三者都是tick的话，才是strateg ...

仔细读了啊，这个东西很主观，你觉得他better than the ccompetitors,但是我觉得不是。
你觉得他easy to replicate,但是我觉得不是。。。。
就要看你自己怎么去理解和解释

Errand

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-28 22:17 发表
International beverages limited 算 focus or Differentiation?

i think it is focus.....

我写的是diff

bt123123

my point is focus on specific consumer requirements........

Errand

原帖由 CXZHANG 于 2010-4-28 20:36 发表
Price of water in Australia compared with other products is very low

我个人觉得：经济
有点纠结，因为这个我没写

bt123123

diff is doing somthing different from competitors or doing it better.....

so i don't think international beverage is diff...

Errand

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-28 22:33 发表
my point is focus on specific consumer requirements........

我又看了一遍case，又觉得是focus了
不知道为何我们group的人认为是diff

bt123123

你的group 同我的group 不同嗎?

lamdog

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-28 22:38 发表


我又看了一遍case，又觉得是focus了
不知道为何我们group的人认为是diff

my answer is.... diff and focus....
Specific consumer requirements --- focus (Module 4.18 Focused functional capability)
Product range, distribution channel, brand name --- diff (4.17)

sunshinelily

Political

sunshinelily

又有新的问题和大家讨论一下：

1. 有什么论点说Buster的srategy是leadership?我认为是diffeentiation,论点是one of te areas of fucos is innovation for all its beverage.

2.有什么论点说International的srategy是differentiaion?我认为是focus,论点是focus on specific consumer requirements

3.Distribution coverage算不算abl的capability stategy呢？---个人认为不算，butlers has strong distribution capability.

4. 关于branding, breath of product range (economic of scope),本来我是认为算是abl的capability srategic的，但现在又觉得不是了，论点就是因为abl还没进入botled water，强不过buster。大家的论点呢？

[ 本帖最后由 sunshinelily 于 2010-4-28 23:07 编辑 ]

Errand

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-28 22:54 发表
你的group 同我的group 不同嗎?

不同的
我们那天好像没讨论到这个

jemmyqiu

i still think intenaional beverage is Diff

also any idea for transformational leadership, i think should be Fine tuning, but maybe Incremental adjustment also correct.
for strategic leadership style, is Caretaker correct? anyone??

郁闷中~~~

sunshinelily

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-28 22:33 发表
my point is focus on specific consumer requirements........

我也是这样认为的，但不知道大家为什么说是differentiation,所以很想知道论点是什么

sunshinelily

to bt123123

那你认为BUTLERS是什么呢？我认为是differentiation，但其他人都认为是leader，我想知道是什么论点？因为case没讲butlers有low cost的strategy牙。

bt123123

原帖由 sunshinelily 于 2010-4-28 23:14 发表
to bt123123

那你认为BUTLERS是什么呢？我认为是differentiation，但其他人都认为是leader，我想知道是什么论点？因为case没讲butlers有low cost的strategy牙。

Bulter is ................ leader.....
leader somehow equal to low cost and diff....

if the co can have achieve low cost and diff, how can it be a market leader....

bt123123

大家做ansoff時，寫有關收購hydrate and fountain 時 under market penetration或 product development？

lamdog

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-28 23:50 发表
大家做ansoff時，寫有關收購hydrate and fountain 時 under market penetration或 product development？

for me...
i put 收購hydrate and fountain 時 under market penetration

and i put 收購fountain 時 under market expansion....

lamdog

anyway,
will all of us put what we have got here  for our exam before 4/5 ?

at least we can share the ideas and do a final check b4 the exam...
do need to put everything.,,, just put the main points for each section

kcyoa

hey guys. what are the implementation issues?  or what issues abl might face if acquisition of hydrate water go head?  
i think above question is very ralated to the exam. please think about it and make some comment

thx

winnieet

how come did you find that Bulter economie of scale is better than ABL? Just because of the largest competitor in non-alcoholic industry?
There are no EBIT, ROA and ROI to support it.

And where does "Bottled water manufacturers often contract out the actual extraction of water to external providers" place to what factors?

winnieet

ncreasing awareness of the obesity problem is positive for the industy?

Errand

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-28 23:50 发表
大家做ansoff時，寫有關收購hydrate and fountain 時 under market penetration或 product development？

hydrate ----product development,这里我也还在纠结，究竟什么才是新产品？
fountain----market expansion (possible export)

Errand

原帖由 kcyoa 于 2010-4-29 01:05 发表
hey guys. what are the implementation issues?  or what issues abl might face if acquisition of hydrate water go head?  
i think above question is very ralated to the exam. please think about it and m ...

这个问题是你自己想的，还是case里面有的？

SEIKO

原帖由 winnieet 于 2010-4-29 02:48 发表
how come did you find that Bulter economie of scale is better than ABL? Just because of the largest competitor in non-alcoholic industry?
There are no EBIT, ROA and ROI to support it.

这个就是我CONFUSED的地方，因为BUTLERS占最大的MARKET SHARE,但是ABL却产生最多的PROFIT，而且两者的GENERIC STRATEGY都是LEADER，所以我觉得ABL在ECONOMIES OF SCALE这方面还是最强？

oddboy

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-29 08:40 发表


这个问题是你自己想的，还是case里面有的？

这个肯定只能自已想，因为没有完整的信息。。。，case给的内容太少，很难推断。。。

Errand

原帖由 oddboy 于 2010-4-29 09:04 发表


这个肯定只能自已想，因为没有完整的信息。。。，case给的内容太少，很难推断。。。

我能把module7里面的东西都做完了就不错了