关于父母在澳洲探亲照顾孩子的退税问题

lostkid

原帖由 tracychen_2000 于 2010-8-18 00:00 发表
关于PARENT TAX OFFSET ，纠结的点是在于父母是不是RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE。
You cannot claim a tax offset if your dependant did not reside in Australia or they were only visiting you during a holiday in  ...

能否给一下官方链接啊

lostkid

原帖由 tracychen_2000 于 2010-8-18 00:00 发表
关于PARENT TAX OFFSET ，纠结的点是在于父母是不是RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE。
You cannot claim a tax offset if your dependant did not reside in Australia or they were only visiting you during a holiday in  ...

根据我对ATO网站的解读，这些因素没有哪一个是决定性的。 他只是一个帮助你的指南。请看CALCULATOR的例证
Are you migrating and settling in Australia?
no
Are you an Australian returning to live?     
no
Have you stayed or do you intend to stay in Australia for six months or more?
yes
Have you stayed or do you intend to stay in a particular place continuously for six months or more?
yes
What is your main purpose for being in Australia?
Visiting friends or relatives
Where do you live while in Australia?
staying with family, friends
Do you have a spouse and / or dependent children?
yes
Where are your spouse and / or dependent children?
currently living with you
Where do you hold the majority of your assets?
overseas
Are you a member of any clubs, churches, community groups or organisations in Australia?
no


Determination of residency  Version 3.0.0
  
  Resident  
  
  You are an Australian resident for taxation purposes as your behaviour during the time you spend in Australia reflects a degree of continuity, routine or habit that is consistent with residing here.

This decision is based on the information you have provided. If your circumstances change, please use this tool again to assess whether your residency status has also changed.

As an Australian resident, you:

need to lodge annual income tax returns. The Australian income year commences on 1 July and ends on 30 June the following year.
need to declare worldwide income that you earn, subject to the operation of any international tax treaties and provisions dealing with specially defined temporary residents. That includes capital gains from the disposal of assets.
will be subject to income tax at resident rates that includes a tax-free threshold.
will be subject to Medicare levy. This does not mean you are automatically entitled to Medicare health benefits.

以上是我根据大多数人的情况作的例子，希望对大家有帮助

蓝马

ato是绝对的最双重标准的地方。它一方面用各种规则来让人交税，另一方面却想方设法不让人claim offset. 比如lz的问题，它既把超过6个月的visitor作为税务局民来收税，但是如果你要依据这个claim offset, 它又声称他们不是税务居民。

gogonorth

原帖由 蓝马 于 2010-8-18 13:27 发表
ato是绝对的最双重标准的地方。它一方面用各种规则来让人交税，另一方面却想方设法不让人claim offset. 比如lz的问题，它既把超过6个月的visitor作为税务局民来收税，但是如果你要依据这个claim offset, 它又声称他们不是 ...

Non tax resident 收税起点更高. 有澳洲收入还是作为TAX RESIDENT 好些。

小熊猫

原帖由 ronitrue 于 2010-8-18 00:20 发表
个人认为楼上几位大侠说的都很不错。

在这个case里父母只是在这里照看孩子一年，好像没有完全放弃中国移民澳洲的意思。一般情况下像这样子父母一般在中国都有房产和收入。很难说这是resident for tax purpose。别忘了 ...

中国收入换成澳币能有多少啊？一般都不会超过税局的额度吧。

hongyan1203

Although you do not reside in Australia under the ordinary meaning, you are still regarded as an Australian resident for taxation purposes as you actually have been in Australia for more than one half of the income year and you intend to take up residence in Australia.

hongyan1203

You provided the following information  
   
  Are you migrating and settling in Australia? No   
  Are you an Australian returning to live? No   
  Do you intend staying in Australia for six months or more? Yes   
  Have you stayed or intend to stay in a particular place continuously for six months or more? Yes   
  What is your main purpose for being in Australia? visiting friends or relatives   
  Where do you live while in Australia? staying with family, friends   
  Do you have a spouse and/or dependent children? Yes   
  Where do you hold the majority of your assets? overseas   
  Are you a member of any clubs, churches, community groups or organisations in Australia? No   
  Have you actually been in Australia either continuously or intermittently for 183 days or more in the year of income? Yes   
  Is your usual place of abode outside Australia? Yes   
  Do you intend to take up residence in Australia? Yes

cdfei

到底能不能报啊

patrickzhu

原帖由 cdfei 于 2010-8-18 14:11 发表
到底能不能报啊

报的人很多，不报的人也很多，呵呵。

warmtea

原帖由 tracychen_2000 于 2010-8-17 00:59 发表


赞同。澳大利亚的个人报税其实就是 SELF ASSESSMENT , 自己主动把收入情况报给税务局，就算是通过税务中介报税其实也是一样的，比如说：有些现金收入你如果坚持不报，会计师也不会怎么样，他们顶多留下个记号，曾经提醒过纳税 ...

最后的那句话真经典。 这个问题我也看过，ATO那个计算器上说父母必须是 Australian Resident才行。但爸妈在这住了可是整整一年呢，我想根据实际情况吧－如果家里有经济困难，确实很需要这几百或几千退回来的税钱救急，就报吧。如果是可有可无的话，那就别报了。等到那日父母移民过来，咱心安理得大拍胸脯地报。

tracychen_2000

原帖由 lostkid 于 2010-8-18 13:04 发表


能否给一下官方链接啊

如果是指关于PARENT TAX OFFSET 的那两句英文， http://calculators.ato.gov.au/sc ... _2010.XR4&go=ok  这个计算器链接打开的第1个页面就有这句话。

如果是指关于如何评断RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE ，http://www.ato.gov.au/individual ... =/content/36280.htm

chenhu2000

上面那个calculator里面，父母亲的taxable income应该填多少呢？需要考虑国内的收入吗？还是填0（因为澳州境内没有收入）？

[ 本帖最后由 chenhu2000 于 2010-8-18 23:04 编辑 ]

lostkid

原帖由 tracychen_2000 于 2010-8-18 22:35 发表


如果是指关于PARENT TAX OFFSET 的那两句英文， http://calculators.ato.gov.au/sc ... _2010.XR4&go=ok  这个计算器链接打开的第1个页面就有这句话。

如果是指关于如何评断RES ...

我想你说的是这段吧You cannot claim a tax offset if your dependant did not reside in Australia or they were only visiting you during a holiday in Australia - they must be a resident for tax purposes. You can claim a dependant tax offset only if you were an Australian resident for tax purposes. 我认为我以上的例证说明visiting you during a holiday仅仅是指短期的visiting而已。税法上的resident是很注重CONTINUITY这一因素的。不过我估计ATO官方对此可能也没有一个DEFINITE ANSWER.澳洲以案例为基础的税法真是太复杂了，不过很有趣，有时间真有必要检索一下税法的相关案例。

laoyouyu

同问。

noname

原帖由 patrickzhu 于 2010-8-16 15:05 发表


For the 2008-09 income year, you are not eligible for the parent or spouse’s parent tax offset if your taxable income is over $150,000.

From 1 July 2009 (2009-10 income year), instead of using you ...

ZHU版引用的是正解，我是报税过程中碰上了才知道的，想当然认为个人收入应该是$75K。我是把我LD的收入报了以后，最后出来这么一条，傻眼了，去年根本没有这个。

sun2012

还有这么多人纠结在这里，我在15楼已经说清楚了，而且各位专家也给出依据了，持676签证不能工作，也不是resident for tax purpose，不用再继续纠结了。

如果想赚几百块，而且愿意take risks （风险几率不大，但不等于没有），就报。
如果想心安，踏实，就不报。

散了吧。。。。

大地飞歌

如果被audit的话，一生都会被钉住么？

Buffalo_1973

搞不懂。。。。。

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atransformer

还有人说是钻空子？？ 太搞笑了