Time to say good bye

up2u

至于鱼上钩后游动的方向，需要钓者的经验来控鱼的，需要控制鱼的游动方向，以后有空我整理些我钓鱼的视频你看下吧，控鱼时不见得发力都是一个方向一个大小的，根据情况需要在有的角度上给鱼更大压力，需要领鱼走你想要走的方向。同时，如果实在控制不了鱼的游动方向，你可以改变下船的位置的啊。

oonie

up2u 发表于 2013-7-3 20:49
至于鱼上钩后游动的方向，需要钓者的经验来控鱼的，需要控制鱼的游动方向，以后有空我整理些我钓鱼的视频你 ...

I will youtubing for a while. Move the boat is the final option.

kingfisher8828

oonie 发表于 2013-7-3 14:57
I do light offshore (up to 20km) a lot. Nothing can beat fiberglass of coz. The boat still banging ...

I have the same dilemma as most anglers, as to do both deep sea bait fishing and chasing surface schools, mixing with lures and baits for different occasion.

I agree with you both fibre and alu have their pros and cons, to me the former prevails.

I am still doubtful of my choice and after further thoughts I am now considering the Cruise Craft Outsider 575.

Like you I do seasonal Snapper fishing in Port Phillip Bay and later migrate to surface species like Sambo and Pike. Reason I change to larger size is because I'll be targeting the Kingies in Far East and West of Victoria.

At the end of the day I'll prioritise my preference and pick the boat which I think is more practical and serve my purpose of fishing.

Please keep us posted on your outings and how your toy performs.

Thanks for your input guys and Bon Fishing. Tight lines everyone.

oonie

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-6 07:11
I have the same dilemma as most anglers, as to do both deep sea bait fishing and chasing surface s ...

I was told Cruise Craft is one of the worst brand. The boat quite unstable at rest and riding. That's why you can see a lot of this brand on 2nd hand market.

What type, length, weight with trailer and budget of boat you after?

up2u

Cruise Craft 名声太大，估计也是市场上最贵的船。反面反应我是没听说过太多。

kingfisher8828

oonie 发表于 2013-7-6 08:49
I was told Cruise Craft is one of the worst brand. The boat quite unstable at rest and riding. Tha ...

Thanks for your input. I went to the Melbourne Boat Show weeks ago and quite impress with the boat structure for Cruise Craft.

My preference is a boat that is about 5.8 mtrs long with cuddy cabin and preferably with a walkaround structure.

Me too have a large crowd and to suit both in-shore and off-shore, unfortunately Cruise Craft Outsider 575 don't really have that walkaround luxury.

That's why I look into the Formosa Tomahawk 580 Centre Cabbin or similar. The walkaround concept fits into our picture of big crowd and casting lures freely and tussle with fish around the boat.

What do you think?

kingfisher8828

up2u 发表于 2013-7-6 13:00
Cruise Craft 名声太大，估计也是市场上最贵的船。反面反应我是没听说过太多。 ...

是的，价钱是比同类的品牌较贵，但我也没有太多的资料作比较与硏究。

请多多指教。

oonie

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-7 11:18
Thanks for your input. I went to the Melbourne Boat Show weeks ago and quite impress with the boat ...

Walkaround isn't really suitable for fishing in walking area. You can fight the fish but not to jigging or casting lure. Somehow It's dangerous if the handrail not tough and high enough. Did you jump in and walk? I will know what I'm talking about.

You can't go wrong with trophy cc 19 foot. I saw one in SA under $25,000. Too bad not many boats with 4 stroke in the market.

jack064

都是好东西，对于我这种追求稳和舒服的人来说，我觉得cat才是最稳最适合off shore，一个6米的CAT无敌了，

oonie

jack064 发表于 2013-7-7 23:05
都是好东西，对于我这种追求稳和舒服的人来说，我觉得cat才是最稳最适合off shore，一个6米的CAT无敌了， ...

5.5m Cat was my target. Too bad my ute can't handle it.

up2u

cat 一般更慢些，油耗更高些。

未必4冲就一定好，看个人追求。

Walkaround 设计的是方便，不是为了jigging casting，小船没人在那钓鱼的。CC最方便的是 long casting 比如 stickbait popper 类。但是CC真受罪啊，每次出去稍微有点点风，绝对从头发到脚指头全湿，而且是湿透。夏天出去还能忍受，冬天....

船上钓鱼的最好位置一般都是在后方，除了大些的船船头的 stick baiting类。

想 Cruise Craft 级别的可以看看whittley。

我个人建议要是不是买全新船，没必要盯着一个牌子看的。我个人最喜欢的hull其实是 haines hunter 的设计，虽然油耗会高一些，但是非常的稳。

up2u

补充一点，fighting 大鱼时，是有必要动动船的，不是非得要在船上转着圈 fighting 的，更容易丢鱼、断线、断杆的。

oonie

up2u 发表于 2013-7-8 15:52
补充一点，fighting 大鱼时，是有必要动动船的，不是非得要在船上转着圈 fighting 的，更容易丢鱼、断线、 ...

exactly. Hope I could fight a giant or two.

jack064

up2u 发表于 2013-7-8 15:50
cat 一般更慢些，油耗更高些。

未必4冲就一定好，看个人追求。

请问你觉得船后面一个200得达发动机和两个100的发动机，都有什么优缺点？

kingfisher8828

jack064 发表于 2013-7-9 09:44
请问你觉得船后面一个200得达发动机和两个100的发动机，都有什么优缺点？ ...

When a single engine breaks down you have no alternate but to call for rescue, however twin engines will be accounted for higher maintenance fees.

kingfisher8828

oonie 发表于 2013-7-7 20:52
Walkaround isn't really suitable for fishing in walking area. You can fight the fish but not to ji ...

Yes I agree the console side ways of a walkaround is not fishable but merely access to the front or maybe guiding a hooked fish to a better position when fighting. That's why I consider the Formosa Tomahawk centre cabbin earlier.

I review the Trophy product earlier and their boats seem nice however I notice its has got a shallow V design compare to other similar models, whcih does not fit my purpose.

Have you tested your new Quintrex CC yet? Please advise if it is indeed noiser than a fiber boat when anchored.

I am still reluctant to change to an alu boat from fiber   

jack064

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-9 12:52
When a single engine breaks down you have no alternate but to call for rescue, however twin engine ...

除了维护高些，那么说起来同马力俩发动机比较好？还有别的优点嘛

kingfisher8828

up2u 发表于 2013-7-8 15:50
cat 一般更慢些，油耗更高些。

未必4冲就一定好，看个人追求。

I have looked up to Whittley range and find that the Clearwater 1900 series is to my liking. It has a shorter cabin, which I need one, and purportedly means that a spacious stern of fishing area.

I too spoke with couple of boaters and most of them have very positive feedback on Haines Hunter especially on handling of the ware and when the boat is not on its way.

As advised earlier I am looking for a boat in the length of 5.8 meter and also not too heavy as in certain Victoria Port Phillip Bay boat ramps it can be very shallow when the tide ebb to lowest.

The only positive side of an alu boat to me is its light weight and easy handling and towing, not least fuel efficient due to its lighter hull compare to glass.

Thanks for your input and look forward to receive more. Cheers.

up2u

jack064 发表于 2013-7-9 09:44
请问你觉得船后面一个200得达发动机和两个100的发动机，都有什么优缺点？ ...

优点：offshore fishing 如果一个有问题，至少另外一个还能把你带回来。
缺点：俩个油耗会更高，维护费用更高。

up2u

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-9 13:52
I have looked up to Whittley range and find that the Clearwater 1900 series is to my liking. It ha ...

whittley 看 sl 系列。但是现在的全新船好象没小的了。
没预算，谁都难说买什么船的。

jack064

up2u 发表于 2013-7-9 14:14
优点：offshore fishing 如果一个有问题，至少另外一个还能把你带回来。
缺点：俩个油耗会更高，维护费用 ...

你经常外海，为什么不选CAT？普通的和CAT比有什么优缺点呢？

up2u

cat 选择性太少，一般速度会比较慢，同时拖的时候也费事。

oonie

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-9 13:52
I have looked up to Whittley range and find that the Clearwater 1900 series is to my liking. It ha ...

Qrintrex CC makes more noise on riding and anchoring. The riding is just ok. have to slow down to 10 - 15 knots to go toward to 1 m chop.

Stick with fiber if you can.

I reckon you watched You fish tv. You can hear the noise clearly while at quiet night from the bar crusher.

oonie

up2u 发表于 2013-7-9 14:14
优点：offshore fishing 如果一个有问题，至少另外一个还能把你带回来。
缺点：俩个油耗会更高，维护费用 ...

additional advise is that single motor is faster than twin motor in equal horsepower. twin motor = create more drag in the water.  

kingfisher8828

oonie 发表于 2013-7-9 20:10
Qrintrex CC makes more noise on riding and anchoring. The riding is just ok. have to slow down to  ...

Yeap been getting lots of feedback from friends who own alu boats and they advise the noise is a factor, I suppose this will affect chasing surface predators as also hard to get closer to bait fish specifically.

Let me know if you have any good recommendation for a fiber 5.8mtr cuddy cabin model. Cheers.  

kingfisher8828

up2u 发表于 2013-7-9 14:18
whittley 看 sl 系列。但是现在的全新船好象没小的了。
没预算，谁都难说买什么船的。 ...

I looked up the SL series but they all come in 6.2mtr at least and it is not in my category in length.

As advised earlier certain ramps in Victorian Port Philip Bay are shallow when the tide is low and I also have limited budget and space to store a boat.

Any other recomendations?  

kingfisher8828

Hi Up2u n Oonie, have you guys heard of Streaker? What do you think of the 5.85 Tournament series? Please advise.

oonie

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-10 13:07
Yeap been getting lots of feedback from friends who own alu boats and they advise the noise is a f ...

What's your budget? Did you think about to get a boat from NSW or SA? In Sydney, I can help you to have a look in person.

kingfisher8828

oonie 发表于 2013-7-10 14:52
What's your budget? Did you think about to get a boat from NSW or SA? In Sydney, I can help you to ...

Thanks Oonie for your offer. I am now comparing the Streaker 5.85 Tournament and Whittley Clearwater 1900. Will post on the English forum waiting on feedbacks.

It's for the long run so wouldn't mind to break the pocket up till $40k or so.

If I can get the boat I want I wouldn't mind to tow it back to Victoria myself. Cheers!

oonie

kingfisher8828 发表于 2013-7-11 23:54
Thanks Oonie for your offer. I am now comparing the Streaker 5.85 Tournament and Whittley Clearwat ...

You should aware of the true hull length is 5.5m for the clearwater. Don't be fooled by the model number "1900". The beam is just 2.2m.

Personally I would go for tournament  as the beam is 2.49m + 5.85m in length. fisherman layout. it's designed by fisherman. They know what fisherman need.

Clearwater is just a leisure boat to me.