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[行情讨论] 投资房你的路越来越窄了 [复制链接]

发表于 2015-6-7 15:42 |显示全部楼层
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都上电视了

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继续炒吧......10年后就和中国一样...内需不足...怕啥...炒房不如换RMB赚得多

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这种贴呵呵一下就行了。

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本来就不是宽路

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tony albert 把投资房也卖了,是不是有什么政策要出来呢?

发表于 2015-6-7 20:29 |显示全部楼层
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wcsydney2000 发表于 2015-6-7 20:08
tony albert 把投资房也卖了,是不是有什么政策要出来呢?

真的假的?难道真的要有动作了?

发表于 2015-6-7 20:34 |显示全部楼层
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八十年代初期,工党政府曾经废除过ng,导致房价下跌,但租金上扬,出租房难寻,几年后政府又不得不取消该政策。

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房价要跌

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大家继续讨论
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绿党提这个不是一天两天的了。

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政治家
啧啧啧
比男人的嘴还靠不住
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自由党有压力,不能老是用过去失败套到现在
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政策是有时效性地, 不可能一刀切。如果成为法律,16 或17 年吧。

发表于 2015-6-7 21:43 |显示全部楼层
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人到2050年 double,工资也会每年涨,房子越来越便宜? 短期的修正可能有,但是澳洲的刚需关系 无法改变,现在每年19万的移民 有多少是穷人?

地主 自然是越来越有钱

发表于 2015-6-8 12:03 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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Personally, despite the fact that I'll probably never own any home other than a caravan - and I'm well into middle-age - I sort of can't wait for the bubble to burst and end this orgy of greed that's changed Australians from a fairly easy-going bunch twenty-five years ago into a nation of mean-spirited, aggressive, highly-stressed paranoid jerks. When I came back from travelling in Asia I was stunned by the pervasive air of anger and aggression and general unfriendliness that fills Melbourne - and I can't imagine many places here have managed to evade the same malaise.

发表于 2015-6-8 12:05 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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如果看看很多鬼佬的怒火类似上面的评论,你会明白变化只是时间
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发表于 2015-6-8 12:07 |显示全部楼层
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Funny6 发表于 2015-6-8 12:05
如果看看很多鬼佬的怒火类似上面的评论,你会明白变化只是时间

鬼佬的祖宗也是二百年前待不下去欧洲,出来的。
看看现在欧洲...
不爽的可以移民火星。

发表于 2015-6-8 12:11 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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那就再看看这篇文章吧
Who's the real culprit behind soaring house prices? (Hint: it's not Chinese buyers)
OPINION
THE DRUM IAN VERRENDER
ABOUT 4 HOURS AGO
An aerial view of ocean front residents in the eastern suburbs of Sydney.
PHOTO What seems to have eluded our political masters is that market adage - the bigger the boom, the more painful the bust.
AAP: DEAN LEWINS
As easy as it is to point the finger at Chinese buyers amid rising tensions over housing affordability, the real culprit is right here at home, writes Ian Verrender.

For all the hullaballoo about the flood of Chinese cash into domestic real estate, there's one Aussie house that is seriously on the nose with our northern neighbours.

Actually, make that three.

For the past year or so, James Packer has been snubbed by Chinese punters, who for years were so enamoured with his Macau gambling dens that he eventually built three of them.

After plummeting 40 per cent last year, revenues for the year so far are down a further 37 per cent.

It's not just our James and his good mate Lawrence Ho suffering either. All the Macau casino operators have seen their earnings decimated, with the industry notching up 11 straight months of heavy declines, and now dropping to a mere $US3 billion a month.

The reason? The Chinese government has cracked down on corruption. Money laundering has come under the watchful gaze of Beijing.

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Perhaps it's a huge coincidence. But the casino crackdown seems to have coincided with the latest deluge of Chinese cash washing through property markets around the Pacific. If you can't launder your money through Macau, best to get it out of the country altogether.

Australia - and particularly Sydney and Melbourne - are favoured destinations. But Auckland is high on the list. So too is Vancouver. And in California, Chinese purchasers are swamping the San Francisco market.

Headlines around the Pacific are eerily similar. Take this one from The Diplomat from a few weeks back: "Chinese Buyers Fuel California Property Bubble."

In Vancouver, the average price for detached houses sits just under $2 million, after rising 173 per cent in the past decade.

The Globe and Mail tells the story of a couple who, having paid $C488,000 for a house in 2000, put it up for sale in March. Within two hours, they had an offer for $2.29 million and accepted $2.48 million to a mainland China buyer.

Australia recently signed a Free Trade Agreement with China and the final draft of that deal is due to be delivered within weeks.

While we've been regaled with promises of vast trading opportunities and fabulous profits, it will be interesting to see whether anyone among the vast army of advisors to the deal has bothered to ask this simple question: if it is illegal to take more than $US50,000 out of China, why are so many Chinese nationals capable of splurging millions of dollars on individual properties?

There is a simple answer to that: China doesn't enforce its rules.

The most common way to secrete cash out of China has been through "padding" of trading company invoices - a play on transfer pricing. The second most popular method was through Macau gambling dens.

When combined with the rorts surrounding Australia's Significant Investor Visa scheme - where a $5 million investment buys foreigners permanent residence - Australia was open for business when it came to real estate.

Despite all the evidence, all the media reports and the outcry within the community, the Significant Investor Visa loophole - where foreigners simply borrowed the $5 million back from an investment bank to buy real estate, using their $5 million investment as collateral - has only just been closed.

So far, the FIRB and the Treasurer, Joe Hockey, have found just one foreign investor - Xu Jiayin, one of China's richest individuals - who has breached foreign investment guidelines. His $39 million Sydney harbourside mansion, was forcibly sold recently amid a publicity blitz.

The buyer, however, was a wealthy Chinese national, Lola Wang Li; a woman who maintains she has no links with Xu.

The Chinese incursion into Australian residential real estate - and the unwillingness of Australian regulatory bodies to enforce the law - is part of a broader malaise that has seen regulators from the FIRB and the Department of Immigration through to the banking regulator, the Australian Prudential Regulatory Authority, and the Australian Tax Office reluctant to act.

As easy as it is to point the finger at Chinese buyers amid rising tensions over housing affordability, the real culprit is right here at home.

This is the result of a lack of oversight and enforcement from a federal bureaucracy denuded of staff for the best part of a decade and a federal government that appears unable or unwilling to identify a problem.

No one, it seems, has had any interest in reining in the runaway housing market, a point hammered home by Prime Minister Tony Abbott last week when he expressed a desire for prices to keep on rising, despite a blunt warning from new Treasury head John Fraser.

The following day, as he ramped up the notion into a political fight - Bill Shorten wants your house to decrease in value - Hockey attempted to argue that soaring house prices and affordability were separate issues.

What seems to have eluded our political masters is that market adage - the bigger the boom, the more painful the bust.

Then of course there is the constant moan from the business lobby; Australia is too costly, wages are too high. There is a reason for that. It's called real estate. For the past 15 years, rents have dictated wages. Not the other way around.

No matter how you measure it, Sydney and Melbourne real estate is in dangerous territory, fuelled by a heady mixture of cheap cash from foreign and domestic investors.

When it unravels, the pain will reverberate through the banking system, causing enormous damage to the real economy.

A major reason for the official inaction is that this is a bubble that has been deliberately contrived.

In 2012, when the Reserve Bank began its easing bias, it was determined to create a housing boom - so residential construction could fill the gap created by the decline in resource project construction.

But as investors, rather than owner occupiers, plunged in almost from day one, APRA and the RBA should have taken action. Instead, they were happy to watch the bubble inflate and now, rather than admit a mistake, reluctantly are playing catch-up.

A large portion of the investor action emanated from self-funded retirees, taking advantage of changes to superannuation rules that allowed them to gear up their super funds.

While as a nation we boast about the extent of our national savings pool, little attention has been devoted to the fact that a significant amount of that pool is now exposed.

As the Storm Financial collapse graphically illustrated, the capital losses on a property market bust will be magnified by debt. That could wipe out a significant number of super balances and put more pressure on the federal budget.

After months of procrastination, APRA finally has begun to enforce its own rules on high risk lending. But it may be too late.

In 2010, capital city property prices, particularly in Sydney, declined by 10 per cent in what was a relatively orderly retreat.

But the enormous gains of the past two years, which clearly has the new Treasury head concerned, will ensure the next decline will be anything but orderly.

发表于 2015-6-8 12:42 |显示全部楼层
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Green的提案只是对新的投资房取消NG,已有的投资房不变。如果这样的话,有投资房的就算捡着了。

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Funny6 发表于 2015-6-8 12:03
Personally, despite the fact that I'll probably never own any home other than a caravan - and I'm w ...

这段话应该注明出处?
不怕被分砸

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唐宋 发表于 2015-6-8 12:42
Green的提案只是对新的投资房取消NG,已有的投资房不变。如果这样的话,有投资房的就算捡着了。 ...

如果这样的话,肯定一堆人要买房了,房价必须涨
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绝对取消不了,得利的都是高薪人士包括所有的议员,让他们自己投票给自己找堵,不可能通过。

绿党一向喜欢按照风向提出民众想听的政策拉选票。

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自己想贷120万, 可银行告诉我房租只能算550 - 600. 想想看, 这的claim多少负扣税呀, 随着房价的上涨, 政府这方面的负担会越来越大, NG改革是迟早的事.

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房价能跌么?

发表于 2015-6-8 14:22 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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elight 发表于 2015-6-8 14:14
房价能跌么?

只要是用价格衡量的东西为什么不能降

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