父母移民，如担保人此前担保过配偶移民，但已经获批。现在可以重新担保父母两人吗？

lily07

担保父母移民，政策规定担保人最多只能担保两个人，也即父母两人。但如果此担保人两年多之前担保过配偶移民，且配偶已获得永居。请问担保人可以重新担保父母两人吗？

cheapers2003

担保期如果过了。现在可以担保两人。

annabanana

可以，父母和配偶是分开来算得。
配偶只可以担保2人。
担保了你自己的父母你就不能在担保其他人父母了。

lily07

annabanana 发表于 2012-9-16 16:28
可以，父母和配偶是分开来算得。
配偶只可以担保2人。
担保了你自己的父母你就不能在担保其他人父母了。

谢谢，由于父母和配偶是分开来算的，所以即使我已经担保了配偶，但是并不影响我继续担保我父母两人吧？　这样我就放心了

cheapers2003

lily07 发表于 2012-9-16 18:17
谢谢，由于父母和配偶是分开来算的，所以即使我已经担保了配偶，但是并不影响我继续担保我父母两人吧？　 ...

配偶担保期2年，如果过了担保期。就可以同时担保两人。否则，只能担保父母中一人。

Limitations on Assurances of Support

It is only possible for an individual to act as assurer for two adults at a time. There is no limit to the number of people a company can assure at once.

关于担保期：


An AoS lasts for:

10 years for contributory parent visa holders
two years for all other visa types where an AoS is needed.
The AoS period begins on:

the date of visa grant, if the applicant is in Australia
or
the date the visa holder arrives in Australia, if the applicant was outside Australia when the visa was granted.

cindyyanjie

一直以为配偶和父母是分开的呢

claire_syd

AOS明确写明是每个人同一时间只可以担保2 adults + unlimited children. 而且不论什么种类都会算在名额内。

记得配偶移民担保是2年，担保期已经过了就不会再占用这个名额了

lily07

claire_syd 发表于 2012-9-16 19:57
AOS明确写明是每个人同一时间只可以担保2 adults + unlimited children. 而且不论什么种类都会算在名额内。 ...

谢谢！今天没分了，明天补上:)
那我现在配偶担保期算是已经过了吧？

claire_syd

lily07 发表于 2012-9-16 22:27
谢谢！今天没分了，明天补上
那我现在担保期算是已经过了吧？

你自己算一下日期咯，start date= 如果当时配偶在境内，就是visa granted date, 如果人不在境内就是first arrive date after PR granted.

然后就纯按calendar加两年，呆不呆在境内都无所谓。

lily07

我配偶的PR签证是2个月前在境内刚下来的，也就是说visa granted date是2个月前。之前的两年多在澳洲境内是持的过桥签证，用于等待PR

lily07

那么也就是说，我现在才刚开始两年的sponsorship喽，要到两年后才能担保父母啊？

cheapers2003

lily07 发表于 2012-9-16 22:35
那么也就是说，我现在才刚开始两年的sponsorship喽，要到两年后才能担保父母啊？ ...

是呀，此外，你朋友或亲属也可以做担保人，但要满足要求。

CelinaChen

学习了！

左手写她

cheapers2003 发表于 2012-9-16 22:40
是呀，此外，你朋友或亲属也可以做担保人，但要满足要求。

呃 上次不是说配偶不要求AOS了

lily07

但是官网上说：As a sponsor, you agree to provide adequate accommodation and financial assistance as required to meet your partner's reasonable living needs. This assistance would cover the two years following the grant of their temporary Partner visa
是Temporary Visa，即配偶得PR之前，在两年等待期所持的那个签证。现在两年过后，PR下来了，应该sponsorship已经结束了吧？

cheapers2003

lily07 发表于 2012-9-16 22:35
那么也就是说，我现在才刚开始两年的sponsorship喽，要到两年后才能担保父母啊？ ...

partner visa啥时候交的？今年1月1日后没有aos了。如果你只是sponsorship，没有做partner的aos，就可以做父母sponsor和aos。当然你要满足aos的要求。

lily07

cheapers2003 发表于 2012-9-16 23:06
partner visa啥时候交的？今年1月1日后没有aos了。如果你只是sponsorship，没有做partner的aos，就可以做 ...

是两年半之前交的，所以3个月之前就批下来了。应该算是sponsorship已经结束了吧？另外好像没有AOS这个概念当时

cheapers2003

lily07 发表于 2012-9-16 23:10
是两年半之前交的，所以3个月之前就批下来了。应该算是sponsorship已经结束了吧？另外好像没有AOS这个概 ...

那你可以做父母aos了。

lily07

谢谢，分分明天送上:)

桐桐虎儿

lily07 发表于 2012-9-16 18:17
谢谢，由于父母和配偶是分开来算的，所以即使我已经担保了配偶，但是并不影响我继续担保我父母两人吧？　 ...

楼上正解！担保配偶和父母是不属于一类的！但如果你担保了父母10年内不能再做担保人了！

taow

annabanana 发表于 2012-9-16 16:28
可以，父母和配偶是分开来算得。
配偶只可以担保2人。
担保了你自己的父母你就不能在担保其他人父母了。

parents and partner are calculated seperately

taow

taow 发表于 2012-9-19 00:35
parents and partner are calculated seperately

Sponsor and assurer are different things. You can sponse both partner and parents at the same time. Normally assurance of support is not required for partner as obvious.

taow

Types of Assurance of Support

Mandatory Assurance of Support

Family stream

The mandatory AoS must be provided before a visa can be granted. A financial bond must be lodged by the assurer in cases where an AoS is mandatory. The mandatory AoS cannot be waived in any circumstances and applies to the following permanent visas:
•Parent
•Aged Parent
•Contributory Parent
•Contributory Aged Parent
•Aged Dependent Relative
•Remaining Relative.

While all applicants for the visa categories listed above require an AoS, a bond is only required for applicants aged 18 years and over.

Financial bonds

For permanent Contributory Parent (including Contributory Aged Parent) visa applicants, an AoS bond of AUD10 000 is required for the main applicant. This bond will be held for the 10-year AoS period. The AoS bond sum for any adult secondary applicant is AUD4000.

For permanent Parent (including Aged Parent), Aged Dependent Relative and Remaining Relative visa applicants, an AoS bond of AUD5000 is required for the main applicant. This bond will be held for two years. The AoS bond amount for any adult secondary applicant is AUD2000.
Note: An AUD10 000 financial bond is required for each application if the assurer is an organisation.

Discretionary Assurance of Support

In some other Family stream visas (including Child visas), a discretionary AoS may be requested where applicants are assessed as being at risk of becoming a charge on Australia's welfare system. This request is based on consideration of the education, skills, employment history, English language capacity and age of both the visa applicant and sponsor.

Under normal circumstances, an AoS bond is not required for visas with a discretionary AoS. Exceptions apply to cases where the AoS is provided by an organisation other than a state agency.
Note: From 1 January 2012, the discretionary Assurance of Support (AoS) requirement was removed from Partner visas.
- from immigration department website

samtheexpert

不是一回事情
AOS是要去CBA交押金的，分2年和10年2种的。
你所谓担保你老婆那种不交押金的