邻居建房为什么雨水管要排在我家的花园呢？好心烦

湖人

vita84 发表于 2015-10-28 17:52
我就是不想给他排，我不要钱。

他是可以走法律程序的。同时你提出合理的补偿。

HY子容

记得在走法律程序时把你以后准备建房的成本算进去

spottywot

闹心。  买房也要看, 不要买在周围都可以建duplex的地方,  烦人。

vita84

spottywot 发表于 2015-10-28 19:17
闹心。  买房也要看, 不要买在周围都可以建duplex的地方,  烦人。

对，自己还不能建

快乐每一天

告诉他们你明年要推到重盖，要重挖地基

otto

邻居盖房子前康嫂不是会给附近的人发信问有没有异议的吗？有人有异议的话康嫂不会批的吧？lz不用管他说什么法律程序，吓唬你的。你要是同意了，他才好跟康嫂申请呢吧。

vita84

otto 发表于 2015-10-28 19:50
邻居盖房子前康嫂不是会给附近的人发信问有没有异议的吗？有人有异议的话康嫂不会批的吧？lz不用管他说什么 ...

康搜发信要建房 我没意见，但没说要从我家走管子呀，告诉我我怎么会答应

vita84

快乐每一天 发表于 2015-10-28 19:40
告诉他们你明年要推到重盖，要重挖地基

那会怎么样呢，

stanleywau

如果你家有没有STORMWATER 的EASEMENT, 应该是不可以的. 走法律程序也没这个道理啊. 没道理他赚钱, 你亏钱的道理.

sushier

应该可以自己地里走，排到街上没问题，走你家不是必要的，不用管他，他走法律的成本更高，还不如自己地里走

vita84

stanleywau 发表于 2015-10-28 20:01
如果你家有没有STORMWATER 的EASEMENT, 应该是不可以的. 走法律程序也没这个道理啊. 没道理他赚钱, 你亏钱 ...

对呀，我老公还怕法官最后会判我们输，我也说大家都是个人，凭什么为了他的利益让我亏损

sushier

画个图看看

vita84

sushier 发表于 2015-10-28 20:09
画个图看看

什么图？

sushier

stanleywau 发表于 2015-10-28 17:01
如果你家有没有STORMWATER 的EASEMENT, 应该是不可以的. 走法律程序也没这个道理啊. 没道理他赚钱, 你亏钱 ...

这个说法靠谱，自己家没有康嫂的设施，谁也无权干涉

garysu

lz可以约council管理审批的职员谈谈，了解相关规定

shawn-oz

可能是公共stormwater的管道是在你家的另一边，而duplex的地势高，必须经过你家后院。我朋友盖房也必须将Stormwater管道通过后院邻居property，邻居要价8w以上，朋友没办法只能在自家后院做on-site 地下渗水系统，要花3~4w

vita84

garysu 发表于 2015-10-28 20:16
lz可以约council管理审批的职员谈谈，了解相关规定

看来只能这样了

vita84

shawn-oz 发表于 2015-10-28 20:17
可能是公共stormwater的管道是在你家的另一边，而duplex的地势高，必须经过你家后院。我朋友盖房也必须将St ...

那就是有其他选择的对吗，具体为什么我也不知道，他就是duplex后面房子地势低，不能排到上面的自己门前，就要从我家穿来旁边的路

Lefan

先去 Council问吧

shawn-oz

vita84 发表于 2015-10-28 20:20
那就是有其他选择的对吗，具体为什么我也不知道，他就是duplex后面房子地势低，不能排到上面的自己门前， ...

英文好像叫on-site-detention system，简称OSD。你跟council说你绝不卖easement就行了，法律不会强迫你的

HXS

邻居不能将雨水排到你家，这是犯法的。他必须将水排到街上去，或者经你同意经过你家往街上排。如果你不同意，他没有任何法律途径走，他只是欺负你是外国人而已。他不想花大钱做STORM WATER SYSTEM 而已。通常借邻居的EASY WAY 最少收费几万，所以我们家几年前建房也是发大钱搞STORM WATER SYSTEM而不是去跟邻居协商。不同COUNCIL的要求不一样，你的ENGINEER应该知道怎么做。

happysee

这就是为什么high side的房子贵的原因。你后院的邻居房子比街道低，雨水排不到街上所以要找你做easement，一般人都拒绝的，除非你很需要钱。

shawn-oz

这种事多了去了，OSD就是用来解决此类问题的。你邻居是想省钱省事罢了

TT

vita84 发表于 2015-10-28 17:52
我就是不想给他排，我不要钱。

你要不同意，什么法律也没用。他们想省钱走捷径，才要过别人家。

garysu

那么给多少钱可以接受呢？如何估算？

HXS

对了，是他建房子，他一定心中有数要怎么做，他只是想占你便宜，给你一点点钱但你不同意而吓唬你走法律程序。你就跟他说不愿意就行了，免得影响你以后卖房子。不用跟他扯。

母牛尾巴下一点

When can you refuse a Neighbour's Request for an Easement over your Property?

Often landowners are asked by neighbouring developers to agree to an easement over their property, with the "threat" of a resort to the courts if the request is not accepted.  Easements that have been commonly sought include for drainage, scaffolding, crane swing, and rights of right. Do you have to say yes?

Section 88K of the Conveyancing Act allows for imposition of easements by the courts where it can be shown that:

    the easement is reasonably necessary for the effective use or development of the land obtaining the benefit of the easement,
    the use of the land requesting the benefit of the easement is not inconsistent with public interest;
    the owner of the land to be burdened by the easement can be adequately compensated; and
    all reasonable attempts have been made by the developer to obtain the easement directly from the land owner and such attempts have not succeeded.

Whilst many landowners consider their "home to be their castle" and do not wish to grant any easements over their land, if you are the recipient of a request for such it is unwise to reject the request out of hand.  There are many cases where such easements have been imposed by the courts at some cost to the landowner.

In a recent case a landowner was offered various amounts for compensation (up to a maximum of $40,000.00) for an easement for pipes in an area that was along one boundary and predominantly in the building set back area. The landowner demanded that instead he should receive $250,000.00 in compensation. Ultimately the easement was found to comply with the various requirements of S.88K and was granted by the Court with only $21,500.00 compensation. To rub salt into his wounds, the court further held that because of the unreasonable refusal of the landowner to accept the request for the easement, and refusal to accept the various offers of compensation which the court found were more than adequate compensation, the landowner was also ordered to pay the costs of the developer in making the application to Court.

Whilst not all requests for easement will be successful at Court, if a developer makes an application to a landowner substantially in accordance with the provisions of S. 88K, then it is most likely to obtain the order, and landowners should negotiate reasonably in regard to any such requests. You should obtain an independent valuation of the proposed easement, and negotiate with that in mind.

Markwang181

可以提出合理的要求，但最终还是会让对方建房的。走法律程序只是时间长一点。但不能阻止建房。

vita84

shawn-oz 发表于 2015-10-28 20:26
这种事多了去了，OSD就是用来解决此类问题的。你邻居是想省钱省事罢了

谢谢你们了，

vita84

Markwang181 发表于 2015-10-28 20:30
可以提出合理的要求，但最终还是会让对方建房的。走法律程序只是时间长一点。但不能阻止建房。 ...

建房我同意的，即使自己不能建我也没要反对他建，即使这样会遮掉我些阳光，但我还是愿意的，反过来思考，你要是有一块大地想建duplex，邻居没有特殊原因就因为他们不能建而否定，那你也会很失望，但你建房把管道排来我家花园我肯定不愿意的，换你你能愿意吗？