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[VIC] 毒蘑菇案 - 毒物专家出庭作证多少毒蘑菇会吃死人 [复制链接]

发表于 2025-5-23 16:42 |显示全部楼层
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Flyingfree 发表于 2025-5-23 14:43
是啊,你对这个国家不满意,可以用选票去改变,一张不行就一万张,一百万张,一直到有足够的人有意愿去改 ...

是啊,我当然会投票这用你说吗;你的背景不用介绍啊大家不一定有兴趣
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shortlanding 发表于 2025-5-23 14:34
那着纳税人的钱去花在正义上,花多少怎么花你我无从控制,这是正义吗

你在移民的时候就已经是接受了澳洲的价值观,也是接受了澳洲的法律体系,你现在说因为花了你交的钱去维持这个法律程序,既然这样,当然申请移民的时候在Australian Value这一栏直接点No就可以,你也就没有后面这么多事了。

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Flyingfree 发表于 2025-5-23 14:29
程序正义很重要,因为程序是一把标尺,虽然不一定在每个案件里都适用,但无疑对于一定时间长度一定区域内 ...


同意,支持澳洲的法律体系,保证公正公平最大化,其实也是间接保护我们个人的机会平等,公正公平。我们也是这个案例法体系的受益者,不然没必要背井离乡跑这里来

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睛天雨 发表于 2025-5-23 17:00
你在移民的时候就已经是接受了澳洲的价值观,也是接受了澳洲的法律体系,你现在说因为花了你交的钱去维持 ...

所以你买东西不存在协商的,改良革命对你来说大概是很难懂的概念,这样的认知就别建议别人了,毕竟自己没整明白

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shortlanding 发表于 2025-5-23 17:40
”XX 无价“ 口号听多了,腻了,假大空省省;后半段不知道你又在说什么,似乎与此贴无关 ...

假大空在中国听多了啥都是假大空了

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fanglei822 发表于 2025-5-23 15:08
脱水机中含有死帽菇残留物的几率超过 99%

这个案子已经没有悬念了,百分百guilty,四起谋杀指控全部会成立 ...

还有谋杀未遂—她老公
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Patterson's Facebook messages about in-laws and estranged husband Simon are read to jury

Patterson showed little emotion and stared blankly at the screen containing the messages with her online friends.

Crown prosecutor Jane Warren read the content of the texts to the court.

1. I said to him about 50 times yesterday, but I didn't want them to adjudicate (emoji) nobody bloody listens to me, at least I know they're a lost cause.

2. I wonder if they've got any capacity for self-reflection at all. I mean clearly the fact that Simon refuses to talk about personal issues in part stems from the behaviour of his parents and how they operate. According to them, they've never asked him what's going on with us, why I keep kicking him out, why his son hates him, etc. It's too awkward or uncomfortable or something. So that's his learned behaviour. Just don't talk about this s***.

3. Know nothing, but also more happened. Don rang me last night to say that he thought there was a solution to all this. If Simon and I get together and try to talk and pray together. (Emoji, emoji) And then he also said, Simon had indicated there was a solution to the financial issues if I withdraw this child support claim?!

4. My head nearly exploded and I was like, what, what? I'm sorry, what?? And Don goes, oh sorry, just ignore what I've said. I don't want to get involved. So anyway, I sent a group message to them all last night saying how Simon is behaving is unconscionable and asking me to withdraw the child support plan is wrong and disadvantages me and his children, and how dare you, etc. Don messaged to say that he and Gail don't want to get involved in the financial things. But just hope we will pray for the kids (Emoji) So I replied this morning saying, I understand it's uncomfortable and awkward for them, but I want to copy them into this stuff because Simon needs to be accountable for the decisions he is making that are hurting his children, and I would hope they care about their grandchildren enough to care about what Simon is doing. Don said they tried to talk to him, but he refused to talk about it, so they're staying out of it, but want us to pray together. I'm sick of this s***. I want nothing to do with them. I thought his parents would want him to do the right thing, but it seems their concern about not wanting to feel uncomfortable, and not wanting to get involved in their son's personal matters, are overriding that. So f*** them.

5. His parents sent me a message yesterday afternoon and Simon sent me one last night, but I've read neither and I don't think I will. I don't want to hear it. Simon's will just be horrible and be gaslighting and abusive and it will ruin my day and his parents will be more weasel words about not getting involved. So I think I'm going to just move on. I don't need anything from these people. Simon's parents say they don't want to take sides, but by the very actions they have. Daughter came to them, laying all the same complaints about her husband that I did about Simon. They would never say to her, ‘Oh well, we can't believe you until we hear (his) side’ right now it's your word against his’. No, they would just believe that if their daughter's husband just walked away and refused to support her kids, they would have things to say to him. But by refusing to hold Simon to account, they've made it clear his word means more than mine. So that speaks volumes, even if they claim they haven't taken sides. They've had Simon fatigue every night for three months and never once picked up the phone to me since the separation and asked if I'm okay and need help. So that tells me their choices. Simon wants to walk away from his responsibilities too, well that's his choice. Maybe it's easier if he's not involved in even paying their school fees. Means I can choose their school all by myself and don't have to refer to him. If he wants them to go to a private Christian school, then he can help pay for it. If he doesn't want me to help, sorry, if he doesn't want to help pay for it, then I don't have to send them there, do I? So maybe it just means I have even more freedom about my choices, blessing in disguise.

7. A message sent to erinerinerin from another participant: Will you still go to that church?

8. I haven't been to their church in months, kids go with Simon every second Sunday and came to one with me at Leongatha the other Sunday.

9. His mum was horrified I had claimed child support. Why isn't she horrified her son is such a deadbeat that I had no choice but to claim? That's the content of that.

Group chat messages revealed

A message sent under the username erinerinerin, which is alleged to be from Patterson, to some of her Facebook friends was read aloud to the court:

'Simon's dad contacted me this morning to say that he and Gail had tried to talk to Simon about the matters I raised and to get "his side" but he refused to talk about it other than to signal he disagreed with what I said beyond that he wont talk about it.

'So Don said they can’t adjudicate if they don't know both sides and Simon won't give his side.

'So he said all he can ask is that Simon and I get together to pray for the children. This family I swear to f***ing God.'

Message ended with multiple emojis with eyes looking upward.

The jury heard the message was timestamped 6/12/2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14737449/Erin-Patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-LIVE-updates.html

发表于 2025-5-24 03:52 |显示全部楼层
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就是她!还能是谁呢?

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碧姐 发表于 2025-5-24 03:52
就是她!还能是谁呢?

也是个狠人了,提前一年布局。

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shortlanding 发表于 2025-5-23 18:14
所以你买东西不存在协商的,改良革命对你来说大概是很难懂的概念,这样的认知就别建议别人了,毕竟自己没 ...

我们确实认知不同,你高兴就好。

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睛天雨 发表于 2025-5-24 13:39
也是个狠人了,提前一年布局。

太狠,想灭老公一家子,还要连累超市。
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发表于 2025-5-26 08:47 |显示全部楼层
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fanglei822 发表于 2025-5-23 18:23
假大空在中国听多了啥都是假大空了

余毒未尽,细细回味在这里还念念不忘?

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一群人真牛逼,你移民来澳洲就啥都不能质疑评论,否则你干嘛来呢,这套理论无敌了。

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shortlanding 发表于 2025-5-23 14:34
那着纳税人的钱去花在正义上,花多少怎么花你我无从控制,这是正义吗

这个涉及到一个人整个人生,肯定是越公平越好,如果这么严重的案件都能草率结案,那整个社会真就没什么指望了。

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shortlanding 发表于 2025-5-23 16:42
是啊,我当然会投票这用你说吗;你的背景不用介绍啊大家不一定有兴趣

不必理会那些动不动就让你离开的这种类id 。
就事论事的探讨。

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lippea 发表于 2025-5-26 10:01
这个涉及到一个人整个人生,肯定是越公平越好,如果这么严重的案件都能草率结案,那整个社会真就没什么指 ...

大大小小都是重要的事,直接财政黑洞拉满得了
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lippea 发表于 2025-5-26 10:03
不必理会那些动不动就让你离开的这种类id 。
就事论事的探讨。

他们就跟吃了纯要一样亢奋,有事没事往中国蹭

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