职场新人求前辈给点经验，如何Say No

pepsi890718

求大神帮忙解答 T T

职场新人一枚，会计领干了三年，年初刚换工作，现在在一家公司做Assistant Accountant，才上班两个月。

现在snr和顶头上司总是把AR做不完的事情pass给我做，让我觉得实在很郁闷。上个月是说AR因为xxx忙不过来，这个月是说AR因为yyy忙不过来。

本身这个职位刚开始，reporting的东西我都还在学，FBT也在赶时间做，其实没有太多闲余时间，可是看snr的态度，似乎是想以后AR随时都可以吧某个特定的job丢给我。snr可能是发现我的态度并不是那么配合，于是直接把这个事情pass给manager了，于是现在变成manager跟我说，你去帮AR做这个Data Entry。

虽然是一个三四个小时可以做完的事情，可是我很担心，刚入职就接受这种job是不是意味着以后谁要是有什么破事不愿意干都可以以忙碌为借口丢给我...我并不是很想给别人留下这种印象。再来我是真的不想做AR...之前好几份offer都是因为需要support AR AP被我拒绝掉。本来就是想着专门找了一份purely AA的工作。

今天我和manager说，我压力很大太忙了，有ABCD马上就要due了，你可不可以给我点建议，让我可以更好的time management, 然后manager的结论是，那你暂时先别做reporting和TAX了，专心帮AR把事情做完....我都快无语了...肿么这样啊，以前的公司从来都是大家take ownership of their own work，不会随便pass给别人这种事情的。

求有经验的前辈帮忙解答。我该怎么处理这件事情？是忍还是拒绝这个extra duty吗？如果拒绝，是不是该再等几个月？而且怎样nice又坚定地表达自己的立场呢？真心是很不情愿take这种事情。

本人情商真的很低，实在是对于这种事情很苦闷，求大神帮忙解答...

谢谢

andorians

这个, AA本来不就是所有财务的事都要去帮忙的吗

你这么有态度, 这个工作估计试用期一过就要你走的吧。

圈圈卷卷

aa本来就是打杂的 同学 你这点都不懂 以后career路会很难走

消毒

羡慕，我闲的找活干，太闲了。头儿让我relax

pepsi890718

圈圈卷卷 发表于 2015-4-17 00:10
aa本来就是打杂的 同学 你这点都不懂 以后career路会很难走

Thank you for your reply.

Is that the case? Sorry I am just a bit confuse. I am learning as well.
In my previous work places managers have a strong attitude in passing unfinished work to other team member. team members are encouraged to take ownership of their own work, as everyone is busy in the team and it is a bit unfair to pass someone's unfinished work to another team member, if there is such situation the team always share the workload.

And during the interview I made it very clear that I don't want any involvement in AP or AR and the manager was very much agree with it. I know, things happen.

Sure I am taking the work at the moment and I understand I am new and do not have the position to say no. And how team work works. But what if people keep passing unfinished work to me, and as time pass by they take it for granted? I guess I don't want to give people the impression. And for sure I don't want to cause any delay in my own work.

Is there anything I can do to softly deliver this message without causing any issues?

Thank you :)

pepsi890718

andorians 发表于 2015-4-16 23:49
这个, AA本来不就是所有财务的事都要去帮忙的吗

你这么有态度, 这个工作估计试用期一过就要你走的吧。 ...

Thanks for the reply,

I guess I am not trying to cause problems or incorporate. I sure will help and I sure want to have a good performance. I just don't prefer people to take my support for granted and starting to treat the extra duties as it suppose to be part of my job and get dumped to me every month as it supposed to be this way.
I think it's normal to feel unfair if you have to stay late to help her out but she gets to leave earlier than 5.  

I really need some advise on how to help her out without sending the wrong message that I will always do this for her.

Thank you so much. As you mentioned I would love to stay after probation.

andorians

pepsi890718 发表于 2015-4-17 11:19
Thanks for the reply,

I guess I am not trying to cause problems or incorporate. I sure will help ...

试用期还是千万不要耍态度，低调点比较好。不一顶当天必须要完成，做不完明天接着做也行，但态度要好一点。

圈圈卷卷

pepsi890718 发表于 2015-4-17 11:00
Thank you for your reply.

Is that the case? Sorry I am just a bit confuse. I am learning as well ...

Many "assistant Accountants" are actually doing AP/AR jobs or even some of the payroll work. To me the purpose of having an assistant accounant is to assist financial accountants (ie your manager) with meeting their deadlines. After all your manager is the one who will most likely provide good reference when you are ready for your next role. Being an assistant accountant is not your ultimate carrer goal and you should see it as a stepping stone to move into a more specialized area. You need to be able to see the big picture and make the most of your current role. Hope this helps.

pepsi890718

圈圈卷卷 发表于 2015-4-17 11:27
Many "assistant Accountants" are actually doing AP/AR jobs or even some of the payroll work. To me ...

Thank you very much for your reply.
It is very much helpful.

pepsi890718

andorians 发表于 2015-4-17 11:26
试用期还是千万不要耍态度，低调点比较好。不一顶当天必须要完成，做不完明天接着做也行，但态度要好一点 ...

Thanks lot :)

dedge

试用期还是低调吧

其实很多公司是故意的，把大量工作交给试用期的员工来考验这个人是否能承受压力，转正之后可能根本就没那么多活让你做。

Say No的方法很多，不过不适用于试用期。

haohaoxiao

jerry79

给你做你就作，不过要把所需要的时间列出来给领导看，他批准后你就作

pepsi890718

jerry79 发表于 2015-4-17 12:59
给你做你就作，不过要把所需要的时间列出来给领导看，他批准后你就作

Thanks, I have told my direct manager. And he is very happy for me to support AR...
I guess I really don't have any choice now.

Thanks for your advice though.

lovedog

试用期就多做点吧，就当作机会熟悉公司业务吧。等过了试用期在看机会慢慢拒绝垃圾活。经验之谈哦，我试用期郁闷了6个月，现在扬眉吐气了。他们请你估计就打算好让你帮别人的，你经理自然不觉得把别人做不完的活给你有任何问题。

yong2010

pepsi890718 发表于 2015-4-17 13:05
Thanks, I have told my direct manager. And he is very happy for me to support AR...
I guess I real ...

Team work is very important , I think

wdmznzd

又是中文又是英文，真不专业。

pepsi890718

lovedog 发表于 2015-4-17 13:26
试用期就多做点吧，就当作机会熟悉公司业务吧。等过了试用期在看机会慢慢拒绝垃圾活。经验之谈哦，我试用期 ...

好吧...我最近几天郁闷了好久最后也没办法了。也许这家公司的氛围就是喜欢把活push来push去，自己没搞清楚状态之前也真的无解....

pepsi890718

wdmznzd 发表于 2015-4-17 13:40
又是中文又是英文，真不专业。

在公司回帖子的时候没办法打中文.....所以才混着来。

zliybyc1

不知道你们的业务有多复杂
FBT什么的不应该很快么
别拿谱了 一个好的团队就是要大家互相帮助互相配合的
我们FC拿着200k+的年薪 AR不在不还是要backupAR的活
你还是新人 多帮助别人吧 以后有回报的时候

jongmi

也不是说AA一定要做那些AR，AP的东西，很多完全就是办公室政治，等lz资格老了慢慢玩吧

pepsi890718

zliybyc1 发表于 2015-4-17 22:07
不知道你们的业务有多复杂
FBT什么的不应该很快么
别拿谱了 一个好的团队就是要大家互相帮助互相配合的

我并没有摆谱，最终工作依旧完成了。Backup是OK的，谁都有leave或者不适的时候。我郁闷是因为：AR说自己很忙，于是通过层层周转将事情丢给我，最终达到自己10点上班四点半下班，而因为帮她干活导致我自己的事情无法完成，于是加班到很晚。昨天Friday我加班到7点才把事情做完，可是她四点不到就撤了。团队合作是必须的，我也很愿意在team成员leave的时候support，我只是寻求下经验，作为新人该如何应对这种事情。

zliybyc1

和AR先聊聊吧

消毒

楼主你公司还能上足迹回帖，不忙啊

doudouzhu

pepsi890718 发表于 2015-4-18 11:29
我并没有摆谱，最终工作依旧完成了。Backup是OK的，谁都有leave或者不适的时候。我郁闷是因为：AR说自己 ...

Lz这种事 我有经验。最主要是你要会说，现阶段主要解决的是：千万不要加班 不要让加班成为你的routine。

很多人认为刚开始的新人应该加班熟悉公司业务，但是我觉得加班不应该超过半个小时，在你刚开始这段时间可以小加一点，但是半个小时为线，特别还是你要帮其他人完成工作的情况下。

小建议，按照上下班时间工作，老板要你帮忙的时候，态度好，乐意帮忙，但是告诉他你那份工作的deadline，你的concern，你可能meet不了deadline，要extention, 让他跟上级要。要多了，他自己也不好意思吧。然后 在建议 鼓动AR AP跟经理说在要一个temp 帮助他们渡过难关，如果他们有困难meet他们的deadline的话。不明白的话，多想想就明白了。

千万不要让加班成为常态。加油 楼主！

忽然一悠

就是看咱们是亚洲人好欺负，我上班好几个公司，看见鬼佬过试用期都没啥压力，没见过这样对鬼佬的，鬼佬遇到这种情况肯定不答应

YumeYuki

如果你不缺工作的offer，就换工作呗，反正试用期，如何任何地方都要做你帮AR的话，还不如选个钱多的，或者高大上的公司做。

adf1000

我做aa的时候经理让干什么干什么从无任何怨言 后来公司内部restructure经理极力推荐我 给我promote到更高的位置

pepsi890718

lovedog 发表于 2015-4-17 13:26
试用期就多做点吧，就当作机会熟悉公司业务吧。等过了试用期在看机会慢慢拒绝垃圾活。经验之谈哦，我试用期 ...

Hi, May I ask how did you managed to push back after your probation finished?

Snr assigned the task to me AGAIN!! and my manager made the decision straight away for me

netman

职场新人要先学会捡垃圾，就当锻炼心性吧，等自己水平资历上来了再去学say NO吧。