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在澳洲离个婚怎么这么麻烦呀 [复制链接]

发表于 2010-2-27 20:00 |显示全部楼层
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百利王发个这贴不是为了自己,而是想帮帮我的朋友,看看有没有知道相关的法律或有类似的经历可以给她点帮助。同时大家也学习学习。。。。

我的朋友去年开始因为老公暴力忍受不了,最终叫来了警察,警察给她的老公发了禁止令,不允许他靠近她和孩子。
澳洲的律师费实在是太贵了,她已经花了上万了,一点结果都没有,她说她的律师对这方面没有经验,我觉得她很笨,既然没有经验为什么还要让这位律师去做这件事。
她说:现在钱都交了,没有办法。
哪有这样的事?她跑来跟我说,我也没这方面的经验,所以看看足迹上有没有知道这方面的知识可以提供给她参考。哎,澳洲又多了一位单身妈妈了。。。。。还好儿子已尼上二年级了。。

以前她咨询过律师,律师说:在澳洲离婚的话,男方是得不到多少财产的,因为所有的财产对半分的话,男方还要支付小孩的抚养费到十八岁。
可事实真的来了,律师又不是这样的说法了。

我个人认为这样:
先分居,然后等男方等不急了再分财产。(因为现在男方提出来要财产二十八万,可房子卖掉也就二十八万到手)
再者就是跟男方和平解决。(但是目前这个好象不太可能,男方不让)

如果真的要打官司下去,真的要卖掉房子来打官司了,到头来淦翁得利的是律师。
真不知道该怎么办?????
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澳洲有一些免费的律师机构可以咨询的。你如果在VIC,可以找这个机构。http://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/
NSW也有相类似的,你网上找找。
如果你的朋友真的遭受暴力,这些律师通常会优先考虑你的案例。具体分割财产的问题,再进一步跟律师商量。
认识的人多了,我就越发喜欢狗了~~~

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原帖由 barry.wang1 于 2010-2-27 20:00 发表
百利王发个这贴不是为了自己,而是想帮帮我的朋友,看看有没有知道相关的法律或有类似的经历可以给她点帮助。同时大家也学习学习。。。。

我的朋友去年开始因为老公暴力忍受不了,最终叫来了警察,警察给她的老公 ...

你个人认为有什么用?
要看FMAILY COURT的ORDER。。。

退役斑竹 2007 年度奖章获得者 2009年度奖章获得者

发表于 2010-2-27 20:43 |显示全部楼层

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分财产没有免费律师服务.

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看来两夫妻买房的时候写自己一个人的名字很有用的。省了这么多烦恼。

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但凡走进FamilyCourt, 只有律师是赢家,虽然他什么也没做
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原帖由 vch801 于 2010-2-27 21:13 发表
但凡走进FamilyCourt, 只有律师是赢家,虽然他什么也没做


严重同意,还请离婚的夫妇还是自己私下解决这些问题为好。说不定到最后,把所有财产都赔进去了,还没有结果。为孩子留些物质吧。

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事实是这样,最后律师腰包鼓鼓

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换个律师吧,分财产需要时间,抱抱你的朋友

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换律师

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那就让她老公给她28万,房子给他不就OK啦?
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退役斑竹

发表于 2010-2-27 23:35 |显示全部楼层
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(以下只是偶的个人见解,不构成法律建议)

我曾在某法院旁听的一对华人夫妇的离婚官司,那个费劲啊,一个简单的问题,加上翻译的时间,要费一个小时,还不一定讲得清楚。当时好象夫妇各有代表律师,都是西人。

后来听一个华人律师说(悉尼华人世界其实很小),那个官司换了几个律师,律师费共达十几万澳币,人家做生意,有钱扣。

如果女方有时间精力加英语好,可以在前期代表自己,最后上庭的时候再花一千多请个西人大律师。

当事人可以随时换律师,并且保留投诉律师的权力。。。
自由的灵魂,懂得自由的珍贵。

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请问各位买房子写一个人的名字有什么不同吗

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不论是华人还是西人,离婚如果请律师的话,律师就是最大的赢家。我认识的一个朋友,男的,90年代离婚,离到最后倾家荡产,两套投资房,一套自住房全进律师腰包。他最后跑到乡下去住了。工作也丢了。建议LZ的朋友赶快收手不要再贴钱进去了。。要不辞工,没收入就可以上法庭不要钱。只交一百多块钱的开庭费。也可以享受免费的LEGAL AID。

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要都这么麻烦那没结婚的就别结婚了,同居就可以了。结了婚想离的也别离婚了,反正各过各的,互不干涉就是了。

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如果夫妻感情好,谁的名字都无所谓,可是万一哪天他或她变心了,私底下把房子就这样卖了,把现钱转走,你追也追不回来了。
谢谢楼上的回复。
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安慰lz

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原帖由 atm 于 2010-3-1 10:19 发表
安慰lz

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法律规定同居6个月以上的,不管财产在谁的名下,都是要对半分的!!!我记得是这样的!
还有有家暴问题,又有孩子,一般都是会同情女方的,我觉得还是你的律师不行!快换个好的吧!

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离婚打官司,
请准备3万律师费。
(paopaobing(13))
天下的好事总不能一人占着吧。

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IT is standard advice to separating couples: keep the lawyers out of it
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DIVORCE has a major financial impact, and it doesn't matter who paid for what when you separate assets.

Everything is considered part of the matrimonial pool: superannuation, your prized golf clubs, even cutlery inherited from your grandmother are up for grabs.

Latest data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows there are about 47,000 divorces granted each year in Australia, and that doesn't include break-ups among defacto couples. Between a third and a half of all marriages end in divorce.

Getting the divorce itself costs very little. There are divorce kits available free at the courts. They are relatively easy to complete so you may not even need a lawyer.

What is expensive is going to court to resolve parenting and property settlement disputes.

If your split can't be resolved by agreement, don't expect the legal fees to be less than $20,000 each. The average cost is probably about $30,000 to $40,000 each.

Obviously, the best way to keep costs down is to avoid long, drawn-out court battles.

Commercial law firm Kelly & Co partner and family law specialist David Jenkin says hostility between parties results in funds being swallowed up in lengthy and avoidable court action.

"Court action should be viewed as the last resort for parties going through a divorce," he says.

"It can be a very expensive and drawn-out process, particularly if the former partners are bitter. It's not just the financial cost of undertaking court action, but the time and emotional impost on the individuals themselves.

"The more you can take the emotion out of it and negotiate openly and objectively, the better the outcome. Given the personal nature of the issue, that's understandably difficult to do and therefore requires an independent third party to help facilitate mediation," Jenkin says.

Jenkin, who has nearly 30 years' experience as a lawyer and a mediator in divorce matters, says 5-10 per cent of financial settlement claims go to court for final determination.

Identify assets


One of the initial steps is to identify the asset pool and calculate a value for each asset. This involves determining what assets each partner has individually as well as what the couple has collectively. Jenkin says there may be a sense of urgency in securing assets and therefore seeking orders to stop the disposal of a party's assets.

He says the two financial issues most misunderstood by former partners is the treatment of superannuation and business assets.

"The usual rule is that super splitting applies unless a party can convince the court of a need to access funds to retain a property for the benefit of the children," Jenkin says. "When determining the value of business assets it's important to look beyond the balance sheet and this can involve investigating complex ownership structures." Olivia Maragna of Aspire Retire Financial Services in Brisbane says more people are planning their divorce before telling their partner and moving out of the matrimonial home.

"Interestingly, women file for divorce more often than men and are more likely to divorce than die while married," she says.

For older divorcees there is something called a Widow Allowance, which is an allowance you can receive if you divorce later in life. If you are widowed, divorced or separated later in life and have no recent work experience, this provides extra income.

Payment ranges from $456 a fortnight where you have no children to about $500 a fortnight with children. You can only claim Widow Allowance if you were born on or before July 1, 1955 and you must satisfy Centrelink's income and asset tests.

Starting again

AMP financial planner Tony Rigby says rebuilding your life financially after a divorce means going back to basics.

"Put the past behind you and start with a proper defined budget ensuring you are realistic with assumptions on expenses and what your likely income will be."

"A visit and assessment meeting with Centrelink may seem daunting, but there may be entitlements such as childcare benefit, childcare tax rebate and the parenting payment.

Reviewing current debt and restructuring existing and new debt is paramount.

"With interest rate risks and only one income to service debt, it's important to shop around to ensure what you have is what you can afford," he says.

Rigby says the most important thing during any divorce is to get good legal advice from someone experienced in family law, as your property settlement will have a big impact on your financial future. "Also seek advice from a financial planner before the property settlement, not after.

"Most people leave it until it's too late. Your lawyer and financial planner should be drawn into the equation at the same time."

There are many issues to consider such as child support and whether you're entitled to a proportion of your former partner's superannuation. The number of divorces granted in Australia has been decreasing each year since reaching a peak in 2001.

The statistics

National data shows 47,209 divorces were granted in 2008, compared with 47,963 in 2007, a fall of 1.6 per cent.

The median length of marriage to separation was 8.8 years in 2008 but over the past two decades, the median length of marriage to separation and divorce has steadily increased.

For women, the period of life remaining divorced has risen from 18 to 24 years yet for men it is only 17 years. The median age at divorce has been increasing steadily for both men and women during the past 20 years.

In 2008, this trend continued for women with median age increasing by 0.1 years to 41.4, while for men the median age decreased by 0.1 years to 44.1.

The Family Law Court has considerable discretion when determining the respective property entitlements of parties to a marriage or relationship.

This means it is impossible to predict with absolute accuracy what the outcome will be.

In any matter, there will be a range of possible outcomes that will be considered to be just and equitable and one particular judge's view may differ from that of another.
http://www.news.com.au/money/mon ... rfmd9-1225843542671

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离婚比结婚麻烦100倍。
生孩子比做爱难1000倍
养孩子比生孩子难10000倍。

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节哀顺变。。。

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原帖由 maoyu 于 2010-3-24 11:47 发表
离婚比结婚麻烦100倍。
生孩子比做爱难1000倍
养孩子比生孩子难10000倍。


结论就是,千万别结。。
die with memories
not dreams

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原帖由 luyangcy 于 2010-3-24 11:52 发表


结论就是,千万别结。。


其实所有麻烦都怪一时迷信”日后再说“这句话
半醉半醒日复日,花开花落年复年
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原帖由 barry.wang1 于 2010-2-27 20:53 发表
看来两夫妻买房的时候写自己一个人的名字很有用的。省了这么多烦恼。

没区别, 你可以卖房子但对方也可申请法庭令, 冻结你的帐号。

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天啊,律师费那么贵啊,十几万。。。

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离婚千万不要听律师的,他们会鼓励女方去打官司,会说你能分多少多少,很多人都去打了,可是很麻烦,结果所有私人财产最后都给律师了。能私下和解最好,不要白白把钱给律师挣了。

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离婚比结婚麻烦100倍。
生孩子比做爱难1000倍
养孩子比生孩子难10000倍。﹣﹣﹣﹣誰結誰知道,知道了還去結。。。。。

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