CPA 113 考前讨论帖。。。【考试结束咯！】

pkseto

原帖由 shaunhuang 于 2010-4-27 13:57 发表
很明显strategic option应该是去acquire，但是在接下去分析Is the strategy feasible?的时候，case中明显提到further consolidation will be difficult due to the relatively high market shares held by the four  ...

ABL do not have bottled water markt before so ABL has no problem to acquire this segment.  but other beverage segment is unknown

Hyrate and Fountains may contain some markets but no as much as Butlers.  so ABL may not break the competition policy if acquiring them

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一缕香魂

module 7是用 industry key sucess factor apply to strategic capability test, 可是case里面也是用那4 factors吗？还是自己总结？总觉得好像那个不是说ABL的 CAPABILITY阿.

rogerze5046

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-27 09:22 发表


我按书上写的。

你一上班就发帖子啊。。。哈哈哈

winnieet

What is the structure of Hydrate Water ? Is it a decentralization structure?
Please help

rogerze5046

cant tell

yodel

9 am

原帖由 yodel 于 2010-4-26 22:39 发表
这个星期六 墨尔本the pines library-Doncaster East  如果有兴趣的话请来加入小组讨论。

yodel

1。abl想要成为龙头老大有些困难
-Butlers is the first company supplies nationally and also has the largest share in BW market. ABL想要超过不容易
-The snack food market, ABL 只进入一年， Butlers 在这个领域20 年了
-butlers 对多有的产品都要求innovative. ABL 更多是新产品研发
-butlers 的中央集权制确定了公司目标一致性。 ABL的管理是decentralised 下面的units 是不是aligned with the company's business strategies.
2.csd%太高
3. employee retention and communication are poor. high staff turnover and lack of skilled crew can cost the company more.

原帖由 rogerze5046 于 2010-4-26 23:06 发表
Strategy issue 大家写了几个？

我目前才找到
1) CSD %
2) Inexperience in BW

rogerze5046

原帖由 yodel 于 2010-4-27 19:09 发表
1。abl想要成为龙头老大有些困难
-Butlers is the first company supplies nationally and also has the largest share in BW market. ABL想要超过不容易
-The snack food market, ABL 只进入一年， Butlers 在这个 ...

恩～总体感觉上可以稀里糊涂写不少issue

johnjohn

ABL had entered the snack food market since 2004 by acquisition of several small business (p.16)

rogerze5046

呵呵·～～楼上的朋友谢谢更正
不过我相信那个”YODEL“的意图是想表达ABL和bulter在snack food industry中经验的客观差距。

rogerze5046

咋给积分来着的？

Errand

原帖由 rogerze5046 于 2010-4-27 20:48 发表
咋给积分来着的？

没层楼，右下角，有个评分的
你才穿草鞋，还早呢，至少200分以上才能加分

gilgil

ok confirmed!

rogerze5046

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-27 21:03 发表


没层楼，右下角，有个评分的
你才穿草鞋，还早呢，至少200分以上才能加分

没关系～我是水王。。。哈哈哈(paopaobing(88))

Errand

原帖由 yodel 于 2010-4-27 19:09 发表
1。abl想要成为龙头老大有些困难
-Butlers is the first company supplies nationally and also has the largest share in BW market. ABL想要超过不容易
-The snack food market, ABL 只进入一年， Butlers 在这个 ...

我有个问题，你说CSD%太高，可是ABL已经意识到了这个问题，他们从2000年的90%，减少到2009年的68%，并且还在每年递减。
为什么CSD的百分率高还会被算为ABL的strategy issue呢？他们已经意识到了呀。

lamdog

hey
thx so much... i was stuck in the issues.....

lcx

又没有TX在堪培拉的,星期六出来讨论一下呀?

yodel

2007-2012 的目标是赶超Butlers
尽管ABL 已经意识到了但是当前68% 的csd是不利于公司的可持续发展和未来同行业竞争。但是这一传统产品或者说abl的核心产品不会在短期减少。 到2015年 期望是低于50% 但前提是non-CSD产品成功取代并且带来更高利润。这是一个期望值。

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-27 21:23 发表


我有个问题，你说CSD%太高，可是ABL已经意识到了这个问题，他们从2000年的90%，减少到2009年的68%，并且还在每年递减。
为什么CSD的百分率高还会被算为ABL的strategy issue呢？他们已经意识到了呀。

sunshinelily

又有新的问题和大家讨论一下：

1. 有什么论点说Buster的srategy是leadership?我认为是diffeentiation,论点是one of te areas of fucos is innovation for all its beverage.

2.有什么论点说International的srategy是differentiaion?我认为是focus,论点是focus on specific consumer requirements

3.Distribution coverage算不算abl的capability stategy呢？

4. 关于branding, breath of product range (economic of scope),本来我是认为算是abl的capability srategic的，但现在又觉得不是了，论点就是因为abl还没进入botled water，强不过buster。大家的论点呢？

sunshinelily

原帖由 yodel 于 2010-4-27 19:09 发表
1。abl想要成为龙头老大有些困难
-Butlers is the first company supplies nationally and also has the largest share in BW market. ABL想要超过不容易
-The snack food market, ABL 只进入一年， Butlers 在这个 ...

As per the case fact, where can you get the point that the Butlers is centralised structure?

Thanks

lamdog

原帖由 sunshinelily 于 2010-4-27 22:01 发表
又有新的问题和大家讨论一下：

1. 有什么论点说Buster的srategy是leadership?我认为是diffeentiation,论点是one of te areas of fucos is innovation for all its beverage.

2.有什么论点说International的sra ...

其实什样知道他们的geneic strategy? generic strategy 和 strength 有什样分别?

pkseto

原帖由 yodel 于 2010-4-27 19:09 发表
1。abl想要成为龙头老大有些困难
-Butlers is the first company supplies nationally and also has the largest share in BW market. ABL想要超过不容易
-The snack food market, ABL 只进入一年， Butlers 在这个 ...

I am not 100% agree:

decentralization is a effective way to repsone to the market.  ABL is in the beverage market already, they found problem to running SNACK BUSINESS, need different production skill, NOT IN BEVERAGE BUSINESS.   poor communication is related to SNACK BUSINESS.  the case said that they knew the communication problem and will do well later

Errand

原帖由 pkseto 于 2010-4-27 22:30 发表


I am not 100% agree:

decentralization is a effective way to repsone to the market.  ABL is in the beverage market already, they found problem to running SNACK BUSINESS, need different productio ...

我想，他指的是P19中间的resignation created a significant skill's gap in the business，他们要赶快lure staff..
其实我也有点纠结，这个问题，他们自己也意识到了，也还算strategy issue么？

rogerze5046

原帖由 lamdog 于 2010-4-27 22:13 发表

其实什样知道他们的geneic strategy? generic strategy 和 strength 有什样分别?

1）用定义去判断。

2） 两者差别很大。如同：你擅长什麽跟你怎么做是两回事情。一个是能力 一个是策略。

(paopaobing(11))

pkseto

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-27 22:36 发表


我想，他指的是P19中间的resignation created a significant skill's gap in the business，他们要赶快lure staff..
其实我也有点纠结，这个问题，他们自己也意识到了，也还算strategy issue么？

the skill gap in snack food business does not affect skill used in the water bottle business.

Of course problem in snack food department will affect the whole group.  

but maybe only need to foucs on integration and implmentation issue after the acquisiton of water bottle business.

rogerze5046

请问 acquire snack food算是option4？ new product+new market？？

vivijeans

"Short and long-term incentives need to be developed for shared services staff" 请问这个是为了解决什么implementation issue?

还有"eternal water" 请问大家都用到哪里了？

野草

粗略过了一遍所有的问题，突然发现 page 5-6 大概一页纸的内容
在讲still water & sparkling water 的过去和将来发展趋势，
我一点都没用上。

各位TX， 请问这块你们有用么？用到哪里了？谢谢

rogerze5046

粗略的回答你
我用了。。

(paopaobing(64)) 在分析将来市场的growth & profit 的时候

rogerze5046

原帖由 vivijeans 于 2010-4-27 23:26 发表
"Short and long-term incentives need to be developed for shared services staff" 请问这个是为了解决什么implementation issue?

还有"eternal water" 请问大家都用到哪里了？

谢谢提醒。。我等会儿去考虑怎么+"eternal water"

至于"Short and long-term incentives need to be developed for shared services staff" 你哪儿看来的？