关于RDO(rostered day off)

kim_gh

如果公司合同说每周工作40个小时，付38个小时的工资，剩余的2个小时（每天0.4小时）累计到RDO，那如果有一天员工请病假，这天这个员工还会积累0.4小时的RDO吗？今天看的modern awards和这个网站：http://www.workplaceinfo.com.au/ ... tered-days-off-rdos上都说需要付7.6小时的sick leave,剩余的0.4小时还会累计成RDO,就算这个员工今天没上班。。觉得完全不能理解啊，这样雇主不是很吃亏。。付7.6小时的病假很正常，但不来上班还要免费给0.4个小时的RDO就觉得不可思议了。。。有哪位payroll大神能澄清下吗？万分感谢呐

PS:上面的链接有点问题，我把相关的段落截下来了：

cqflq212

no offense, rostered day off, not roastered

kim_gh

cqflq212 发表于 2014-3-6 11:08
no offense, rostered day off, not roastered

谢谢提醒，昨晚写的太急了。。

lm8628

顶个好问题

scarlett_vivi

平时一周40小时，付38小时。
病假一天，工作四天32小时，付30小时，8小时或7.6小时病假。

2小时rdo都是自己的。

kim_gh

scarlett_vivi 发表于 2014-3-9 19:53
平时一周40小时，付38小时。
病假一天，工作四天32小时，付30小时，8小时或7.6小时病假。

谢谢回复：)，不过为什么工作四天只付30小时？不是30.4吗？(每天7.6 ordinary, 0.4RDO)

另外关于病假，我以前的理解是请病假当天扣8小时病假，0.4小时RDO照样积，这样看上去合理多了，等于在拿0.4小时的病假换0.4小时的RDO，但上面那个workplace hr的网站上说现在最常见的mistake就是employer在employee请病假当天扣8小时病假，正确的做法应该是只扣7.6病假，0.4RDO照样给。。为什么啊

ccrrff

kim_gh 发表于 2014-3-9 23:28
谢谢回复：)，不过为什么工作四天只付30小时？不是30.4吗？(每天7.6 ordinary, 0.4RDO)

另外关于病假， ...

我们一周37.5小时工作
我现在是4个星期休一天RDO那种   
但是病假事假都是扣8小时
但是那些干两周9天的好像也是扣8小时一天   
看了楼主的分析    有点糊涂了哦？

scarlett_vivi

kim_gh 发表于 2014-3-9 23:28
谢谢回复：)，不过为什么工作四天只付30小时？不是30.4吗？(每天7.6 ordinary, 0.4RDO)

另外关于病假， ...

按照实际工作算，不考虑每天多少。每个星期在实际工作的时间上减掉2个小时做为RDO accrual 就行。

kim_gh

scarlett_vivi 发表于 2014-3-10 12:28
按照实际工作算，不考虑每天多少。每个星期在实际工作的时间上减掉2个小时做为RDO accrual 就行。 ...

谢谢大侠的回复 这和我原来的理解完全不同。。按照建筑业的awards，RDO是按每天0.4来积累的，而且1楼贴的那段也说“time in excess of 7.6 hours is "saved" for the RDO".难道是我理解有误？能麻烦你帮我看下下面这个modern awards的段落吗？灰常感谢！！


不好意思，图片有点小，我把文字贴上来：
33. Ordinary hours of work

33.1 Except as provided in clause 34—Shiftwork,the ordinary working hours will be 38 per week,worked between 7.00 am and 6.00 pm,Monday to Friday,in accordance with the following procedure.

(a) Hours of work and rostered days off

(i) The ordinary working hours will be worked in a 20 day four week cycle,Monday to Friday inclusive,with eight hours worked for each of 19 days and with 0.4 of an hour on each of those days accruing towards the twentieth day,which will be taken as a paid day off. The twentieth day of that cycle will be known as the rostered day off (RDO),and will be taken as outlined in clauses 33.1(a)(i) to 33.1(a)(iii). Payment on such a rostered day off will include accrued entitlement to the allowances prescribed in clauses 25.2 to 25.7. A rostered day off will be taken on the fourth Monday in each four week cycle,except where it falls on a public holiday,in which case the next working day will be taken instead.

scarlett_vivi

kim_gh 发表于 2014-3-10 14:40
谢谢大侠的回复 这和我原来的理解完全不同。。按照建筑业的awards，RDO是按每天0.4来积累的，而且 ...

我也是建筑业的 :)  大虾算不上

大致意思就是一周上40小时班，付38小时工资，剩下的2小时RDO存起来。
RDO有专门的日子的。比如周一是RDO, 这星期只要工作4天32小时，付30小时和8小时RDO, 2小时继续存。

你的理解是每天0.4，我们操作简化，每周2小时，是一样的.

scarlett_vivi

scarlett_vivi 发表于 2014-3-10 15:12
我也是建筑业的 :)  大虾算不上

大致意思就是一周上40小时班，付38小时工资，剩下的2小时RDO存起来。

从来没被这么加过分。太激动了。不用客气的，我们是讨论问题

kim_gh

scarlett_vivi 发表于 2014-3-10 14:12
我也是建筑业的 :)  大虾算不上

大致意思就是一周上40小时班，付38小时工资，剩下的2小时RDO存起来。

同行业拥抱一个！！

如果只是平常的工作周的话我们两个理解是一样的，2小时每周。

不过碰上哪周周一是RDO的话，我的理解是前四周的19天（到第四周的周四为止）每天累计了0.4RDO，所以总共累计了19×0.4=7.6小时的RDO. 如果RDO在下周一，当天雇主扣7.6RDO，然后上周五累计的0.4+这周剩余四天的1.6加起来又是2小时，如此循环。。所以take RDO的当天扣7.6小时的RDO而且也不会累计0.4RDO。 我现在看下来RDO的目的是要averaging the working hours to 38 hours per week even when the employee is working overtime everyday for the first 19days. 所以如果哪天员工请病假不来，他们还是有0.4小时的RDO，不然就没法达到averaging working hours的目的了。。

omg。。我觉得我讲的快吐了(paopaobing(58)) 。。payroll果然不是我的菜

kim_gh

scarlett_vivi 发表于 2014-3-10 14:29
从来没被这么加过分。太激动了。不用客气的，我们是讨论问题

哈哈，别激动别激动，秋天穿草鞋太冷了，赶紧换布鞋吧

scarlett_vivi

kim_gh 发表于 2014-3-10 15:40
同行业拥抱一个！！

如果只是平常的工作周的话我们两个理解是一样的，2小时每周。

Absences from duty under RDO system

Where an employee’s ordinary hours in a week are greater or less than 38 hours and the employee’s pay is averaged to avoid fluctuating wage payments, the following is to apply:
the employee will accrue a credit for each day ordinary hours are worked in excess of the daily average (7.6 hours)
the employee will not accrue a credit for the day of absence, other than on annual leave, long service leave, public holidays, paid personal/carer’s leave, workers compensation, paid compassionate leave, paid training leave, or jury service
an employee absent for part of a day, other than on paid leave, accrues a proportion of the credit for the day, based on the proportion of the working day that the employee was in attendance.

Deducting credits

A common problem is calculating the amount of credit to be deducted from an employee’s annual leave or personal/carer’s leave balance when absent from work during an RDO work cycle.

An RDO system provides for the working of an average of 38 hours each week, usually over a 4-week cycle. This means that a ‘day’ is 7.6 hours and the additional time is not paid that week, but banked, going towards payment for the RDO so that the employee is paid the RDO as if worked. Because the time in excess of 7.6 hours is ‘saved’ for the RDO (and not considered part of the day worked) an employee who is absent due to illness or injury receives 7.6 hours pay for the paid annual or personal/carer’s leave absence and the additional ordinary hours of work time away are credited for the RDO.

An employee absent for one day would have 7.6 hours (not the additional hours) deducted from their leave balance.

刚刚查到。你说的对。
看样子少付了员工很多工资啊