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Wobat

Butlers is better than ABL when ananlying economies of scale?  How to know this?

cherry_melody

想得不对

[ 本帖最后由 cherry_melody 于 2010-4-25 23:18 编辑 ]

Wobat

原帖由 cherry_melody 于 2010-4-25 22:12 发表


资料P8 5.1 Non-alcoholic beverage:
On that basis, there are still significant opportunities for growth in all non-alcoholic beverages, including CSDs.

很明确的说法,为什么认为NAB在mature stage?

Please read the study guide p2.25, even in mature stage, there is still growth.

野草

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-25 22:18 发表


Please read the study guide p2.25, even in mature stage, there is still growth.

同意.mature 并不代表不增长，而是说增长趋于缓慢或者平稳。

野草

请问大家，在分析strategic options的时候，主要针对BW 各种发展可能分析
还是要站在ABL的角度分析，比如带上咖啡什么的来做

cherry_melody

不好意思

[ 本帖最后由 cherry_melody 于 2010-4-25 23:18 编辑 ]

野草

原帖由 cherry_melody 于 2010-4-25 22:53 发表
Siginificant opportunities 是关键, 和单纯opportunities有本质的区别.

而且,从这句话之前的数据来分析: 179.7 litres per capita in 2005 to 228.5 litres per capita in 2009, 5年增长127%, 每年增长25%, 这不 ...

个人意见， 增长率MS应该是（228.5-179.7）/179.7 =27.2% totally
27.2/4 =6.8% per yr

野草

呵呵, 没什么，都是这么纠结过来的.
讨论一下，才能理理思路， 呵呵

chris_huhu

请问question h， 5Q中的第一个
Does ABL  plan to  grow?

The stated strategy 是： grow the company's share of NAB market to move from the 2nd largest to the largest competitor in this market.

还是： to satisfy Aus's thirst by being a manufacturer of NAB  for every occation in every location?

还是两个都是呢？

rogerze5046

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-25 22:05 发表


no value chain for NAB, only for BW industry.

恩 VALUE CHAIN用来分析NAB将来的profitability。
我个人一直采用CSD BW互相比照着写。所以写到将来的时候就可以把BW的cost分析用作一个总体趋势的参考。。。。

CXZHANG

Hi guys,

Could you please come up more ideas of ABL and Hydrate Water inernal consistent factors, thanks. :)

n terms of internal consistent??? - both organization is particularly well know in the industry for its packaging innovation to grow profitably, Both produce NAB and compete in domestic market, target similar customers and use similar distribution channels.

CXZHANG

I will start part B tomorrow and will try to answers questions based on acquisition Hydrate water not Fountain Spring, - someone told me need to prepare two set answers, one for anaysis risk and benefit of Hydrate Water (What choos HW and why not choose hw etc)and another for Fountain(What choos Fand why not choose F etc),how about u? And the my case order  is below exclude task 2, as these are unlike to ask. How about u, did u prepare all?
Task 1 a-b

Task 4 a.b.c.e

Task3


Thanks

Wobat

原帖由 chris_huhu 于 2010-4-26 00:00 发表
请问question h， 5Q中的第一个
Does ABL  plan to  grow?

The stated strategy 是： grow the company's share of NAB market to move from the 2nd largest to the largest competitor in this market.

还是 ...

My answer is "grow the company's share ..... to the largest competitor"

Wobat

原帖由 CXZHANG 于 2010-4-26 01:10 发表
I will start part B tomorrow and will try to answers questions based on acquisition Hydrate water not Fountain Spring, - someone told me need to prepare two set answers, one for anaysis risk and benef ...

I have no idea about Task 2 and task 3. I am planning to analysis the acquisition of Hydrate for task 1 (a,b) and task 4(a.b.c.e)

Wobat

Task 3 should be very important.

Is there any need to analysis "establish its own operation"?
from the case fact, there are some information about still water and sparkling water, is this related to "establish its own operation"?

[ 本帖最后由 Wobat 于 2010-4-26 09:01 编辑 ]

bt123123

establish its own operation is one of the option for ABL....

bt123123

原帖由 SEIKO 于 2010-4-25 18:29 发表
PART B　准备不了吧
都没有多余的INFOR关于以后的AQQUISITION的ISSUES

what do you 准备 for part B?

I have (part b, task 3)7s, (part b task 2 c, d)Kotter's model , Rationale for acquisition (Part B task 1)
其他question 可能不會做.... (will do task 4 today)

[ 本帖最后由 bt123123 于 2010-4-26 09:29 编辑 ]

bt123123

原帖由 CXZHANG 于 2010-4-26 01:10 发表
I will start part B tomorrow and will try to answers questions based on acquisition Hydrate water not Fountain Spring, - someone told me need to prepare two set answers, one for anaysis risk and benef ...

你不做task 2 c,d?

bt123123

大家有沒有寫 sparkling water ?

我好似沒有....

Errand

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-26 09:55 发表
大家有沒有寫 sparkling water ?

我好似沒有....

sparkling water写在哪里？我有点被问糊涂了

bt123123

就是沒有寫, 想問問大家

Errand

我整理一下笔记先，明天告诉你。

Errand

Steven，PartB的acquisition，你分析的是Hydrate Water和Fountain Springs么？
If so，你2个都分析了么？

Errand

可是万一他不考aquisition，考天灾人祸怎么办？

rogerze5046

PART B可以准备points 不用着急写答案

Wobat

ACQUISITION一定是要准备的，天灾人祸也要准备，呵呵

问大家一个比较傻的问题，上市公司的 the board 里面的成员全是shareholder 吗？
你们在分析key stakeholders 的时候有没有分析 board?

Wobat

原帖由 bt123123 于 2010-4-26 09:55 发表
大家有沒有寫 sparkling water ?

我好似沒有....

那两页左右的内容still water and sparkling water 没怎么用，所以我在想是不是用在PART B establish new operation 的时候用得到？

Wobat

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-25 22:07 发表
Butlers is better than ABL when ananlying economies of scale?  How to know this?

还没有人回答我这个问题，在分析stratigic capability 的时候，关于economies of scale, butlers is better than ABL because it has largest market share? everyone agrees with this?

bt123123

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-26 10:42 发表
Steven，PartB的acquisition，你分析的是Hydrate Water和Fountain Springs么？
If so，你2个都分析了么？

do you mean part B task 1 question a?
我有Hydrate Water和Fountain Springs. 同suggestion ans p7.26 1樣 用表例出來

bt123123

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-26 11:04 发表


那两页左右的内容still water and sparkling water 没怎么用，所以我在想是不是用在PART B establish new operation 的时候用得到？

part B 都好似用不到